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Has any noticed the new Hoard Alerts in the chipguide?

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Just to show a few…






Phot credit to chipguide ;)
 
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Disclaimer: I do not collect singles. But, putting on my tinfoil hat, couldn't information like that be used to change market dynamics? What if someone wanted to say that there is a hoard, depress prices on the singles because people mistakenly think there are a lot of those chips available, then someone could snatch up all of the cheaper chips to create the hoard they lied about?

Also, photo credit to chipguide. "Hoard" attributed to chipguide. "For the Horde" not really WarCraft but attributed to chipguide. What else due I need to remember to say "courtesy of/attribute to chipguide"?
 
I mean wtf else are you supposed to do with obsolete poker chips/collectibles in general??
Pretend you only have one or two and sell them for top dollar every couple years. :rolleyes:


And this seems like an opportune time for me to repost my apocryphal “Scene from the Chip Convention”:

Scene: Annual CGGTCCCGTC chip convention, at an “off-strip” casino.

Me: I’m interested in this (non-mint, dirty) New China Club $5. Can you do anything on price?

Old Fotzer: what price is it marked?

Me: $60.

OF: Let me see what the Chip Rack price is...

Me: *winces*

OF (After paging thru ChipRack for five minutes): It says here that in mint condition, this is a [meaningless code] rarity chip, worth $45-50.

Me: This chip is not mint.

OF: It almost stands on edge.

Me:

OF: But I’m offering convention pricing, discounting 20% off market price, so $40.

Me: *facepalm* You’re discounting off the top of the range listed in a book printed a year or so ago that isn’t based on any observable, quantifiable metrics but is basically subjective make-believe pricing that is the opinion of the guide’s author?

OF:

Me:

OF: Yes. This guide cost me $100.

Me:

OF: Make me an offer.

Me: Do you have more than one?

OF: No—that’s an incredibly rare chip, only a few dozen exist.

Me [who owns racks of them]: According to whom?

OF and me, in unison: The Chip Rack guide.

Me: *blinks*

Me: All due respect, and I don’t want to insult you, but I can offer you a price that is based on what this chip actually sells for in the real market, like eBay or at Spinettis. Examples in better condition have sold for $5-12 recently. I’m not sure I can offer more than that, given those are actual market prices. I can offer $10.

OF: No.

Me: What is your best price?

OF: $38.

Me:

OF: But you don’t have to pay shipping.

Me: :banghead:

Me: Have a good convention....

[Next booth, rinse and repeat.]

Later in the day...

OF [scowling and pointing at me to his wife; muttering]: That guy lowballs. Offered me $10 for this NCC $5.

OF’s Wife: But you have dozens of them, and you paid $25 for the whole lot! The house is FULL of boxes of chips! We don’t even have room for the grandkids!

OF: Hey buddy...I could do $35.

[/Scene]
 
I’m trying to wrap my head around this.
Is the “alert” there to warn people that more of these exist than they might think?
As far as I know, Chipguide has never listed scarcity or pricing for chips, so the hoard alert seems like a strange addition.

Is this just kind of a spiteful thing they’re adding just because it seems so strange, to a bunch of singles collectors? But again, to what end?

This is very strange.
 
Is this just kind of a spiteful thing they’re adding just because it seems so strange, to a bunch of singles collectors? But again, to what end?

This is very strange.
I think they’re ONLY doing it to PCFers’ collections. The hoards of chips trickled out by chipboard/CCCTTCCCBCTTC singles collectors and dealers are sacrosanct. Their insane pricing MUST be protected, afterall. Motorized Rascal scooters and RVs don’t pay for themselves. :rolleyes:
 
Pretend you only have one or two and sell them for top dollar every couple years. :rolleyes:


And this seems like an opportune time for me to repost my apocryphal “Scene from the Chip Convention”:

Scene: Annual CGGTCCCGTC chip convention, at an “off-strip” casino.

Me: I’m interested in this (non-mint, dirty) New China Club $5. Can you do anything on price?

Old Fotzer: what price is it marked?

Me: $60.

OF: Let me see what the Chip Rack price is...

Me: *winces*

OF (After paging thru ChipRack for five minutes): It says here that in mint condition, this is a [meaningless code] rarity chip, worth $45-50.

Me: This chip is not mint.

OF: It almost stands on edge.

Me:

OF: But I’m offering convention pricing, discounting 20% off market price, so $40.

Me: *facepalm* You’re discounting off the top of the range listed in a book printed a year or so ago that isn’t based on any observable, quantifiable metrics but is basically subjective make-believe pricing that is the opinion of the guide’s author?

OF:

Me:

OF: Yes. This guide cost me $100.

Me:

OF: Make me an offer.

Me: Do you have more than one?

OF: No—that’s an incredibly rare chip, only a few dozen exist.

Me [who owns racks of them]: According to whom?

OF and me, in unison: The Chip Rack guide.

Me: *blinks*

Me: All due respect, and I don’t want to insult you, but I can offer you a price that is based on what this chip actually sells for in the real market, like eBay or at Spinettis. Examples in better condition have sold for $5-12 recently. I’m not sure I can offer more than that, given those are actual market prices. I can offer $10.

OF: No.

Me: What is your best price?

OF: $38.

Me:

OF: But you don’t have to pay shipping.

Me: :banghead:

Me: Have a good convention....

[Next booth, rinse and repeat.]

Later in the day...

OF [scowling and pointing at me to his wife; muttering]: That guy lowballs. Offered me $10 for this NCC $5.

OF’s Wife: But you have dozens of them, and you paid $25 for the whole lot! The house is FULL of boxes of chips! We don’t even have room for the grandkids!

OF: Hey buddy...I could do $35.

[/Scene]
Bravo!
 
I guarantee if you ask for documentation of what constitutes a "Hoard Alert", you will get nothing but crickets.

Given the nature of my Rat Rod set, there are all sorts of singles that I'm using "in home poker games". Like:

25 hotel nevada a.jpg50 comstock.jpg100 scrapbook.jpg500 depot nv.jpg2500 sierra sid.jpg

They're not going to "hoard alert" a single one of these chips.

Does "hoard alert" trigger by somebody acquiring singles from the open market and amassing a barrel? Or rack? I have 38 of these, acquired a few at a time, is that a hoard?

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All the hoard alerts are, to anybody objective, is:

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I’ve whore’d myself for Crystal Parks. I will whore’d myself again for more hundos.

Go ahead with your alerts at Chip Guide, fuckos.
 
And why are the Sands Chips marked, in private hands not for sale. My hotel Nevada are in private hands and they are not for sale either but not marked as such.
Agreed. Same. In fact the likely "private hands" attempted to come after at least one of my sets and was told to pound sand.
 
remainder of those marked with hoard alert as far as I can tell:

N5203​
N2743​
N7744​
N2642​
N4920​
N5482​

N7800​
N9050​
N9053​
N9056​
N2341​
D0238​

D0239​
NE001.3​
NE001.2​
NE005.1​
NE020.1​
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pictures courtesy of the museum of gaming history's chipguide
 
I'd love to know who the person posting these updates is and why they are doing it...
 

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