Hand from my first livestream (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Martino]

I laid down KK last night to a guy so new to poker, he didnt know how to riffle cards. He dealt by picking up the cards off the table one at a time. It was brutal to watch. Board came out AJX, I bet and get one caller....this guy. River is another A, he tanks for a minute then bets in to me. No way this fucking noob doesnt have an A.

I fold face up. He shows J5. FML

If you had called he'd have shown you the Ace, there's zero doubt in my mind

 

[GetUrShineBox]

So the results for those who missed it are I eventually found the fold button. The board was rainbow AK57T and she check-called pot sized bets of 200 and 600 OOP on the flop and turn.

I expect if she has a set or top two she's betting or raising in that spot, so I have to put her on a QJT type rundown that's trying to get there, she had been a calling station all night, and hadn't shown a ton of aggression.

So when she jams the broadway making river I still think given how the hand played out I have to find the fold in that spot. She wound up turning over KT75 for FOUR PAIR lol

And honestly, I think in her mind she thought she was betting for value and had the best hand

Suckah Folder!!!

 

[grebe]

I laid down KK last night to a guy so new to poker, he didnt know how to riffle cards. He dealt by picking up the cards off the table one at a time. It was brutal to watch. Board came out AJX, I bet and get one caller....this guy. River is another A, he tanks for a minute then bets in to me. No way this fucking noob doesnt have an A.

I fold face up. He shows J5. FML

Let me be very clear.....this is a good thing in the long run. That kid now thinks he is a poker gift sent down from Mount Olympus. A new fish has been created. You are all welcome.

 

[joeyshin]

Let me be very clear.....this is a good thing in the long run. That kid now thinks he is a poker gift sent down from Mount Olympus. A new fish has been created. You are all welcome.

you say, "Nice play, you got me to fold the better hand" ....don't tap the bowl...

 

[grebe]

you say, "Nice play, you got me to fold the better hand" ....don't tap the bowl...

He was proud. I told him great job.

 

[CraigT78]

You need a proprietary BFP mold for your custom chips.

Brute Force Poker.

Nah, I'm Fake Action.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

you say, "Nice play, you got me to fold the better hand" ....don't tap the bowl...

Absolutely. "Ah, way to keep me honest!" after they call me down with J-4o.


Then I stop playing and get the money back, obviously.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Absolutely. "Ah, way to keep me honest!" after they call me down with J-4o.


Then I stop playing and get the money back, obviously.

#FreeGarret

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

I think AKQJ

Boy were we wrong

She wound up turning over KT75 for FOUR PAIR lol

So three pair is a Canadian full house
Four pair
Whoooooweeee how’s that play

 

[joeyshin]

Boy were we wrong


So three pair is a Canadian full house
Four pair
Whoooooweeee how’s that play

Yeah but I wouldn’t have folded for that slight chance that I’m wrong. Lol

 

[Anthony Martino]

Yeah but I wouldn’t have folded for that slight chance that I’m wrong. Lol

In the long run I think calling in this spot is a losing proposition. Unless you are playing against Patty specifically

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

Yeah but I wouldn’t have folded for that slight chance that I’m wrong. Lol

I said the same thing
AKQJ
Adds up
Call down with two pair
Jam on broadway
When you don’t boat up jam
That’s some new generation GTO there
But totally reps the straight
Couldn’t have played it wrong better

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

So in your player opinion
Is calling a big bet with three pairs hoping to boat up a good call there if / when the board pairs it either kills the action or gives them Kings full ???

 

[joeyshin]

In the long run I think calling in this spot is a losing proposition. Unless you are playing against Patty specifically

Well I’m a losing player so it aligns with my style. Lol

 

[joeyshin]

Well I’m a losing player so it aligns with my style. Lol

I just want to hear “nice call” once in a while. That’s worth more than the pot to me. Lol

 

[Anthony Martino]

My analysis video is now up which will point out some previous hands played with Patty that led me to find the fold button on that last fateful hand

 

[surfik]

You need to master so called "fuck you call"....

