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[Coyote]

"The problem with today's youth begins at the moment when you 're no longer part of them"
Salvador Dali.

 

[BGinGA]

"The problem with today's youth begins at the moment when you 're no longer part of them"
Salvador Dali.

^^ Pure gold, with a large sprinkling of truth.

 

[Anthony Martino]

I'm still serving out my 30 day ban on Facebook. It's a hard world out there for those with a dark sense of humor

 

[pltrgyst]

Blah blah blah and you remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. We get it. You’re the greatest generation.

That was my father's generation. I was born on the leading edge of the boomer gen, in late 1946, after the war. We remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Bailey (thank you, Aaron Sorkin).

No, you don't get what I meant. My point is that at any given time, the oldest generation will be the one with the most experience and the most accomplishments.. That is the natural order of things.

The Internet thing particularly grates, for example. I was one of the earliest developers of the ARPAnet and the transition to the Internet, in the late 70s and early 80s. When everyone on the network was listed in a printed directory about a quarter of an inch thick (I still have a copy.) We were using the Internet from day one, while your xennials were no more than six years old.

We were developing and playing text games (Adventure, Collossal Cave, etc.) and early video games (Pong, Space Invaders, etc.) in the 70s, not the 1980s.

The iPhone came out in 2007. Who do you think were the earliest adopters, in some large part because we could afford them? Older, more experienced tech workers. Not to mention the fact that some of us had the equivalent of cell phones from the 1960s, with hand-held amateur radio transceivers connecting to local "repeaters" and thence to others' telephones or their own transceivers. Hell, we used that technology to create systems to call home from our base camps in Vietnam from 1968 on.

The natural order of things is that older generations make the most basic -- and therefor essential -- discoveries, while later generations add on layer upon layer of scaled-up applications, and forget how to perform the more basic operations. This is considered progress. It's never-ending technical advancement along an infinite timeline...

 

[Poker Zombie]

I have yet to find any age bracket that claimed to be the best generation, unless they were the oldest generation. It was about the respect, and the accumulated wisdom that the elders in society had amassed. Each generation knew their time would come when they were the ones with the experience to claim the title.

Then the Millennials came along. Their "Trophies for everyone" attitude lead them to believing that they were in fact, the best. Afterall, they're not keeping score. They have great achievements like putting on both shoes, while having manicured beards. Everything else has just been built on the shoulders of the giants that went before them.

Until they do something truly impressive, like defeating a massive war machine while in a depression or landing on the moon (though those have already been done by previous generations, so the blueprint has been drawn up for them), they are living in their own, sad, delusion.

Well, not all Millennials are living the delusion. I've met many that claim to be a different generation, just because they also know Millennials suck.

 

[davin]

Don’t forget Oregon trail game

 

[davin]

Millennials suck.

She does a good job

 

[Poker Zombie]

She does a good job

If in fact she is a she :wideeyed:

 

[davin]

If in fact she is a she :wideeyed:

You may swing that way but I don’t

 

[Poker Zombie]

You may swing that way but I don’t

I understood Millennials were not supposed to ask.

In a way, I guess that generation has made some improvements

 

[Highli99]

Your response was much more thoughtful than my comment. I appreciate it. The chain of shoulders goes back so far so sometimes I think it's best not to allocate credit. I have to imagine even at the time the internet was developed, there were senior mathematicians and statisticians from older generations contributing their knowledge to the process. The same way that Google probably has some very influential boomers even though the average age of their developers is in the 20s. Who gets credit 20 years from now?

That was my father's generation.

This was a bit of hyperbole on my part. It's a riff on guessing someone's age but intentionally guessing 20 years older than they really are just to get a rise. Sometimes I ask my CEO what it was like during "the war" (implied WWII). He finds this less humorous than I do. I only do it because the response rate is very high.

My point is that at any given time, the oldest generation will be the one with the most experience and the most accomplishments..

I agree with this, except for Gen X. Greatness has already skipped them. It's not their fault though because their parents were working too hard to properly raise them. In all seriousness, Gen X is just as talented as generations before or after. However, they are smaller. This will doom them to being less talked about relative to Boomers or Millennials.

Hell, we used that technology to create systems to call home from our base camps in Vietnam from 1968 on.

That's amazing.

Their "Trophies for everyone" attitude

You're inspiring me to give out participation trophies at my next tournament. I predict this will be a hit.

Until they do something truly impressive, like defeating a massive war machine while in a depression or landing on the moon

I don't think participation in war should be the measure of success. The avoidance of war seems to be a higher goal and achievement for future generations to aspire. On landing on the moon - I'm with you 100%. However, that moon landing was more about geopolitical competition and the resulting internal cooperation it inspired. I suspect great things are coming in this area if we all work together.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I don't think participation in war should be the measure of success.

Defeating the Axis powers' massive war machine wasn't just participation in the war. A lot of it took place back home. The war was just the catalyst.

• Women, for the first time took jobs outside of the home. Many were non-traditional jobs. They paved the way for equal rights.
• Industrial production tripled in just 3 years. They built an economy, despite sitting in the midst of a depression.
• Recycling became a thing for the Average American.
• Discrimination and segregation in the Military was banned. This eroded ethnic and religious barriers as well. This increased minority participation in the war, but it also provided GI bills for minorities after the war. This generation was the first to allow minorities to receive a higher education. If you are a minority Millennial with a degree - thank WWII.

I suspect great things are coming in this area if we all work together.

Right now, I find that to be a very big "if".

 

[pltrgyst]

>> Hell, we used that technology to create systems to call home from our base camps in Vietnam from 1968 on.
> That's amazing.

BTW, as a historical footnote that may be of interest to someone (no, I have no idea who!):

All those radio/telephone calls to families back home were routed through two particular ham radio stations: one in Arizona, owned and run by Senator Barry Goldwater, K7UGA and MARS AFC6BG; and another in Washington state, whose particulars I've forgotten.

 

[Anthony Martino]

But my generation had this

**DROPS MIC**

 

[davin]

ICE ICE BABY

 

[WedgeRock]

I agree with this, except for Gen X. Greatness has already skipped them. It's not their fault though because their parents were working too hard to properly raise them.

If you believe this, then which generation really failed?

 

[davin]

If you really believe this, then which generation really failed?

no one failed everyones a winner, end of subject carry on pops

 

[BGinGA]

Hammer Time!!

 

[WedgeRock]

Hammer Time!!

Doon do do doont

 

[Anthony Martino]

Hammer Time!!

 

[WedgeRock]

no one failed everyones a winner, end of subject carry on pops

Get off my lawn.