If I create a 1,000 chip set that is 900x $0.25s and either 100x$5.00s or 80x$5.00s and 20x$100.00s to play $1/$2 as a 4chip/8chip game am I doing it right?
It depends on how many rebuys you want per player. At a 10 handed table , a rack of $5s at those stakes will give them 2 rebuys each. If you do 80 x $5 and 20 x $100 that will give you 96 rebuys total. This is assuming they are buying back in one rack at a time at $25 a pop.If I create a 1,000 chip set that is 900x $0.25s and either 100x$5.00s or 80x$5.00s and 20x$100.00s to play $1/$2 as a 4chip/8chip game am I doing it right?
If I create a 1,000 chip set that is 900x $0.25s and either 100x$5.00s or 80x$5.00s and 20x$100.00s to play $1/$2 as a 4chip/8chip game am I doing it right?
I'll admit 18 racks of one denomination chip seems REALLY daunting, like I somewhat wonder where you even put that together.
Thanks for the advice and thanks for the offer.Ugh. Just look at those chip towers that @Nanook posted a few posts back, and imagine your regular home game player trying to deal around it. Just do 2/4 chip game for home games, it simplifies everything sooo much!
I have two limit sets of 900 non-denoms plus value chips. You are welcome to borrow one for your game any time. Try it out for yourself, then you can make your own informed decision.
I will never agree that 4/8 chip game is optimal for a home game setting. People drinking and passing around the deal....it's just going to be a mess. Dedicated dealer, well maybe...
Give me a shout when you are thinking about hosting, maybe we can make a handoff....or just give me an invite to the game!
Maybe so, but only from the standpoint of needing a lot of chips for everyone to have 3 or 4 racks in front of them...uhhh, pretty big for a home game.
Either one should work just fine most of the time, but I would go with your 2nd option just in case...If I create a 1,000 chip set that is 900x $0.25s and either 100x$5.00s or 80x$5.00s and 20x$100.00s to play $1/$2 as a 4chip/8chip game am I doing it right?
Sorry, but more chips = more fun... & every 2 chip game I have ever played in dies as it is just not all that much fun.Ugh. Just look at those chip towers that @Nanook posted a few posts back, and imagine your regular home game player trying to deal around it. Just do 2/4 chip game for home games, it simplifies everything sooo much!
I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I am not a fan of a 2 chip limit game at all.I will never agree that 4/8 chip game is optimal for a home game setting. People drinking and passing around the deal....it's just going to be a mess. Dedicated dealer, well maybe...
Not at all. Everyone gets used to it really quickly honestly I can easily have 10 racks in front of me without it being an issue at all. I am not advocating for everyone having 5 racks in front in a home game, but there is no reason you can't run a nice 3 or 4 chip limit game with 900 or 1200 of your base denominationThanks for the advice and thanks for the offer.
Having never experienced it I can't say for sure, but yeah, people constantly pushing 4 or 8 chips into the middle seems like it could get out of hand in a casual setting really quickly.
I just don’t understand why, if a later street gets capped, you’d want people pushing 32 chips into the middle. The average person I play cards with sucks at cutting out chips (which means half of them are worse than that, thanks Carlin) - ain’t nobody got time for that!Thanks for the advice and thanks for the offer.
Having never experienced it I can't say for sure, but yeah, people constantly pushing 4 or 8 chips into the middle seems like it could get out of hand in a casual setting really quickly.
I recently played a $1/2 FL game with $1 chips. With PCFers no less.Sorry, but more chips = more fun
Anyone that sucks at cutting out 3 or 4 chips at a time has not played limit more than once or twice. Once you have, it is super easy and the betting goes WAY faster than it does in nl because it is always the same. You don't ever have someone making a raise to $63 or $118 or whatever stupid # people decide on.I just don’t understand why, if a later street gets capped, you’d want people pushing 32 chips into the middle. The average person I play cards with sucks at cutting out chips (which means half of them are worse than that, thanks Carlin) - ain’t nobody got time for that!
Playing $1/2 limit with $1 chips doesn't even allow for a small blind. What you are describing is actually a 1 chip game (where the small bets are 1 chip) Not that big a deal to have 2 big blinds and that would work just fine, but it is certainly far from ideal. I am not saying you can't have fun playing a 2 chip game or even a 1 chip game. Sure, it can be done and I have no doubts that some here will do it successfully. What I am saying is that 2 chip games and even more so 1 chip games are not ideal.I recently played a $1/2 FL game with $1 chips. With PCFers no less.
