Mix of Molds on Casino Sets (2 Viewers)

[mnebesny]

Why do some Casino sets have a variety of different molds within the same set? One example would be how the PCA primary set is mostly the THC mold but uses the RHC mold for the $1 chip. I know that the RHC mold let's you have a larger inlay, but other than this is there any reason why you would want to have a mix of molds?

 

[BGinGA]

I've never figured it out. PCA $1, Aztar $5, Horseshoe $1, there are countless examples, from multiple states. Some places mix ceramics and clays, and at least one place has three different chip types in play simultaneously.

I think they do it just to tilt chip geeks.

 

[Chipenhagen]

Not knowing anything about the particular case but speaking in general, I would think that casinos don't necessarily consider their different chip values at a given time as a "set". They may have been acquired at different times, different persons may have been taking the decisions taking the current prices and options into consideration. Furthermore a casino may have specific reasons for making a certain chip easily recognizable - either to make it clearly distinct from chips of other values or to make it clearly distinct from earlier versions of the same value chip. For a casino, utility and cost is more important than coherent design.

Edit: corrected typo

 

[FDLmold]

For all we know GPI told the casino “Hey we can get your order done faster if we mix up how the chips look.”

 

[RichMahogany]

Just a guess, maybe GPI rejected the spot choices and color pattern on one mold (THC) but approved it on another (RHC).

Or vice versa.

 

[ovo]

Mesquite Star uses bud jones for the quarter and RHC for the rest. That just don't work

 

[RudysNYC]

Some places mix ceramics and clays, and at least one place has three different chip types in play simultaneously.

I have never been more confused than when I was at Potawtomi in Milwaukee, hit blackjack on both my hands, and got paid on one hand with a ceramic .50 and on the other with a clay .50. Didn't like it one bit.

 

[mnebesny]

Just a guess, maybe GPI rejected the spot choices and color pattern on one mold (THC) but approved it on another (RHC).

Or vice versa.

What are some reasons that GPI would reject a design? Does this happen often? I didn't realize it was a thing. Guess I never really thought about it.

 

[upNdown]

What are some reasons that GPI would reject a design? Does this happen often? I didn't realize it was a thing. Guess I never really thought about it.

If another casino had used that exact color and spot pattern on that mold, GPI would reject it. Allowing each casino to have unique chips is a big security feature and selling point.

 

[RichMahogany]

@upNdown has your answer covered.

Some spot colors are also not allowed on certain base colors. Likely due to processing difficulties and possibly a high reject rate.

 

[GianThaMan]

I’ve always assumed the rhc mold was cheaper to produce, based on how many casinos use it, so the $1 chip, which they ordered a bunch of, would be cheaper to buy. That could be a misguided answer, but that’s what I’ve always thought. The only reason I could think of for rhc being cheaper, is they have a bunch more cups for it.

 

[Thomacetti]

I’ve always assumed the rhc mold was cheaper to produce, based on how many casinos use it, so the $1 chip, which they ordered a bunch of, would be cheaper to buy. That could be a misguided answer, but that’s what I’ve always thought. The only reason I could think of for rhc being cheaper, is they have a bunch more cups for it.

Aztar Mo has the best $1 ever but the $5 is the birthmark of the mona lisa....

And almost equal amounts of $1 and $5 chips ordered (in those days...now a lot more $5 chips)

PCA

Primary Chips

$ 0.50 27,054 chips
$ 1.00 45,508 chips
$ 5.00 38,872 chips
$ 25.00 24,873 chips
$ 100.00 10,931 chips
$ 500.00 2,999 chips

Total 150,237

Secondary Chips

$ 0.50 10,000 chips
$ 1.00 47,000 chips
$ 5.00 35,000 chips
$ 25.00 21,000 chips
$ 100.00 7,000 chips
$ 500.00 1,000 chips

Total 121,000

 

[GianThaMan]

Aztar Mo has the best $1 ever but the $5 is the birthmark of the mona lisa....

And almost equal amounts of $1 and $5 chips ordered (in those days...now a lot more $5 chips)

PCA

Primary Chips

$ 0.50 27,054 chips
$ 1.00 45,508 chips
$ 5.00 38,872 chips
$ 25.00 24,873 chips
$ 100.00 10,931 chips
$ 500.00 2,999 chips

Total 150,237

Secondary Chips

$ 0.50 10,000 chips
$ 1.00 47,000 chips
$ 5.00 35,000 chips
$ 25.00 21,000 chips
$ 100.00 7,000 chips
$ 500.00 1,000 chips

Total 121,000

My guess would be that they wanted a different type of chip inlay for each denomination, and there weren’t enough unique shaped inlays, so they needed one of them to be an rhc chip to avoid someone turning a rack of $5s into a rack of $500s or something along those lines.

 

[Thomacetti]

My guess would be that they wanted a different type of chip inlay for each denomination, and there weren’t enough unique shaped inlays, so they needed one of them to be an rhc chip to avoid someone turning a rack of $5s into a rack of $500s or something along those lines.

Not all available shaped inlays were used with PCA set and THC round was also still a possibility

 

[GianThaMan]

Not all available shaped inlays were used with PCA set and THC round was also still a possibility

Yeah, I see that now.

 

[Thomacetti]

Yeah, I see that now.

I think they do it just to tilt chip geeks.

^^ this ^^

How to fix it ?

Correct the error

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