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If you ever wondered which Paulson chips still had lead in them after '98... (1 Viewer)

Milling leaded chips seems like it would create the same sorts of lead poisoning risks posed by flakes of lead paint. Lead paint is "safe" when left on the walls but is dangerous as it deteriorates. Leaded Paulson chips are "safe" but the dust/debris from milling such chips must be hazardous.

I'd be curious what @Gear thinks of this issue. No one of us has more experience / exposure to such things. Do you take extra precautions when milling leaded chips? Or do you take precautions for all chips? Or do you just laugh it off as foolishness from neighing nannies?

DrStrange
 
DrStrange said:
Milling leaded chips seems like it would create the same sorts of lead poisoning risks posed by flakes of lead paint. Lead paint is "safe" when left on the walls but is dangerous as it deteriorates. Leaded Paulson chips are "safe" but the dust/debris from milling such chips must be hazardous.

I'd be curious what @Gear thinks of this issue. No one of us has more experience / exposure to such things. Do you take extra precautions when milling leaded chips? Or do you take precautions for all chips? Or do you just laugh it off as foolishness from neighing nannies?

DrStrange
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I would guess that there is also some risk of exposure during ultrasonic cleaning of leaded chips. Specifically when it comes to the waste water.
 
lherron said:
So I'm a little anal about lead just because the wife is expecting. Lead is serious shit in extremely small quantities, but if you're not licking the chips, giving them to kids, or pregnant, it really doesn't seem like a big deal. If Doyle and Slim don't have any ill effects of lead... I think we're all safe. I'm more curious than actually worried. But still, given the choice when buying new chips, obviously I'd prefer to have zero lead in products that I enjoy idly handling pretty much constantly :D

Anyway, I think most of us know the lead situation with Paulsons. From their official statement back in '07:

- pre '98 most colors were 47% lead (lol...)
- '98-'06 most colors were >1% lead.. except for 7 colors which were still the old 47%
- post '06 basically zero lead

So I did a little googling and found a doc that I've never seen posted here or on CT. Pretty interesting.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oppts/epats...63B006FB6EE/$FILE/88080000127.pdf?OpenElement

Officially, the colors that still had 47% lead between '98-'05 were:

Blurple, Day green, Fuschia, Indian Blue, Metallic Gold, Metallic Silver


(Apologies if this has actually been posted before.)


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DrStrange said:
Milling leaded chips seems like it would create the same sorts of lead poisoning risks posed by flakes of lead paint. Lead paint is "safe" when left on the walls but is dangerous as it deteriorates. Leaded Paulson chips are "safe" but the dust/debris from milling such chips must be hazardous.

I'd be curious what @Gear thinks of this issue. No one of us has more experience / exposure to such things. Do you take extra precautions when milling leaded chips? Or do you take precautions for all chips? Or do you just laugh it off as foolishness from neighing nannies?

DrStrange
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I vacuum up the swarf as I go, for all chips, but perhaps a little more diligently with chips that I know to contain lead. There's not much of a problem with lead unless you ingest it, and there are no fumes created during milling. The particle size is relatively large (if you're making dust, you're doing it wrong!) and they settle quickly, being lead. I am careful to wash my hands before eating or drinking... so far so good.
 
links_slayer said:
Lead (at least the lead in poker chips) isn't absorbed through the skin. You only have to worry about inhaling or ingesting it
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So.. Playing poker, and eating pizza/burgers(anything without knife and fork)is a bad combo then I guess?

And these would also be leaded then I guess?
My research sais they're from the Casablanca Casino Palm Beach Aruba, and as far as I can find, they opened in 1993
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lherron said:
So I'm a little anal about lead just because the wife is expecting. Lead is serious shit in extremely small quantities, but if you're not licking the chips, giving them to kids, or pregnant, it really doesn't seem like a big deal. If Doyle and Slim don't have any ill effects of lead... I think we're all safe. I'm more curious than actually worried. But still, given the choice when buying new chips, obviously I'd prefer to have zero lead in products that I enjoy idly handling pretty much constantly :D

Anyway, I think most of us know the lead situation with Paulsons. From their official statement back in '07:

- pre '98 most colors were 47% lead (lol...)
- '98-'06 most colors were >1% lead.. except for 7 colors which were still the old 47%
- post '06 basically zero lead

So I did a little googling and found a doc that I've never seen posted here or on CT. Pretty interesting.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oppts/epats...63B006FB6EE/$FILE/88080000127.pdf?OpenElement

Officially, the colors that still had 47% lead between '98-'05 were:

Blurple, Day green, Fuschia, Indian Blue, Metallic Gold, Metallic Silver


(Apologies if this has actually been posted before.)


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Do the leaded chips weigh more? I weighed my hitstamped Paulsons, I believe 2 denominations are older than the 3rd. The older denominations are 9.4g and the other is 8.6 each
 
SinCitySteve said:
Do the leaded chips weigh more? I weighed my hitstamped Paulsons, I believe 2 denominations are older than the 3rd. The older denominations are 9.4g and the other is 8.6 each
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Yes leaded chips weigh more. And hotstamped chips weigh more as well (because the have more clay.)
Weights vary, color to color, so it’s tough to speak in absolutes. But there’s no chance that an 8.6 gram Paulson is leaded and probably the 9.4 isn’t either.
Leaded Paulson hot stamps should be around 11 grams, say 10.5-12ish.
 
Came across this thread and was curious -- does "basically zero" mean zero -- or do Paulsons manufactured today still have trace lead amounts?
 

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