I assure you, we had plenty of fun.
Agree to disagree.Playing $1/2 limit with $1 chips doesn't even allow for a small blind. What you are describing is actually a 1 chip game (where the small bets are 1 chip) Not that big a deal to have 2 big blinds and that would work just fine, but it is certainly far from ideal. I am not saying you can't have fun playing a 2 chip game or even a 1 chip game. Sure, it can be done and I have no doubts that some here will do it successfully. What I am saying is that 2 chip games and even more so 1 chip games are not ideal.
You can start some of your players out with only T100 & up chips in a T25 tournament and still make it work too. Just because you can do something and make it work does not make it the best solution.
$2/4 would be fine for your group. Play with $1 chips.I really want to learn how to play limit games. I'm definitely a troglodyte that needs to do something to understand it fully. Now that I have the images for my custom set made, I can make a limit set whenever I want.
It took me actually playing tournaments a few times to understand starting stacks, breakdowns, what breakdowns work better, etc when I wanted to learn about them. Looks like I need to get on YouTube and do the same thing to learn limit.
What stakes usually are best for home games?
My players usually play 25c/50c for no limit hold em.
Does that jeannie need 900x quarters and 100x bank chips?
And after reading the posts above, 2/4 chip games seem best I assume. Usually one player at our games (me most of the time) deals all night, so it's not too cumbersome.
I think that a lot of talk about efficiency comes down to people wanting nicer/more expensive chips than the amount of money they are able/willing to spend......
I think it’s funny that we spend so much time on PCF talking about efficiency. Cash game chips must increase in increments of 4x-5x. 3 page debates on the right number of 500s to put in T25 8/8/ starting stacks. Shuffle ahead or shuffle behind wars......
so quarters or half dollars?If you play 2/4 limit with $1 chips most people are not going to win or lose more than $100 in a night & +/- $200 is going to be a an outlier.
Exactly. Just like a pretty standard .25/.50 game. EDIT: .25/.50 NL gameIf you play 2/4 limit with $1 chips most people are not going to win or lose more than $100 in a night & +/- $200 is going to be a an outlier.
Holler when you want to put a game together! I will travel for limit after Covid numbers drop back down.
Are you saying +/- 25 bbs a night is standard in limit games?If you play 2/4 limit with $1 chips most people are not going to win or lose more than $100 in a night & +/- $200 is going to be a an outlier.
I'm definitely confused. Where is this on the periodic table?I think you are slightly confused. The optimimun set breakdown for each category is different.
Yes and NoAre you saying +/- 25 bbs a night is standard in limit games?
Remember what I said above that there are no rules about what you can or can not do and lots of different ways work but some ways work better than others so my suggestion is what I think will work best & not always the best for you... For example maybe you just want to try it out 1st and you already have chips and don't want to buy more just yet etc.For 6 players and .50/1 I have:
320 x $1
240 x .25
$63 of chips per player should be good for rebuys?
If I remember average pot sizes will be between 5-10 dollars and rarely up to about 20?
about right, yesI've done a bunch of reading and normally it seems like people buy in at 20-25x the big bet. The difference seems mostly to round up to a full rack of chips.
more than 5 Big Bets going into any pot is fairly unusual. It happens occasionally, but not very often and if you are playing a 1 or 2 chip game I would say more than 5 Big Bets for 1 player is almost never going to happen unless you have something like AA vs AA and unlimited bets and both players just keep betting until it is all in. Yes this can happen, but it is very rare.The most you could ever have a player put into a pot would be 12x the big bet. This doesn't seem that common to have that much going in and is half their stack. Enough they aren't throwing it away, not enough they get up and leave. It also means that they have enough for the ups and downs of the game without constantly having to reach into their wallet to rebuy.
Seems like you more or less have itSomeone, please correct me if my research has been wrong on this.
lolI'm definitely confused. Where is this on the periodic table?
Let me esplain
If you want a friendly game where everyone has fun and no one really loses more than they can afford then make the game small with a 3 or 4 chip structure and limit. Everyone will keep coming back to your game having fun and no one will really get mad or go broke.
Your breakdown is not ideal for limit.