KEMs worth $35? (2 Viewers)

What is the general price and a good price for Fournier Bridge Jumbo?
Where do you usually get them?

There are only two sellers. One on eBay and one on Etsy, both Lithuanian. $30/shipped per double deck. I have bought several from the eBay seller. I love them.

Although I did find a wholesale contact and someone is working on for setups much less expensive. But we need to see how that pans out before we make that available.
 
There are only two sellers. One on eBay and one on Etsy, both Lithuanian. $30/shipped per double deck. I have bought several from the eBay seller. I love them.

Although I did find a wholesale contact and someone is working on for setups much less expensive. But we need to see how that pans out before we make that available.
Out of my range. I'll strain my eyes and hope the contact pans...Please let me know if/when it does.
 
Thinking about getting a setup of these KEMs but not sure if the price is steep. Bridge regular index brown and green. New setup for $35. Thoughts?
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Just my two cents, but I have had the worst luck with warping with Kems. I had 4 or 5 setups and ended up throwing them away. I can't remember which Kems they were, but it was horrible. If I happen to come across an unopened setup that I didn't throw away, I'll let you have them if you want to pay for shipping.
 
I really like my Kems, too.

There's are a couple of issues you should be aware of, though. Unlike some other card companies, USPCC (the company that produces Kem) doesn't offer individual replacement cards. One of the cards in my deck came to me marked, so I emailed them and they said I would have to buy a whole new deck. So, if you're unlucky, the price can add up.

Another issue is that there is a printing problem with the joker cards in some of the decks. It's been ongoing for a few years now, where the joker image will look low res/pixelated. I got my deck just a few months ago, but I've seen posts about this issue dating back years.
 
Digging out this old thread after a homegame last night where a local player brought two decks of KEM and we played with one deck, I guess this version is called paisley, the other one was an red blue arrow deck. I owned an arrow deck of KEMs probably 17-18 years ago and loved them, well, yeah, until they bend terribly so I get rid of them…

I don’t have any background about KEM and their different production lines over the last two decades, but I was really shocked to see how these two decks felt compared to the one I had back in the days. The new ones felt like, well, „ordinary“ plastic cards and they didn’t felt special, to me at all. They were great for sure. Don’t get me wrong, but compared to the old ones I owned they were far behind and I don’t why they cost so much… the old ones have been so smooth and flexible that it’s like comparing beer and whiskey and felt outstanding.

Does anyone has some detailed infos about these differences?
 
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When you’re buying paper cards one of the factors is the way they cut those cards; traditional or modern. Traditional cut is perfect for table faro, would this apply to the plastic cards? I have only 2017 WSOP cards so can’t really verify this mysen.
 
When you’re buying paper cards one of the factors is the way they cut those cards; traditional or modern. Traditional cut is perfect for table faro, would this apply to the plastic cards? I have only 2017 WSOP cards so can’t really verify this mysen.
I do not understand, please explain...
 
So- old machines cut cards from sheets faces down means faces of the cards were down, new machines by some reason cutting sheets cards faces up. This cutting creates tiny bevel at the end of the cards; this bevel helps cards to wave easier (faro). Traditionally cut cards faro better face down, modern cut faro better faces up, quite pointless when you’re shuffle cards at the table. I hope that explains this, I know it sounds quite complicated.
 
So- old machines cut cards from sheets faces down means faces of the cards were down, new machines by some reason cutting sheets cards faces up. This cutting creates tiny bevel at the end of the cards; this bevel helps cards to wave easier (faro). Traditionally cut cards faro better face down, modern cut faro better faces up, quite pointless when you’re shuffle cards at the table. I hope that explains this, I know it sounds quite complicated.
I have no idea how the proces goes....
I try to contact some producers and ask. I also ask guy who works in Matsui ...
 

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