As always pleasure to see you in action.

 

[Anthony Martino]

You need to master so called "fuck you call"....

As always pleasure to see you in action.

Patty had called off her stack earlier multiway chasing a gutshot, so me believing she'd do the same chasing broadway here doesn't seem to be much of a stretch

 

[surfik]

Patty had called off her stack earlier multiway chasing a gutshot, so me believing she'd do the same chasing broadway here doesn't seem to be much of a stretch

I know it's stings but you made correct fold... I belive.
If I were in your shoes I propobly would have sweat for 10 minutes and call. But as always perception is everything. People very often make correct reads if they just observers not participating in action.

 

[Anthony Martino]

I know it's stings but you made correct fold... I belive.
If I were in your shoes I propobly would have sweat for 10 minutes and call. But as always perception is everything. People very often make correct reads if they just observers not participating in action.

I think calling there the vast majority of the time will be incorrect. The few times you run into an odd line like Patty took won't make up for the times your opponents show you the nuts

 

[JustinInMN]

I think calling there the vast majority of the time will be incorrect. The few times you run into an odd line like Patty took won't make up for the times your opponents show you the nuts

I agree. I would assume QJTx all day. I would never assume a loose-stationey player that suddenly shoves would ever be bluffing if I haven't seen it to that point. Even if I know you wouldn't assume many QJTx hands are worth raising early, I can see a lose player doing this with KQJT, QJT9, or any of the QJTx with a pair hands. (even though you have a partial block on QQJT specifically.)

Now that I have seen the "bluff" (thought I agree with your assessment, this was a misguided value bet in villain's mind) I would account for that and adjust by calling with the second nuts a little more often. But in this moment, having never seen a bluff/overvalued bet, I can't fault folding the effective second nuts here.

Just pair the board next time.

 

[Anthony Martino]

I agree. I would assume QJTx all day. I would never assume a loose-stationey player that suddenly shoves would ever be bluffing if I haven't seen it to that point. Even if I know you wouldn't assume many QJTx hands are worth raising early, I can see a lose player doing this with KQJT, QJT9, or any of the QJTx with a pair hands. (even though you have a partial block on QQJT specifically.)

Now that I have seen the "bluff" (thought I agree with your assessment, this was a misguided value bet in villain's mind) I would account for that and adjust by calling with the second nuts a little more often. But in this moment, having never seen a bluff/overvalued bet, I can't fault folding the effective second nuts here.

Just pair the board next time.

Or put a 9 on the river or something lol

 

[grebe]

Compare at 20:40 in your video to this:

at 17:01 in this video from Fidor on tells:

 

[grebe]

You say you think she was betting for value at 22:50. I totally agree with you.

 

[Marius L]

You need to keep getting into more games with Patty. Lol. Some seriously horrendous plays from her in that video.

 

[joeyshin]

My analysis video is now up which will point out some previous hands played with Patty that led me to find the fold button on that last fateful hand

that sip of water would make me snap call..no joke......i used to take a drink everytime i tried to bluff

 

[JustinInMN]

that sip of water would make me snap call..no joke......i used to take a drink everytime i tried to bluff

Usually that tell means the opposite actually. I would interpret a casual sip as a sign of usual business. Someone that is too scared to reach for the glass would make me more suspicious.

But I am just speaking about unknowns. Obviously different actions can mean different things to different people.

 

[grebe]

@joeyshin and @JustinInMN did either of you watch that Fedor video I posted? The part about drinking? curious, as you both have exact opposite views.

 

[JustinInMN]

@joeyshin and @JustinInMN did either of you watch that Fedor video I posted? The part about drinking? curious, as you both have exact opposite views.

Work filter, will try and make a poitn of it later

 

[Anthony Martino]

@joeyshin and @JustinInMN did either of you watch that Fedor video I posted? The part about drinking? curious, as you both have exact opposite views.

I mean, sometimes the super fast shove is a bluff, and sometimes it's an inexperienced player that can't contain their excitement