Effect of running it twice? (1 Viewer)

[CrazyEddie]

Are you there to scrape out your +2bb/100 hands or are you there to play poker ?

The fundamental nature of poker is to transfer money in the long run from the mathematically illiterate to the mathematically skilled, and to do so by disguising consistent long-run losses using dramatic, intermittent short-run gains. It's insidious, entertaining, and a boon to mankind.

 

[utgtrash]

ok maybe dumb question but the two run outs do affect each other, at least in a kk vs aa situation right? it’s hard for kk to suck out twice because usually it needs one of two kings, which they wouldn’t have both times? as in with number of outs, it’s harder for kk to win both than win once, when you calculate possible outcomes for both run outs? Therefore kk should only run once?

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

ok maybe dumb question but the two run outs do affect each other, at least in a kk vs aa situation right? it’s hard for kk to suck out twice because usually it needs one of two kings, which they wouldn’t have both times? as in with number of outs, it’s harder for kk to win both than win once, when you calculate possible outcomes for both run outs? Therefore kk should only run once?

no, because in a scenario where KK wins the first board it already has more than realized its equity since KK already gets half the pot now. It makes sense that it has to be "harder" now for KK to also win the second board since it's already running 30% over equity.

This is also explained in the video.

 

[utgtrash]

no, because in a scenario where KK wins the first board it already has more than realized its equity since KK already gets half the pot now. It makes sense that it has to be "harder" now for KK to also win the second board since it's already running 30% over equity.

This is also explained in the video.

ok that makes sense duh, thank you!

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

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This is purely a matter of preference / aesthetics, but I would never want to run it twice (or more). Running it twice is a way to reduce variance, to simultaneously minimize both your losses and gains. IMHO that's all part of bankroll management, and you should do your bankroll management away from the table. Once you're sitting, you should (again, this is a matter of preference) revel in the huge swings inherent in the game. Are you there to scrape out your +2bb/100 hands or are you there to play poker ?

This sounds gambley, and fishy, and exploitable, but the point is that it's not. Running it once or twice or ten times doesn't change you from a thoughtful, practiced, competent player into a sucker or vice versa. It's only a matter of variance, and variance can (and should be) managed away from the table but indulged at the table.

If nothing else, being fake-gambley at the table will encourage the other players to be gambley as well, in ways that do effect their EV, in your favor.

If the outcome of a 500bb all in (10 buyins total) doesn’t register on your care-o-meter, you probably aren’t going to care enough to grind it out either.

 

[mipevi]

Running it twice takes more time, which reduces my hourly.