Shaggy
Full House
There was some discussion a few months back about the CPC Jockey mold and its similarities to the Paulson H&C.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ions-on-chip-performance-thickness-etc.18400/
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...e-to-fall-in-love-with-the-jockey-mold.10700/
For some time now, the idea of getting a rack of actual casino dimes has been appealing... but at $275 a rack, that's pretty prohibitive. This is our opportunity to get a rack (or two) of fractionals that will work well with a mixed set of TH&C Paulson Casino chips.
The names and denominations were selected in the design thread below... so we are past that stage.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...fractionals-group-design-and-group-buy.19873/
COST:
The cost per chip is based on the following factors (per the CPC website):
Solid Jockey mold chip: $1.05 per chip
Hotstamp process: $0.14 per chip
Hotstamp Setup Fee (initial): $26
Hotstamp Setup Fee (subsequent changes): $10.50
Hotstamp Die cost (assumed): $80
@David Spragg has expressed that we won't know the final per chip price until the order is placed. This is due to manufacturing factors pertaining to the subsequent charges on hotstamp setup and change out. Essentially, there are costs associated with using the same stamp on a different color chip, so it is not obvious up front if your batch will require the subsequent change charge of $10.50. Therefore the approximate cost below is based on the following assumptions:
1. Order assumes 720 total chips are ordered (6 participants ordering 120 each)
2. $26 setup fee for the first batch is broken into a $10.50 fee and a $15.50 fee. The $10.50 is applied to your order and the $15.50 is divided amongst the entire group. The $10.50 covers the cost of subsequent changes as well.
3. 2 participants for a given die design. Cost per participant is 80/2 = 40 or 40c per chip (100 chips).
4. $60 shipping from CPC to my location. This is divided on a per chip basis by participants.
Example:
I decide to order 120x Silver Shoe nickels. With the assumptions above, my cost is:
120x $1.05 = $126 (base chip cost)
120x $0.14 = $16.8 (hotstamping process)
120x ($15.50/720) = $2.58 (shared initial setup fee)
$10.50 (subsequent setup charge)
$80/2 = $40 (die cost)
120x ($60/720) = $10 (shared shipping fee)
Total cost for 120 chips: $195.38 or $1.63 per chip
Obviously this is an approximate cost and dependent on several factors. The primary factor is the die cost. With a third participant on that design, the cost drops to ~$181. If it turns out that your batch does not require the subsequent hotstamp setup fee, your cost would be reduced in that the prior run setup fee is shared between you and that participant. Example, you order the same color as another buyer. You share the $10.50 cost.
I think the cost listed above is a reasonable approximation. Please place orders with this in mind.
COLORS:
All colors are available for this order. You, THE BUYER, get to pick which color you want. The minimum order of a given color is 100. I recommend ordering at least 110 chips.
If you want to tinker with the chip design tool to help you determine your preferred color, I can send you the artwork file. Just PM me.
ORDERING INSTRUCTIONS:
This is the order thread, and as such, this is a commitment. I will keep the order thread open until July 1. At that point I will compute the preliminary cost based on the actual orders and collect funds. I expect to have funds collected by July 8 and place the order on July 10.
Please place orders only in this thread, and post only once. Edit your post rather than making a new one. Discussion should be contained in the design thread. Let's keep discussion in this thread to a minimum. Limited only to discussion pertaining to questions on ordering.
Place orders using the following format:
Denomination:
Quantity:
Chip Color:
Hotstamp Foil Color:
If you want sample sets, or a quantity less than 100. Post in this thread with your order. For quantities less than 100, you are limited to piggybacking on someone else's order.
Sample Costs:
$1.40 per chip Silver Shoe Nickel
$1.50 per chip Silver Shoe Quarter
$2.00 per chip Red's Tavern Dime.
DESIGNS:
Silver Shoe Nickel:
Silver Shoe Quarter:
Red's Tavern Dime:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...ions-on-chip-performance-thickness-etc.18400/
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...e-to-fall-in-love-with-the-jockey-mold.10700/
For some time now, the idea of getting a rack of actual casino dimes has been appealing... but at $275 a rack, that's pretty prohibitive. This is our opportunity to get a rack (or two) of fractionals that will work well with a mixed set of TH&C Paulson Casino chips.
The names and denominations were selected in the design thread below... so we are past that stage.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...fractionals-group-design-and-group-buy.19873/
COST:
The cost per chip is based on the following factors (per the CPC website):
Solid Jockey mold chip: $1.05 per chip
Hotstamp process: $0.14 per chip
Hotstamp Setup Fee (initial): $26
Hotstamp Setup Fee (subsequent changes): $10.50
Hotstamp Die cost (assumed): $80
@David Spragg has expressed that we won't know the final per chip price until the order is placed. This is due to manufacturing factors pertaining to the subsequent charges on hotstamp setup and change out. Essentially, there are costs associated with using the same stamp on a different color chip, so it is not obvious up front if your batch will require the subsequent change charge of $10.50. Therefore the approximate cost below is based on the following assumptions:
1. Order assumes 720 total chips are ordered (6 participants ordering 120 each)
2. $26 setup fee for the first batch is broken into a $10.50 fee and a $15.50 fee. The $10.50 is applied to your order and the $15.50 is divided amongst the entire group. The $10.50 covers the cost of subsequent changes as well.
3. 2 participants for a given die design. Cost per participant is 80/2 = 40 or 40c per chip (100 chips).
4. $60 shipping from CPC to my location. This is divided on a per chip basis by participants.
Example:
I decide to order 120x Silver Shoe nickels. With the assumptions above, my cost is:
120x $1.05 = $126 (base chip cost)
120x $0.14 = $16.8 (hotstamping process)
120x ($15.50/720) = $2.58 (shared initial setup fee)
$10.50 (subsequent setup charge)
$80/2 = $40 (die cost)
120x ($60/720) = $10 (shared shipping fee)
Total cost for 120 chips: $195.38 or $1.63 per chip
Obviously this is an approximate cost and dependent on several factors. The primary factor is the die cost. With a third participant on that design, the cost drops to ~$181. If it turns out that your batch does not require the subsequent hotstamp setup fee, your cost would be reduced in that the prior run setup fee is shared between you and that participant. Example, you order the same color as another buyer. You share the $10.50 cost.
I think the cost listed above is a reasonable approximation. Please place orders with this in mind.
COLORS:
All colors are available for this order. You, THE BUYER, get to pick which color you want. The minimum order of a given color is 100. I recommend ordering at least 110 chips.
If you want to tinker with the chip design tool to help you determine your preferred color, I can send you the artwork file. Just PM me.
ORDERING INSTRUCTIONS:
This is the order thread, and as such, this is a commitment. I will keep the order thread open until July 1. At that point I will compute the preliminary cost based on the actual orders and collect funds. I expect to have funds collected by July 8 and place the order on July 10.
Please place orders only in this thread, and post only once. Edit your post rather than making a new one. Discussion should be contained in the design thread. Let's keep discussion in this thread to a minimum. Limited only to discussion pertaining to questions on ordering.
Place orders using the following format:
Denomination:
Quantity:
Chip Color:
Hotstamp Foil Color:
If you want sample sets, or a quantity less than 100. Post in this thread with your order. For quantities less than 100, you are limited to piggybacking on someone else's order.
Sample Costs:
$1.40 per chip Silver Shoe Nickel
$1.50 per chip Silver Shoe Quarter
$2.00 per chip Red's Tavern Dime.
DESIGNS:
Silver Shoe Nickel:
Silver Shoe Quarter:
Red's Tavern Dime:
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