How would you have played this hand? (1 Viewer)

[JMC9389]

Lol nah dude, that's just a cooler. But perhaps a lesson for down the road. I'm almost never good getting the underfull full house.

 

[Kentucky]

Lol nah dude, that's just a cooler. But perhaps a lesson for down the road. I'm almost never good getting the underfull full house.

My instant reaction was "What a cooler", but the more I thought about it, the more I thought I over played it which is why I posted it here - and that seems to be the case. 10NL is the place to learn, I guess...

 

[JMC9389]

My instant reaction was "What a cooler", but the more I thought about it, the more I thought I over played it which is why I posted it here - and that seems to be the case. 10NL is the place to learn, I guess...

You played it fine except for jamming the river. I just call there. And guys that have seen some shit more than me and have forgotten more than I've learned about poker agree with the line.

 

[JustinInMN]

It folds around to me and I look down at . I raise to a standard $0.30 total of my $10 stack
It folds to the Villain in the BB with a $6.00 stack who goes for the min click - $0.50 to go.
Hero?

I actually have a strong preference for the 4-bet here. I don't really like the flat. 3 reasons.

1) Only four hands have us screwed and a min-click with no read doesn't mean villain has to have it.
2) we do have position, but there are going to be a lot of tough-to-navigate flops. (Odds are we are going to see at least one overcard without improving.)
3) if I am opening late position a lot, I like to send the message that I have a hunk of 4-bets in my range beyond QQ+.

the min click - $0.50 to go.
Hero calls.

Pot $1
Flop comes

I don't love this flop because villian can have a lot of Ax given the action. It's a way ahead/way behind spot. Villian can have all smaller pairs (which we beat) or a lot of Ax and maybe even Kq or QJ. I am probably planning to station here. Betting doesn't really "protect" us nor does it get us paid by a lesser holding.

Turn -
Villain Checks.
Hero?

I think we check it again same reasons as above.

ver -
Villain leads out for pot, leaving $3 behind which I cover.
Hero?

I think this is a clear call as played, the only reason to shove here is if you believe villain is going to stack off with a King (for the straight), otherwise it's hard to give villain a calling hand that doesn't beat tens full.

River -
Villain leads out for pot, leaving $3 behind which I cover.
I jam
Villain snaps me off and shows and our boat is capsized.

So yes, I don't like the river shove, I didn't mind the rest of the post flop play.

But I do think there should have been more consideration for going for a stiff 4-bet pre. Even if he calls, it's probably a lot easier to give villain credit for an Ax hand.

 

[Frogzilla]

Isn’t the river jam only for 1/3 pot or so? Should be able to get paid by all Kx that rivered broadway for that size. Maybe even some Ax.

Not a dream spot but I think the jam isn’t terrible. It’s probably pretty close.

 

[boltonguy]

I wondered if there would be much love for a 4! with 10s. The population tends to not 3! as much as it probably should so ranges tend to be snugger on average, but maybe the min raise is a less confident raise, or maybe I'm levelling myself. Maybe it's just a welcome to the table pot sweetener?

I think being in position you are far more incented to call than to 3! here. You will have position for the remainder if the hand, which is a huge advantage and if V is at the top of his range you'll have to fold to a 5!/jam and miss the chance to flop a set .

 

[boltonguy]

I actually have a strong preference for the 4-bet here. I don't really like the flat. 3 reasons.

1) Only four hands have us screwed and a min-click with no read doesn't mean villain has to have it.
2) we do have position, but there are going to be a lot of tough-to-navigate flops. (Odds are we are going to see at least one overcard without improving.)
3) if I am opening late position a lot, I like to send the message that I have a hunk of 4-bets in my range beyond QQ+.


I don't love this flop because villian can have a lot of Ax given the action. It's a way ahead/way behind spot. Villian can have all smaller pairs (which we beat) or a lot of Ax and maybe even Kq or QJ. I am probably planning to station here. Betting doesn't really "protect" us nor does it get us paid by a lesser holding.

I think we check it again same reasons as above.

I think this is a clear call as played, the only reason to shove here is if you believe villain is going to stack off with a King (for the straight), otherwise it's hard to give villain a calling hand that doesn't beat tens full.



So yes, I don't like the river shove, I didn't mind the rest of the post flop play.

But I do think there should have been more consideration for going for a stiff 4-bet pre. Even if he calls, it's probably a lot easier to give villain credit for an Ax hand.

Just reading this post now - I am onboard with the flop check and the turn check (way ahead/way behind = check). I'm probably not jamming river because of all the AA/AQ/AJ in V's range.

 

[Divebuddy]

I wondered if there would be much love for a 4! with 10s. The population tends to not 3! as much as it probably should so ranges tend to be snugger on average, but maybe the min raise is a less confident raise, or maybe I'm levelling myself. Maybe it's just a welcome to the table pot sweetener?

As played, I called in position. I didn't fancy the higher variance route after just sitting down.

Action folds around to me and I look down at . I raise to a standard $0.30 off my $10 stack
It folds to the Villain in the BB with a $6.00 stack who goes for the min click - $0.50 to go.
Hero calls.

Pot $1
Flop comes

Villain checks. Hero?

Call, check flop

 

[Divebuddy]

We give the dealer a hard stare. A Jack, really?! @DrStrange makes a good point I hadn't thought of - V's range is so chock full of Ax that even removing half the combinations leaves it still with a significant proportion of Aces. No matter, I'm done with this hand. What are we really beating now? This is probably the least controversial street. I go with the consensus and check back.

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Action folds around to me and I look down at . I raise to a standard $0.30 off my $10 stack
It folds to the Villain in the BB with a $6.00 stack who goes for the min click - $0.50 to go.
Hero calls.
Pot $1

Flop comes
Villain checks.
Hero bets 1/2 pot.
Villain Calls.
Pot $2

Turn -
Villain Checks.
Hero Checks
Pot $2

River -
Villain leads out for pot, leaving $3 behind which I cover.
Hero?

Flop - why bet? Very few hands that you could be getting value from - villain would also need runner runner or 2/4 outer to win so little value protecting your hand Prefer check back.

Turn ok

River - pretty rough. As played I would have called it off too.

Flop check by villain makes sense retrospectively given their flopped nuts.

 

[JustinInMN]

I think being in position you are far more incented to call than to 3! here. You will have position for the remainder if the hand, which is a huge advantage and if V is at the top of his range you'll have to fold to a 5!/jam and miss the chance to flop a set .

The more I thought about it, the more I decided the better way to take advantage of position is to 4-bet pre, mainly because TT probably ahead of villain's range, but is going to face a "way-ahead/way-behind" flop most of the time. You can decide to fold to a 5-bet pre. Or you are forcing the player out of position to decide now if he wants to call out of position against a hand that may be tough to bluff on later streets.