I have no idea what I'll use the no-value chips for (or the $25s, for that matter). But anyway, my non-standard line-up, for both colors and spot progression:
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Official Hybrid GB 43mm & 39mm - Three Themes - Cash &Tournament (1 Viewer)
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RichMahogany
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I went standard tourney denoms and colors, non denom as bounty chip.
I wish I could mix and match the labels. I really like the BJ chips, and a couple of the tourney chis are just killers, such as your $100 white chip.
My biggest problem is that I won't want to spend hours putting stickers on a bunch of chips
Chris Flynn
3 of a Kind
I just couldn't decide from each of those great label choices, and I wanted a limit set which could have maximum flexibility in stakes - I ended up ordering all blanks - I may get labels later though.
I wish I could mix and match the labels. I really like the BJ chips, and a couple of the tourney chis are just killers, such as your $100 white chip.
My biggest problem is that I won't want to spend hours putting stickers on a bunch of chips
You could... You can put any of the designed labels on any of the designed chips. The mfg/Sal does all the work.
That, I did not know
Bummer. Perhaps it's not too late to order, but I don't know!
Whew...good thing there was a deadline! Started with a limit set, then kept adding...
All 43mm.
Non denom is for .25 or .50 cents, depending on the blinds...
I have a barrel of blue non denoms from the group buy which will not be named, and will be labeling them as $500.
$1000s are just so I can have a barrel and see if I made a good or bad decision with the fracs (wanted the orange, but wasn't sure if they were too close to the $5 chip.)
Super excited to get these in play!!
Non denom is for .25 or .50 cents, depending on the blinds...
I have a barrel of blue non denoms from the group buy which will not be named, and will be labeling them as $500.
$1000s are just so I can have a barrel and see if I made a good or bad decision with the fracs (wanted the orange, but wasn't sure if they were too close to the $5 chip.)
Super excited to get these in play!!
Dang that's a lot of chips! Nice haul!Whew...good thing there was a deadline! Started with a limit set, then kept adding...
All 43mm.
Non denom is for .25 or .50 cents, depending on the blinds...
I have a barrel of blue non denoms from the group buy which will not be named, and will be labeling them as $500.
$1000s are just so I can have a barrel and see if I made a good or bad decision with the fracs (wanted the orange, but wasn't sure if they were too close to the $5 chip.)
Super excited to get these in play!!
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OldWestPokerSupplies
3 of a Kind
Well, folks, all is good. All orders and artwork have been submitted. This was a great group buy.
Thank you to everyone who participated and especially those who placed orders.
I'm looking forward to getting some sleep this weekend. lol.
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FINAL TOTALS (as of Oct 20th)
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39mm - 6635
43mm - 14442
60mm - 28
Labels - 3270
Thank you to everyone who participated and especially those who placed orders.
I'm looking forward to getting some sleep this weekend. lol.
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FINAL TOTALS (as of Oct 20th)
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39mm - 6635
43mm - 14442
60mm - 28
Labels - 3270
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Thanks for all your hard work during this process Sal, and for coordinating this GB. This is my first GB experience and it was overwhelmingly a positive one!
Now I just have to totally forget about these chips for the next few weeks as I anxiously await their arrival!
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OldWestPokerSupplies
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We've got a bit of a wrinkle folks. It's not a terrible thing. We just have to make a decision.
Several members inquired whether the centers of the chips would be printed or left white. I informed everyone that they would be printed...
However, the printer has informed me that he printed the prototypes with white centers AND that printing the centers of the hybrids poses a problem because the white vinyl labels are not entirely opaque. Meaning that having a colored background might affect the vibrancy or "whiteness" of everything that is meant to be printed white on the label.
He informed me that he's done this in the past and it's not terribly noticeable BUT since he is very picky about such things it does bother him. I know that all of you are also very picky about such things and some of you have ordered without labels.
This is not a thing where we can print some with white centers and other with printed centers. It has to be one way or the other.
Of course getting an answer from everyone is time sensitive since we hold up the process the longer it takes to decide.
So we need to have this discussion right away.
EDIT: (I've sent separate emails to those members who ordered chips without labels)
Several members inquired whether the centers of the chips would be printed or left white. I informed everyone that they would be printed...
However, the printer has informed me that he printed the prototypes with white centers AND that printing the centers of the hybrids poses a problem because the white vinyl labels are not entirely opaque. Meaning that having a colored background might affect the vibrancy or "whiteness" of everything that is meant to be printed white on the label.
He informed me that he's done this in the past and it's not terribly noticeable BUT since he is very picky about such things it does bother him. I know that all of you are also very picky about such things and some of you have ordered without labels.
This is not a thing where we can print some with white centers and other with printed centers. It has to be one way or the other.
