New Tina Mold Poll (6 Viewers)

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Why no THC option?

There's been a lot of discussion about this in other threads. A LOT of us are totally against it. You want THC? Buy Paulsons.

 

[Meddler2]

There's been a lot of discussion about this in other threads. A LOT of us are totally against it. You want THC? Buy Paulsons.

I've read most of that thread but don't agree with the notion that the THC mold should be off limits whereas other molds aren't. A LOT of us are totally in favor of it.

You want Cigar, Greek, or Suits? Buy CPC, or BCC chips.

Btw I've got plenty of Paulson's and I would buy Tina THC as well. The sickness is that real.

 

[Asmodeus]

Greek, the rest give me a dice chips vibe.

 

[Meddler2]

Obsolete molds such as Roman would be a cool option...

 

[Johnblue]

The Greek mold gives options, the rest are spaced pips, just different shapes, I like the horseshoe or cigar better than cards, but it’s basically the same thing.

The Greek key, or anything that wraps all the way around that way, would be pretty awesome, would add a ton of texture.

 

[Johnblue]

Meh on all 4.

If I had to pick one, it'd be the greek key - but isn't that a common CPC mold?

Are there any other options?

I think I have seen a bunch of key molds thoughoutbthe years, large key, small key, a few different manufactures.

It’s kinda like the Greek key mold was something everyone did back in the day, that’s why I like it for ceramic mold.

 

[davislane]

http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesignindex_site.htm

for those curious to see all* molds ever made.


*im pretty sure its all molds

 

[davislane]

or anything that wraps all the way around that way, would be pretty awesome, would add a ton of texture.

this

 

[ktran]

The Greek mold gives options, the rest are spaced pips, just different shapes, I like the horseshoe or cigar better than cards, but it’s basically the same thing.

The Greek key, or anything that wraps all the way around that way, would be pretty awesome, would add a ton of texture.

Maybe more friction too for less slick chips?

Palm trees I would see be popular.

I would definitely be interested if the mold part could actually make them stack better and be less slick.

Maybe red prints well on line molds like diamonds and Greek mold?

 

[BGinGA]

the old BCC Sun Mold that used to be casinos only. I know it’s not on the list but it’s pretty clean and could work.

^ That mold is currently owned -- and bring used -- by GPI, offered to casinos only as the "Flower" mold for their Blue Chip brand of budget clay chips. Illegally using it would be no different than using their THC mold.

In fact, versions of all four of the molds in this thread's OP poll are owned by someone, and legally, each would need to be sufficiently modified to avoid copyright and/or trademark infringement. Same for the other molds (Roman, THC, Sun/Flower) being discussed in this thread.

Best option is a new unique design, or a Greek key variant that hasn't been produced before (i.e., not a copy of an existing mgk mold).

 

[Johnblue]

^ That mold is currently owned -- and bring used -- by GPI, offered to casinos only as the "Flower" mold for their Blue Chip brand of budget clay chips. Illegally using it would be no different than using their THC mold.

In fact, versions of all four of the molds in this thread's OP poll are owned by someone, and legally, each would need to be sufficiently modified to avoid copyright and/or trademark infringement. Same for the other molds (Roman, THC, Sun/Flower) being discussed in this thread.

Best option is a new unique design, or a Greek key variant that hasn't been produced before (i.e., not a copy of an existing mgk mold).

Double embossed inner and outer ring, handmade key or square/square type design to fit. That would add a ton of texture.

“Dots” mold is another favorite I’ve had that is rare with a ton of texture,

The “L” and “T” molds vibe like the Greek key.

Any designer could whip something out like this pretty easy and it could be different enough.

When I say square/square I mean like diamond square, but literally just repeating squares would give that vintage classic vibe

I think since the key mold is winning pretty strong, it shows that at least people seam to want that textured fully wrapped mold vibe, now maybe make a couple repeating fully wrapped shapes to choose from and go with that.

As long as you aren’t copy/pasting, and actually just making a pattern of your own, it’s a different mold.

Cool work man. !

 

[davislane]

^ That mold is currently owned -- and bring used -- by GPI, offered to casinos only as the "Flower" mold for their Blue Chip brand of budget clay chips. Illegally using it would be no different than using their THC mold.

In fact, versions of all four of the molds in this thread's OP poll are owned by someone, and legally, each would need to be sufficiently modified to avoid copyright and/or trademark infringement. Same for the other molds (Roman, THC, Sun/Flower) being discussed in this thread.

Best option is a new unique design, or a Greek key variant that hasn't been produced before (i.e., not a copy of an existing mgk mold).

When you say owned what does that even mean? Playing devils advocate here, but how does one own a pattern? is there a registered trademark anywhere? Assuming there is one how would that apply to a manufacturer in China selling direct to poker chip degenerates?

