Horseshoe Cleveland Primaries how do you feel about the wear? (2 Viewers)

[muggles]

Hi

Just wondering for those who bought cleveland primaries. How do you feel about the general average condition of your chips when they arrived? I have been looking for for a set either the cle or cins but am a little concerned with the condition of used primaries. I cant make out the pics too well so I figured I'll just ask for general feedback from those who do own them. How would they be for workhorse homegame chips? Can i expect them to give me a lifetime of unabusive usage? Any regrets (should have splashed out for secondaries instead)?

Thank you for your time.

 

[moose]

Smoother?

j/k Used chips will last a lifetime. On the 'wear scale' these chips are pretty good, in that most will stand on edge, though the casino wear is obvious.

Get chips you like because of the colours/spots/inlays. Many people have a particular attachment to these chips because they played with them when they were live.

That being said, once you handle mint chips, it is hard to go back to used. My first couple of sets contained used chips but after that I generally have only acquired mint/near mint chips and avoided used unless they held a particular attraction to me.

 

[upNdown]

I don't like how RHC chips wear. I'm not sure why, because its the same clay, but worn RHC chips feel plasticky to me. I think that's more of a personal thing though. They're completely functional in every way and as far as casino-used chips go, I think their condition isn't bad. The $1's, which are on a THC mold, seem a little bit more worn to me than the others. I think it gives them character and I love them.

 

[muggles]

Get chips you like because of the colours/spots/inlays.

I like the CLE's gold horseshoe more. But I have never bought used casino chips before so am trying to make as informed a decision as i can.

 

[BGinGA]

I like the CLE's gold horseshoe more. But I have never bought used casino chips before so am trying to make as informed a decision as i can.

Get samples. Seriously, it cannot be said enough times. Get samples. Only way to make an intelligent and informed decision.

 

[muggles]

Get samples. Seriously, it cannot be said enough times. Get samples. Only way to make an intelligent and informed decision.

Will the samples be indicative of the average chip from the lot from the recent sale though? My impression is they would probably be of better condition and not representative.

 

[David94sc]

Except for the $25's you shouldn't be disappointed with the wear of the Cleveland primaries.

 

[BGinGA]

By samples, I don't mean buy sample sets. Get a barrel of chips that you are considering buying.... enough to determine average condition and enough to splash around and shuffle, to get a good idea of how they play, feel, sound, and look in stacks. Small price to pay to ensure you will actually like them, when considering a large set purchase..... and if you don't like them, it's pretty easy to sell 'em to somebody else.

 

[muggles]

By samples, I don't mean buy sample sets. Get a barrel of chips that you are considering buying.... enough to determine average condition and enough to splash around and shuffle, to get a good idea of how they play, feel, sound, and look in stacks. Small price to pay to ensure you will actually like them, when considering a large set purchase..... and if you don't like them, it's pretty easy to sell 'em to somebody else.

thanks for clearing that up cause everytime you say samples i keep thinking sample sets.

 

[duffman]

I love the condition of the Horseshoe Cleveland primary chips. Definitely my work horse chips for sure. Since they are already casino worn I don't have to worry about using them for their intended purpose. If I bought those mint secondaries I would be too afraid to put them in play. Don't get me wrong, mint chips are sure pretty to look at! Sort of like buying a really nice classic car and being afraid of scratching it or putting miles on it. I'd much rather buy a classic in driver quality condition, rather then something that was perfect IMHO.

 

[detroitdad]

I loved the look of the one dollar chip. The used condition had an authentic casino feel

 

[detroitdad]

You'll have to ask @joseywales he'll have my chips any day now.

BTW, I loved that there were commemorative fives mixed in with the standard fives

 

[muggles]

I love the condition of the Horseshoe Cleveland primary chips. Definitely my work horse chips for sure. Since they are already casino worn I don't have to worry about using them for their intended purpose. If I bought those mint secondaries I would be too afraid to put them in play. Don't get me wrong, mint chips are sure pretty to look at! Sort of like buying a really nice classic car and being afraid of scratching it or putting miles on it. I'd much rather buy a classic in driver quality condition, rather then something that was perfect IMHO.

Yes! I get like that all the time with new stuff! Thanks so much this was helpful.

 

[RainmanTrail]

I'm extremely picky, so take my review with a grain of salt, but in my opinion, the Cleveland primary $1s look like they've gone through a lawnmower. Like most members here, I've played in dozens, maybe 100 casinos and card rooms over the years. Never in my life have I seen $1 THC chips with this kind of flea bite damage (RHC sure, all the time, but not THC) for any amount of time on tables, let alone just 3 years of wear. Usually, THC chips wear evenly. Somehow, these appear to have been target practice for someone.

The 5s are typical of what I would have expected for RHC chips with 3 years of wear, and are in decent shape overall.
The 25s are pretty heavily used, and are more in line with what I'd expect from 5-7 years of typical casino wear. This place must have been an extremely busy casino.
The 100s and 500s are in pretty good shape, but you can still find plenty of flea bites on those too.
The 1000s are mindblowingly worn, dirty, and slightly warped. I was expecting them to be near mint. Silly me...
The 5000s are near mint, and the 25ks are mostly new with some having rack check marks.

