Angry Ben Book warning... it's been a while, Ye Bee Warned!! Lol
I have been fighting this fight since the begining of my time in this hobby. I recieved a barrel of chips described as "mint" and they were 5 times worse than that... some were flat out banana chips! I absolutely HATE that almost no one ever mentions the flatness of the chips.
I say this in all seriousness, over 70% of all clay chips that have ever come to my house have had some degree of warpage issue but almost never mentioned! I spend hours flattening chips then people say "well it should be mentioned that you have flattened the chips!" So that should be mentioned but not the fact that you are selling warped chips to begin with.
The forum defended the seller of that awful barrel that I purchased on
eBay because it was a vendor here. I was told "that is just the way it is and accept it!"
Recently I saw a set sell that I had played and knew they were warped and no mention of them in the listing of being "Mint!"
Take 10 seconds, grab any clay barrel, sit it on a hardwood or granite counter top and tap the top edge, if they move AT ALL, I mean even in the slightest... you have warped chips in that barrel. The newer, the lighter and the brighter the chips are, the more prevalent it seems to be!
While typing this I picked up the 43mm Grand casino chips. The secondary 25k is supposed to be brand new... it's warped to sh*t
Change the order and hold them up to the light.. what do you know the sec $1k is warped
It is almost impossible to show multiple gaps of light in a single picture from a barrel. Grab a chip set it on a flat surface and tap the top... most clay chips are warped even leaded
THC, but typically less than these cheaper chips.
I recently bought a 944 chip set of FOC
BCC, typically
BCC doesn't have these issues but every single chip in the set was warped! It took me almost 2 months of flattening to get them close, every single day and absolutely no mention of the fact that some chips were difficult to fit 19 chips per barrel, yeah that warped!
I didn't get any level woth the face pictures but look at the height differences across this set. The chips are all near mint, no wear but look at the tops of the barrels, especially obvious from the $5s to the $25s... look at the shadows and height differences, they should all be the same.
I did snap this lovely shot
And BCCs are much more dense than Paulson. It takes multiple heating sessions for longer times to get them to move at all! It was terrible!! Are you telling me the seller had "no clue" these were warped. You could blow on them and they would wobble all over the place, literally made me sick and wanted to blow up on that guy, seri2 months to get them close flattening chips for 6 - 8 hours every damn day!
It's taboo to talk about so shhh!! You will get PM hate mail. This was bought from another vendor here
For a premium price and again no mention of any warpage.
Got in a fight with a CCGT member on
eBay, valued member runs some Colorado branch of the club. He said both sides shown which was a lie... same pic twice and wasn't even the same chip. Had all the proof, went to Spragg about it and nothing done. Asshole even tried to tell me it was worth more because warped chips are rare!
Warped so bad the inlay was popping out!
Not to mention the chip was dog Sh*t! Compared to the picture shown.
Told me he didn't have time to take pictures of every chip... even though that is exactly how the listing read. Told me everyone does that, they use generic scans. He offered a refund if I sent the chip back. Why should I take the time to package, my money to ship, when you are being totally fraudulent. So what get my $10 back so you can force this on some other non knowing poor soul? Told him enjoy my $10 and kept the chip... still have it today!
Think
AS NAGB are exempt?
Absolutely not!
Don't worry folks.. in a couple days this will get pushed back under the rug until someone brings it up again.
It is mostly fixable if you know what you are doing and are careful. Most get inpatient and want faster ways and wind up squishing chips (makes an indentation around the ring of the chip)
But some of us have learned the art of fixing these poor souls. Before
After (left two barrels)
Btw with time they start warping again, same chips today about 5 months later
The chips I flattened are on the left still and top 3 of the middle barrel. That took about 3 weeks to flatten 25 chips. If I did it again maybe they would stay a little flatter, this is an extreme example but shows well in pics. It can be done but extremely labor intensive and time consuming!
Keep up the fight of full transparency on chips. I absolutely think sharing the video and NOT calling out the seller shows a lot of class
@mcguiles .. I would be pissed too! But know this happens all the time and is not discussed. 10 people will now likely send me a PM about flattening chips, it happens every time I talk about it. There is definitely not enough money to be made/damage risk to take that on for others. My oven would be running for hours every day!
BTW expect the same response from every single seller "they weren't like that when I had them... must have happened in shipping!" Ask me how I know
Edit** one more just for Poops and Giggles... how about brand spanking new out the box from Paulson RPCs
Literally brand new 43mm IHCs . They ain't cheap either!
