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Hello everyone. I'm a new member, but have spent a good bit of time lately going through tons of old threads. I believe I want to order a set of Tina chips for a home game group that I'm a part of, and hoped to get some input and advice from the group here.

Ten plus years ago we had a group of friends who played low stakes tournaments virtually every weekend. Life happened and the game eventually went away. But we've recently started playing again after one of our old group bought a new place with a detached garage that he made into a game room. We generally have around 12 players each game, with up to 18 on the rare occasion that everyone can make it. The group exclusively plays tournaments, no cash games, with starting stacks of 2500 and 5/10 starting blinds. We play with dice chips, and simply based on the color breakdowns that they have we end up with somewhat ridiculous (in my opinion) starting stacks of 40-50 chips containing 5/10/20/50/100/500 denominations. So I'd like to gift an upgrade of chips for the group, and order enough that they don't need to cobble together different starting stacks to get everyone to 2500.

As I said, we play in a buddies garage, so I've been playing around with a design that fits the group. This is what I've come up with so far:
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My friend has a tan bulldog that everyone loves (except when he lays under one of the tables and farts while we're playing). I realize these aren't strictly traditional colors, but the yellow 500 chip is a staple in the game with everyone trying to get the "bananas". I used the design tool here for a general idea, but I'll likely ultimately want to order the 43mm web mold from Tina. I'm thinking maybe 1000 chips with a distribution of 250/250/250/200/50 (5/25/100/500/1000). We generally play one buy-in and one rebuy or add-on, but sometimes allow unlimited rebuys for the first 4-5 blind levels.

Does anyone have any suggestions or see any potential problems with what I've posted?

I like the label text matching the edge spot colors, but I know the colors are somewhat of a crapshoot. Would you recommend uniform labels?

I've never used Illustrator, and don't really want to get into that, so I intend to try and work with one of the designers here to get the exact files I'd need to order. I have the different labels saved as .svg files. Would what I have so far be a good start to streamline that? Anything else I'm not thinking of that could be helpful?

I appreciate any advice or comments anyone might have,
 
To avoid color-confusion issues, change the 25 denom chip to a light green base.

For a T5-base tourney set that covers up to 20 players with 2500 starting stacks (15/13/11/2, 250bb with 5/10 blinds), I'd recommend the following (rounded up for min qty restrictions):

300 x T5
275 x T25
225 x T100
125 x T500 (16x for color-ups, 69x for re-buys)
75 x 1000 (23x for color-ups, 52x for re-buys)
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1000 chips (20 starting stacks plus 34 re-buys)
 
To avoid color-confusion issues, change the 25 denom chip to a light green base.

For a T5-base tourney set that covers up to 20 players with 2500 starting stacks (15/13/11/2, 250bb with 5/10 blinds), I'd recommend the following (rounded up for min qty restrictions):

300 x T5
275 x T25
225 x T100
125 x T500 (16x for color-ups, 69x for re-buys)
75 x 1000 (23x for color-ups, 52x for re-buys)
-----------------
1000 chips (20 starting stacks plus 34 re-buys)
Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking 10/10/7/3 distribution, but I was worried about a lot of making change from the pot being required in the early rounds with the T5 chips. This should help with that and allow plenty of rebuys.
 
My concern would be Tina's ability to nail your colors and/or dim lighting. I'd also recommend migrating away from so much blue, especially darker blues.
The color matches are what most concern me. I've read through your 2024 Tina chip thread, as well as the Tangiers thread, so I know you've probably spent more time trying to figure their colors out than anyone. Do the .ai files contains specific color values that they use, or do they or their printer just try to color match it somehow? I've seen some very bold and attractive colors in some of the Tina sets on the site, but it's not clear to me how people get them.
 
The color matches are what most concern me. I've read through your 2024 Tina chip thread, as well as the Tangiers thread, so I know you've probably spent more time trying to figure their colors out than anyone. Do the .ai files contains specific color values that they use, or do they or their printer just try to color match it somehow? I've seen some very bold and attractive colors in some of the Tina sets on the site, but it's not clear to me how people get them.
The short answer is.. we don't really know.

My personal BELIEF is Tina prints whatever we provide as-is (CMYK) with stock printer settings, which may appear brighter/darker based upon the printer's calibration. The CMYK spectrum through printing (as added through sublimation) is definitely more vibrant though than anything that can be achieved with a dyed material/mixture, which is what we're used to with clays/etc.
 
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So I've been having a lot of fun playing around with Inkscape this week, and have a few more questions I hope you more experienced guys can answer.

One question is the edge spots around the rim. It doesn't seem like you can be consistent with a starting point for these across chip designs. For example, if you always started them at 6 o'clock, the break would split the blue dot down the middle.
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In the layout files I've seen it seems like everyone just starts at the edge of one of the patterns and goes from there. Does Tina's company align them for you?

Related to that, in eightyWon's 39mm spot graphic thread someone mentioned that for the 43mm chip the edge band layout needs to be 3.3mm x 137mm. The 43mm graphics file ngmcs8203 built there uses a 43mm chip and a 137mm edge band, but the math doesn't seem to work for that. I assume Tina would either need to scale one or that the edge spots around the band couldn't line up. If you've done a 43mm Tina chip, could you tell me the exact sizes you used?
 
So I've been having a lot of fun playing around with Inkscape this week, and have a few more questions I hope you more experienced guys can answer.

One question is the edge spots around the rim. It doesn't seem like you can be consistent with a starting point for these across chip designs. For example, if you always started them at 6 o'clock, the break would split the blue dot down the middle.
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In the layout files I've seen it seems like everyone just starts at the edge of one of the patterns and goes from there. Does Tina's company align them for you?

Related to that, in eightyWon's 39mm spot graphic thread someone mentioned that for the 43mm chip the edge band layout needs to be 3.3mm x 137mm. The 43mm graphics file ngmcs8203 built there uses a 43mm chip and a 137mm edge band, but the math doesn't seem to work for that. I assume Tina would either need to scale one or that the edge spots around the band couldn't line up. If you've done a 43mm Tina chip, could you tell me the exact sizes you used?
Ive sent art where the rolling edge starts directly at the 12 o'clock posiiton (often splitting edgespts down the middle) and I've also sent art wher the edgespots are centered withing the rolling edge. Tina has made both work.
Most important...the edgespots must match in width from the face to the rolling edge, and the space between edgespots also matches.
 
For expediency sake I think I'm going to just use some custom labels with Justin's monthly group buy. I've worked up all the labels in Inkscape as .svg files. Has anyone used any of the online tools to convert to .ai files? I'm trying to avoid the wormhole I think I'll end up going down if I install Illustrator. Also, do you generally submit individual labels, or one file containing them all?
 
For expediency sake I think I'm going to just use some custom labels with Justin's monthly group buy. I've worked up all the labels in Inkscape as .svg files. Has anyone used any of the online tools to convert to .ai files? I'm trying to avoid the wormhole I think I'll end up going down if I install Illustrator. Also, do you generally submit individual labels, or one file containing them all?
if you want, I could convert your svg file to a CMYK illustrator file, just pm me and I’ll give my email.
 

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