That said, they should last most home game users a lifetime

 

[duffman]

I'm extremely picky, so take my review with a grain of salt, but in my opinion, the Cleveland primary $1s look like they've gone through a lawnmower. Like most members here, I've played in dozens, maybe 100 casinos and card rooms over the years. Never in my life have I seen $1 THC chips with this kind of flea bite damage (RHC sure, all the time, but not THC) for any amount of time on tables, let alone just 3 years of wear. Usually, THC chips wear evenly. Somehow, these appear to have been target practice for someone.

The 5s are typical of what I would have expected for RHC chips with 3 years of wear, and are in decent shape overall.
The 25s are pretty heavily used, and are more in line with what I'd expect from 5-7 years of typical casino wear. This place must have been an extremely busy casino.
The 100s and 500s are in pretty good shape, but you can still find plenty of flea bites on those too.
The 1000s are mindblowingly worn, dirty, and slightly warped. I was expecting them to be near mint. Silly me...
The 5000s are near mint, and the 25ks are mostly new with some having rack check marks.

That said, they should last most home game users a lifetime

Definitely agree with you about those 1's. It's weird, the cross hatching is still very good, but the flea bites are pretty bad. The only thing I can come up with is the practice of the dealer slamming the 1's on the drop box after a tip.

 

[Rhodeman77]

The $25's probably have more wear than is expected because for almost the first year it was open all the table games had a $25 minimum bet.

 

[David94sc]

At least with the $1's you can cherry pick as many as you need. Not so with the $25's.

 

[mike32]

I have about 250 rhc Double Down 5's in a used mixed set. Only about 10% maybe will stand on edge. I still like them and no one ever complains when we use them. And there are some discriminating customers at my games. They are quite a bit more worn than the HS 5's and would still last several lifetimes of home use.

 

[Matt G]

When I broke out the Horseshoe chips in my home game my group of guys loved them. They liked them more then my new Paulson chips that I have used in the past must be due them having some wear on them and being more typical of what people play with at casino. With that said the $25's have a lot of wear as people have said. You can easily fit 21 chips in a row on a rack. Bothered me enough that I bought 2 racks of the secondary 25's to replace them with.

 

[BGinGA]

Definitely agree with you about those 1's. It's weird, the cross hatching is still very good, but the flea bites are pretty bad. The only thing I can come up with is the practice of the dealer slamming the 1's on the drop box after a tip.

Decent theory. But is there anything different or odd regarding the table constructions? Not just poker tables, but any tables or locations where the $1 chips would have been used? Looking for hard surfaces that may have been in contact with the chips (in-table screens, shufflers, etc.).

 

[RainmanTrail]

Decent theory. But is there anything different or odd regarding the table constructions? Not just poker tables, but any tables or locations where the $1 chips would have been used? Looking for hard surfaces that may have been in contact with the chips (in-table screens, shufflers, etc.).

I was wondering if their automatic shufflers might stick up above the felt?

 

[BGinGA]

Or maybe those player registration/tracking consoles that some casinos put in tables. Did the tables have racetracks or in-table cupholders?

Perhaps Ohio players just suck at shuffling chips.

 

[Rhodeman77]

No racetracks or built in cup holders.

The dealers were very aggressive with hittting their tips on the toke box before dropping it in. More so than other casinos I have been in. Not sure if that came from management or not.

 

[RainmanTrail]

No racetracks or built in cup holders.

The dealers were very aggressive with hittting their tips on the toke box before dropping it in. More so than other casinos I have been in. Not sure if that came from management or not.

I don't think this would have been enough to damage them this badly. We did this at the Royal Casino in WA when I was there and the chips never got damaged.

 

[Shaggy]

Dare I say... Bad batch of white clay?

 

[Josh_LF]

I don't think this would have been enough to damage them this badly. We did this at the Royal Casino in WA when I was there and the chips never got damaged.

If you knock your tips on the corner of the toke box, you will will shred the rolling edges.

 

[moojersey]

I love my Cleveland Horseshoe set. I think the wear is fine for used casino Paulsons. It adds to their character and makes me less worried when I drop one

I may be in the minority, or just lucky, but my chips are in really good condition for 3 years of casino use. The 5's and 25's are the most worn as far as width, but I cannot fit 21 into a 66.7 rack. I think the 25 will start to go in but will get stuck.

For the prices that were being asked through the pre-sale, both main sales, and even some secondary sales.... I think these were one hell of a bargain. They clean up very very nicely and will definitely impress your fellow degens.

 

[GoStumpy]

Agreed, and I won't complain because I have 3 racks of very good condition $5's mated to secondary $25's... and my tri-moon quarters are in obviously great condition... the ones have the most wear but nothing compared to a 'casino worn' chip...

I will 100% agree that the fleabites would be caused by dealers hitting tips on the tray. Don't think so? Try it with your mint chips, I dare ya

 

[upNdown]

I dunno, @RainmanTrail, I feel like I should defer your experience, but I just took another look at my $1's and they're not too bad.

 

[moojersey]

Yeah I have to say my $1's didn't have a whole lot of flea bites. Honestly for $1's that are 3 years old I think mine are in great shape! Luck of the draw I suppose. I've seen pics of some bad $1's too.