How many chips for Roulette? (3 Viewers)

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As far as making the players have it better, Don't the players already have it pretty good ? If they are used to playing the lottery number of scratchies, they really have it good. Most times I've played at fundraisers, they only pay 30-1 on the inside
 
I'm working on ideas as well to turn the house edge into a player edge.

Making roulette a fair game - no edge either way - is very easy.

Just forbid bets on green, and if the ball hits green, respin. Done. It's a fair roulette game.

If you want to add some crazy and a player edge... three green in a row, and everybody's number wins! (This turns inside bets into a 0.5249% player edge, if my math is good. Paying everyone on two green in a row would result in a 9.9723% player edge, which is a bit much.

For a 5% player edge... any time a green hits, everybody on the inside gets paid off, but even money instead of 36. (That's a 5.2632% player edge.)
For a 2.6% player edge, make the green 0 a push for everyone, but the green double 00 means everyone gets paid even money on the inside.

For this last one, you can relabel the 0 or 00 as Eagles, or a custom logo. Some old US roulette wheels actually had an eagle on them for an extra house edge.)

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Alternate, if you want the greens to still be bettable:

If a green hits, all other inside numbers push, but the green gets paid off.​

That rule, by itself, makes all the numbers except the greens a fair odds bet. Then add this:

If 1 or 3 hit, the greens push; other numbers pay/lose normally.​

This brings the greens up to being fair odds. You can use any two numbers, but I like using the corners nearest the greens, so that it's easier to remember not to sweep the greens off the table when they hit.

Again, unless I'm mistaken, that should make it an even game.

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Both of these assume continuing the normal Roulette payouts of 35:1.

A third way to modify:

Play normally, but instead of paying 35:1, pay 37:1.

Bang. Fair game. But good luck with the math.

For a player edge?

Play normally, inside bets pay out 39:1 - for a 5.2632% player edge.
Paying 39:1 is actually easy - each chip becomes 40. Five chips? Make it 200 (pay 195.)
 
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I'm introducing roulette for my rentals. The question I have is, how many chips do I need to properly run a game?

I'm acquiring non-denominated chips for the game, so I'd like to figure out how many, and how many colors I should have to run a proper game. It's always for funny money for staff parties.

TIA.

Typical casino layout has 240 of each color plus a few extras (more if they have an automatic mucker). big payouts are covered with value checks. don't know how big your table is but you can get by with less, maybe 180 each color for 6-8 players
 
Thanks for the info. I think I'm going to stick with 200 of each color. It's enough to cover most bets without having to dip into denom chips, but I still can if I need to.

My poker table with the insert is tight, I am probably going to build a full size roulette table for next year.
 
I've played a few games with 100 colored chips per person, and I'm going to bump it up. Not sure how much though, maybe 150 total per player.

Using denominated chips for big payouts works well to keep the game moving, especially when there's a lot of losing chips for the dealer to sort and restack in the bank. I see it as a balancing act between how many colored chips the players have to manage and how busy you want the dealer to be with maintenance after every spin.

I'm working on ideas as well to turn the house edge into a player edge. And why not! Reduces the potential for rebuys, and the more they play the more they will probably win. Sounds like a recipe for a night packed with energy and excitement!

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Very nice. Do you have players stand/sit on the right side? Aren't they in the way when you need to clear the board?
 
OK everyone.. Anyone interested in roulettes PM me (even if you have before)... I'm getting these all sorted and I'll try to get you all what you need,

Thanks,
Jim
 
Here is what I have...

Tons of colors and letters...

3 SETS (1 SETS LEFT)- 6 colors
  • 200 each color w/ mixed symbols
  • brown, orange, fuschia, yellow, blue, green
  • 1200 Chips for $125 including shipping CONUS

1 SET - 5 colors
  • 200 each color w/ mixed symbols (no blue)
  • brown, orange, fuschia, yellow, green
  • 1000 chips for $100 shipped CONUS

2 SETS (1 LEFT) CONDADO PLAZA stamped 6 Colors
  • 200 each color (only light blue has mixed numbers)
  • yellow, purple, orange, white, brick, blue
  • 1200 chips for $150 including shipping CONUS


Thanks
Jim

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Thanks Jim!


My table is 93x45, not sure why I cut it down a little from the 4x8 sheet. I got a wooden wheel a while ago and wanted to go just above the plastic ones. This was the cheapest I could find: https://casino4you.com/product/roul...lette-supplies/roulette-wheel-19-5-inch-wood/ and I think it was $245 when I got it. It spins very well and I haven't had any issues so far, although it looks more like the one pictured from TXpokersupply's site.

DJ Mack, I like the thought line of 'keep it simple' you have with your ideas, and the imprisoned 0.

T-Chan, I did get one of those telescoping rakes to help clear the board, and try to keep some empty space above the 0/00 to move them to. Also keeping seat 6 aside for the dealer whenever possible helps.

Mental Nomad, those are some good ideas too, and interesting pics of the eagle on the wheel. I haven't seen anything like that before!
 
As far as making the players have it better, Don't the players already have it pretty good ? If they are used to playing the lottery number of scratchies, they really have it good. Most times I've played at fundraisers, they only pay 30-1 on the inside
In terms of house edge standard American Roulette is one of the worst games in the casino at over 5%. For a straight charity fundraiser I probably would not try to make the game more favorable and so the 30:1 you mention is to be expected. They usually make the Blackjack odds worse too by not allowing double downs/splits, maybe even a dealer takes all ties rule. That's par for the course when every dollar they make at the table is a dollar in the charity's coffers. Conversely every dollar they have to pay is a dollar the charity doesn't get.

On the other hand when we do casino nights we usually award prizes (donated by players with the value having no effect on their starting stacks) to the top X finishers so the players could have an edge in every game and it wouldn't matter to the house. In fact we want people accumulating large stacks because it makes for fun and exciting game play with lots of chips flying around.

Lastly not that I'm concerned about it at all but if someone were to ever accuse me of running an illegal gambling house the fact that my rules plaques show the house losing in the long run is a blow in my favor.
 
On the other hand when we do casino nights we usually award prizes (donated by players with the value having no effect on their starting stacks) to the top X finishers so the players could have an edge in every game and it wouldn't matter to the house. In fact we want people accumulating large stacks because it makes for fun and exciting game play with lots of chips flying around.

Right now, this describes 100% of all the games I'm coordinating. Something different and something fun!
 
Oops, my bad. I wish I was that baller. I didn't read the post carefully, I thought each "set" was a single color. Looked liked 6 sets of 200 left. Gonna have to pull back on that order a little.
 
Oops, my bad. I wish I was that baller. I didn't read the post carefully, I thought each "set" was a single color. Looked liked 6 sets of 200 left. Gonna have to pull back on that order a little.

I reserved one of the 1200 piece sets (6 colors x 200 chips) mixed symbols for $125. Let me know if you want to change.
 
I saw that 1 set was already taken, seeing only 6 sets left I jumped on it. I just need 1 set of mixed symbols.
 
I've amassed quite a few colors in many different quantities, but unfortunately most of them are under 200 per color.
 
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I just picked up this bad boy for couple hundred bucks
So was trying to get chips for it lol
 
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