grebe
Full House
oof.That flop hits our range pretty well. I c-bet $60.
oof.That flop hits our range pretty well. I c-bet $60.
I think a $20 bet into a $100 pot is too small. A lot of missed hands will still call, and probably have the correct odds to do so. Also, it is so small it seems like a sizing tell, and is begging for a raise by any aggressive player.Board is good for our range, plus we have a gutter. Bet small here with all our holdings. Another $20.
EDIT to add: I am betting here in order to get other missed hands to fold out their equity and check back a turn that doesn't improve us. Also, if we happen to bink that gutter, the pot will be larger and we can get paid. Folding to any aggression though.
Maybe....but $60 is lighting money on fire. I would make the same bet here with KK as I would with AJ....Maybe $30-35 is a better number, but I think any more than that is losing money when we have to fold.I think a $20 bet into a $100 pot is too small. A lot of missed hands will still call, and probably have the correct odds to do so. Also, it is so small it seems like a sizing tell, and is begging for a raise by any aggressive player.
I agree if there is any aggression we need to fold.
I'm fine with a smaller bet than $60, but I think $40 is the minimum on a $100 pot. anything less than that we might as well check (which is ok too, we dont have to c-bet every time here in this spot). Quite honestly, I c-bet probably 75% of the time and check 25% of the time here.Maybe....but $60 is lighting money on fire. I would make the same bet here with KK as I would with AJ....Maybe $30-35 is a better number, but I think any more than that is losing money when we have to fold.
I would check before betting 2/3 pot in to 5 players.I'm fine with a smaller bet than $60, but I think $40 is the minimum on a $100 pot. anything less than that we might as well check (which is ok too, we dont have to c-bet every time here in this spot). Quite honestly, I c-bet probably 75% of the time and check 25% of the time here.
In this spot that should be opposite in my opinion. C bet rarely here with no pair in a 5 way flop.I'm fine with a smaller bet than $60, but I think $40 is the minimum on a $100 pot. anything less than that we might as well check (which is ok too, we dont have to c-bet every time here in this spot). Quite honestly, I c-bet probably 75% of the time and check 25% of the time here.
Cant argue with that.In this spot that should be opposite in my opinion. C bet rarely here with no pair in a 5 way flop.
There is just too much chance that someone has a good hand. Try to get a free card, and if you can't, be done with the hand.( most of the time)
My mistake....i just assumed 5 times 20 equals $100....didnt incorporate the folds.Well, if we were betting into 4 players (and there are 4 other players, not 5) I would agree with you. However, 3 of the other players checked to us. The flop did hit our range the most. And it is a good semi-bluffing hand, as we have no showdown value but the potential to improve.
With a gutter and backdoor nut flush draw we should usually be c-betting here.
I think they X to us as we were the pre-flop aggressor and it is standard for them to X to us.Well, if we were betting into 4 players (and there are 4 other players, not 5) I would agree with you. However, 3 of the other players checked to us. The flop did hit our range the most. And it is a good semi-bluffing hand, as we have no showdown value but the potential to improve.
With a gutter and backdoor nut flush draw we should usually be c-betting here.
I love the way you thought this through how you want to play out this entire hand before you even make your first move. Kudos to you @FrogzillaI really like barreling the stack off here IP, but you need to be able to fire three streets including a meaty one on the river (for bluffing and also to get paid if your disguised hand hits) and you are not deep enough. Stupid straddle.
$40 into $100
$120-160 into $180/220/260
Pot on the river which will be $420+
Really need to have $600-800 behind on the flop. $225 not gonna get it done
Check the flop, then check for the chip runner to top off.
I agree that having a stack of $800 would have been better. Wish I had thought of that!I really like barreling the stack off here IP, but you need to be able to fire three streets including a meaty one on the river (for bluffing and also to get paid if your disguised hand hits) and you are not deep enough. Stupid straddle.
$40 into $100
$120-160 into $180/220/260
Pot on the river which will be $420+
Really need to have $600-800 behind on the flop. $225 not gonna get it done
Check the flop, then check for the chip runner to top off.
I HATE THIS HAND!
Is this how the analysis is being done these days? You actually credit a villain with any hand in their range?22 and KT are in the caller's ranges so I think your only outs are the Qs for the nut straight.
As played, I fold. You are getting 5:1, however you have to beat 3 other players. You are probably not seeing both cards for that 1 bet, so you really are drawing once to 4 outs.Made the drive to Riverside Casino (near Iowa City) on Friday. There was supposed to be a Big O game running. Unfortunately, it wasn't running, so I sat down at a 1/2 NL game. Typical low stakes crowd for a Friday afternoon. Mostly older men, and one younger semi-maniac. Lots of limp calling, and lots of 4-way+ flops. Very little 3-betting, and it practically always means QQ+.
This hand put me in a tough spot, so I'm looking for input. Typical low stakes crowd for a Friday afternoon. Mostly older men, and one younger semi-maniac. Lots of limp calling, and lots of 4-way+ flops. Very little 3-betting, and it practically always means QQ+.
1/2 NLHE
Hero has about $250. Main villain (BTN) has slightly less.
Button straddle to $4.
SB calls
BB calls
UTG calls
UTG1 calls
Hero has
So I do raise. Probably a little small at $20. It seemed big as the first raiser, but in retrospect, I may have narrowed the field with $25-30. Maybe not.
Folds around to BTN, who calls
SB folds
BB calls
UTG calls
UTG1 calls
Pot $100
Flop
Checks to hero.
Hero decides to check, hoping to peel a free (or at least cheap) card.
BTN bet $55
BB calls
UTG folds
UTG1 calls
Pot $265
Action on hero. Easy call getting 5:1?
Without knowing players tendencies, I have the following generic observations.Hero's eyes were bigger than his stomach, and the $265 enticed him to make a call.
Pot $310. Hero has about $170 behind.
Turn
Hero now has a nut flush draw to go with the gutter and one over card.
I never considered that an A would give me the best hand, as there were a couple sets (TT and 22) and two pair hands, plus AKo in villain's range. KQ and KJ were possibilities, but unlikely.
Action on hero.