Smokestack997
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I just got a set of da vinci's, I think I prefer them over copags. I got the persianos to mix up color scheme.
Definitely like the texture of the Da Vincis more than stock Copags. Their durability is around the same thoughI just got a set of da vinci's, I think I prefer them over copags. I got the persianos to mix up color scheme.
ACEs are really affordable. I remember buying them in the local supermaket in LA when I was there.I've become a card whore, and, my favorites are Belgium Cartimundi, Modiano Platinum, but, those will likely be hard to find. Same for Gemaco Superflex (I may have a couple of decks in poker/regular index if that works for you). I love the feel of KEM, but, can't justify the price especially considering their issues with warping.
I've been playing a lot lately with Broken Arrow Pro's, and, am very impressed. Posted a small review somewhere on this forum in another thread. Well worth the money!
I'm also impressed with a card called ACE, it's a Cartimundi USA card, and it has a pretty good feel. Mostly smooth on both sides, very flexible, and pitch great. Only real complaint is the biplane backs, not really my taste.
DaVinci are an affordable alternative that plays and feels pretty good.
Desjgn are great, as well, and can't wait until the Kickstart comes about.
Just my random two cents.
Not a fan of Aces...Slippery as f...k and losing paint fast, also you need to be careful not to nick it wit nailsI haven't had the Aces very long, so can't comment on the durability, same with the Broken Arrow. They can be great, until the ink wears off... time will tell. There seems to be trade offs with most brands. I remember Copags from 15 years ago with the disappearing ink. I still haven't fully gotten over my butt hurt from that.
My Kem cards came in a two deck plastic case with four holes in the bottom. I have noticed that which ever side of the deck was facing the holes had a tendency to bend slightly in that direction. I have solved this by folding a paper towel to the perfect thickness (placed over the holes) to force the cards and a plastic card cutter (on the top of the cards) to lay flat and I put two rubber band to keep pressure on the cards. I have been able to take the bend out of some decks in this way. Also, I do not keep cards in my closet drawers any more. Because closets tend to be be on the exterior of the house, and tend to cooler than the rest of the house, they tend to have a relative humidity above 50%. This kills cards.ACEs are really affordable. I remember buying them in the local supermaket in LA when I was there.
Still have one deck left. Nice feel but they're fading on me and I don't even use them much at all.
Cristallos are great but many can not handle 4x jumbo index they come withSince you’ve already got a few Copags, sounds like a good time to mix it up a bit. A few options you might like:
Depends a bit on what feel you want, but any of these would give you something different from Copag while still being high quality.
- KEM Arrow – Classic casino look, super smooth, just has that old-school vibe.
- Fournier 2818 – Really clean and classy design, great feel, kind of has a Euro casino aesthetic.
- Modiano Cristallo – More heavy-duty, very durable, with more traditional backs.
- Cartamundi Poker Pro – Simple, modern-traditional look, shuffles great, handles super well.
I have Casino Circle jumbo in bridge size from early 2000s that work great after 3+ years of constant use, no bowing...just little rubbery that affects shuffling@snoozedoggydog The best KEM I have are from the 40's and early 50's. Most all of the ones I have from the 80' up are bowed. Some of the ones from the 40's are some of the best feeling cards I have, and the ink still looks great on them. Why did they have to change?? You can't have nothin' round here!!
@surfik The Ace are slippery when pitched across the table, they fly across the felt, but, I can work around that. The feel of them is almost ideal, for me. I started doing a rub test on them to see how a particular holds up to 100 rubs a day across a piece of felt. See how long the ink lasts. I'm becoming a card geek.
My Kem cards came in a two deck plastic case with four holes in the bottom. I have noticed that which ever side of the deck was facing the holes had a tendency to bend slightly in that direction. I have solved this by folding a paper towel to the perfect thickness (placed over the holes) to force the cards and a plastic card cutter (on the top of the cards) to lay flat and I put two rubber band to keep pressure on the cards. I have been able to take the bend out of some decks in this way. Also, I do not keep cards in my closet drawers any more. Because closets tend to be be on the exterior of the house, and tend to cooler than the rest of the house, they tend to have a relative humidity above 50%. This kills cards.