Of course getting an answer from everyone is time sensitive since we hold up the process the longer it takes to decide.
So we need to have this discussion right away.
EDIT: (I've sent separate emails to those members who ordered chips without labels)
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For those of us who are artistically challenged, any pics to share for comparison?
At a minimum, the chip faces should be printed with enough run-out to ensure that no unprinted white ceramic material appears beyond the edges of any applied labels. This has been requested from and performed by Sun-Fly in the past for identical hybrid blanks. Their 'standard' printing (before the request) did show a white ring beyond the affixed labels. Increasing the run-out fixed the problem.
Personally, I have no preference regarding full-color vs partial-color blanks for my order, so long as the above is accomplished.
Perhaps altering all artwork to provide a single uniform (light) color for all chip design centers would be a viable solution.
Personally, I have no preference regarding full-color vs partial-color blanks for my order, so long as the above is accomplished.
Perhaps altering all artwork to provide a single uniform (light) color for all chip design centers would be a viable solution.
I ordered blanks, and I agree with BGinGA -- I'm fine with either printed or unprinted, as long as there is a bit of coverage at the outer edge of the label recess to act as a trap or bleed.
Chris Flynn
3 of a Kind
I was one of the folks that asked about this specifically before placing and order - based on the response at the time that the centers would be printed in color I went ahead and ordered a large limit set of blanks.
Since we ended up hitting the minimums by a comfortable margin above my ordered amount I now request that my order be cancelled and refunded if it will be the case that printing in color affects the appearance of labeled chips. - I don't want other members who ordered with labels to have a sub-optimal product and I believe that I'm very likely in a small minority that purchased blanks.
Thanks Sal, have greatly appreciated your efforts on this group buy!
Since we ended up hitting the minimums by a comfortable margin above my ordered amount I now request that my order be cancelled and refunded if it will be the case that printing in color affects the appearance of labeled chips. - I don't want other members who ordered with labels to have a sub-optimal product and I believe that I'm very likely in a small minority that purchased blanks.
Thanks Sal, have greatly appreciated your efforts on this group buy!
I only ordered 25 blanks and a bunch with labels so I agree to go with what is best for the labels per BGinGA's advice with the increased run-out.
Sal, I have not gotten an email but perhaps I can convert my blank order to custom label order? I'll shoot you an email.
Sal, I have not gotten an email but perhaps I can convert my blank order to custom label order? I'll shoot you an email.
This seems to be an issue connected with the BJ chips and not the 818’s, correct? The 818’s with color matched labels should not be impacted (if I am thinking this through properly). If the run out slides under the edges of the labels (with color matched chips/labels), then I THINK I am fine.
EDIT: as I know nothing about materials, would a label change help this, as in making the material opaque? Again, I am a simple caveman, and do not know that answer.
Will echo others, a pic could be helpful.
EDIT: as I know nothing about materials, would a label change help this, as in making the material opaque? Again, I am a simple caveman, and do not know that answer.
Will echo others, a pic could be helpful.
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All my labels are color matched so (if I understand the description) I have no dog in the fight
Same here @Pokerdweebz but I wouldn’t mind some reassurance, lol
I believe this to be correct. Only chips using white labels (regardless of the base chip color) would be impacted, unless the base chip color was white.
And the white on white seems to be no issue at all
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OldWestPokerSupplies
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Just to assure everyone we are working on a solution to this. I'm glad this came up before the print run so that we could address it at the outset.
I'll get back to you guys soon.
I'll get back to you guys soon.
Mental Nomad
Full House
This should be MOSTLY correct.
If the printed labels are more opaque than labels with white, then the impact is lessened - perhaps dramatically lessened - but not eliminated. If the label itself can show through some color, it's likely still happening in printed areas.
For example, consider one coat of red paint on a white wall versus two coats... with two coats, you'll get a deeper red. Same here: red label on red chip will be a deeper, darker red than red label on a white chip... but perhaps only every so slightly. Certainly, less of the under-color will show through because the red ink on the label is more opaque than the plain label, but is it 100% more opaque? If not, there may be a slight different.
What's more important, though, even on the color-matched designs, there are white sections, like the denom! The white section will either be white-on-white if placed on a white-center chip, or white-on-color if the chip is colored. Again, much depends on exactly how much shows through the label - we may not be able to notice, even though the white denom picks up a very slight tint, because it's in the middle of a label full of that whole color. It may still look white. (It may even look better with a slight tint, for all I know.)
I hate to complicate things, but I think that's the reality of the situation. Some test pics under high-powered lights might help
We don't need new prints - if you can just adhere some labels onto already-printed rims of chips, Sal, you should be able to see how much shows through with a really bright light.
And compare them to some test chips with labels on un-printed chips (even blanks).
Examples....
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