 

[BGinGA]

I think since the key mold is winning pretty strong, it shows that at least people seam to want that textured fully wrapped mold vibe, now maybe make a couple repeating fully wrapped shapes to choose from and go with that.

Just beware that the more debossing a given mold contains, the less material it contains and the lighter it will be.

A standard 10g no-mold 39mm ceramic blank with a continuous debossed pattern added around the perimeter will likely weigh close to just 9g.

 

[BGinGA]

When you say owned what does that even mean? Playing devils advocate here, but how does one own a pattern? is there a registered trademark anywhere? Assuming there is one how would that apply to a manufacturer in China selling direct to poker chip degenerates?

Yes, 'ownership' includes copyright protection for the artist/owner, and in some cases, trademarked images for corporate owners. Yes, THC is a trademarked image.

 

[davislane]

Yes, 'ownership' includes copyright protection for the artist/owner, and in some cases, trademarked images for corporate owners. Yes, THC is a trademarked image.

trademarked globally or just in the USA?

 

[BGinGA]

trademarked globally or just in the USA?

Frickin' aussie criminals.

Considering GPI is a global company, I assume more than just the US. But ianal.

 

[Johnblue]

Just beware that the more debossing a given mold contains, the less material it contains and the lighter it will be.

A standard 10g no-mold 39mm ceramic blank with a continuous debossed pattern added around the perimeter will likely weigh close to just 9g.

How much do these Cards mold chips weigh? I don’t even know?

 

[davislane]

Frickin' aussie criminals.

Considering GPI is a global company, I assume more than just the US. But ianal.

Not an Aussie criminal, just challenging the US centric view of the world.

 

[ovo]

Greek is beautiful

 

[SmockKnives]

So everyone is going to be ok when the Greek blurs out the edge spots?

 

[5bucks]

Greek for sure

 

[raynmanas]

So everyone is going to be ok when the Greek blurs out the edge spots?

this is actually a really good point. the color kind of washes out inside the mold pattern on card molds chips. this effect could be far more significant on something like the greek mold.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I've read most of that thread but don't agree with the notion that the THC mold should be off limits whereas other molds aren't. A LOT of us are totally in favor of it.

You're obviously more than welcome to have your own opinion, or start your own GB.

You want Horseshoe, Cigar, Greek, or Suits? Buy CPC, or BCC chips.

CPC doesn't offer any of those and BCC molds are owned by GPI and have been retired. I would love it if we could convince them to bring them out of retirement and make some of those old molds for the home market, but that seems pretty unlikely at this time.

 

[200 Motels]

Not a fan of any of them. Greek being my least fav. Let's make our own.

 

[DeeVee8]

Might I suggest a Monster Truck crossed by a meth needle?

 

[SmockKnives]

this is actually a really good point. the color kind of washes out inside the mold pattern on card molds chips. this effect could be far more significant on something like the greek mold.

I think a render is one thing but I can see the whole outside ring being a blur. People have to remember this isn’t clay and the printer will have to get down in all those grooves. I’m no poker chip expert but Ive been a product designer for 15 years.. the Greek is the winner so far but I don’t think it will turn out how guys think.

 

[200 Motels]

Instead of horse head, we could have scrub donkey mold.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

How much do these Cards mold chips weigh? I don’t even know?

They average 9.6 to 9.8g

 

[FDLmold]

I don't recommend any new mold that looks similar to any old mold that is or was used for actual live casino chips. Even if the mold is long out of use. Make something new! You will have zero chance of running into any problems.

My idea has always been eight alternating TRK small crowns with CPC FDL symbols. An FDL-Scrown mold! I corresponded with David Spragg a little bit about such a thing, to make sure I wasn't stepping on any toes, and I'm pretty sure that idea was ok at the time I considered it. He is very helpful. Molds are registered with the NGRC I believe. At least three of the choices here are very close to patterns that are or were used for live NV casino chips.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

^ That mold is currently owned -- and bring used -- by GPI, offered to casinos only as the "Flower" mold for their Blue Chip brand of budget clay chips. Illegally using it would be no different than using their THC mold.

In fact, versions of all four of the molds in this thread's OP poll are owned by someone, and legally, each would need to be sufficiently modified to avoid copyright and/or trademark infringement. Same for the other molds (Roman, THC, Sun/Flower) being discussed in this thread.

Best option is a new unique design, or a Greek key variant that hasn't been produced before (i.e., not a copy of an existing mgk mold).

Dave, I know earlier this year (or last year?) you were working on a new mold yourself. Did anything ever come of that? Did you drop the project or just slide it to the back burner. I was excited with some of the things you wanted to get done, specifically sharper edges.

I wonder if anyone has ever told Tina that we'd be interested in sharper edges. They have clearly used some different blanks over the past 2+ years, and some were sharper than others.