playing 67s (1 Viewer)

[Xbrm2290X]

Hey guys! This is a hand my friend played and asked me to post it her to see what other people have to say as he is not really into forums.

Hero is "pretty sure" the hand played out this way. Sometimes doesn't remember everything abouth the hand.

Hero is tight aggessive, sometimes on the looser side. Aggressive preflop in position. Has a wide range in position. Isn't scared to see a flop.

Villian is loose preflop, calls raises preflop with a super wide range in any position. Will bet draws.

Live $1/$2 NLHE

Hero is UTG +1 Calls live straddle $4, with 6d7d ($175)

Folds around to Villian OTB and calls, BB raises to $15, Straddle (UTG) folds, Hero calls, Villian calls

Flop: 6 6 3

BB moves all in for $60

Hero goes all in.

Villian calls all in

The Turn: 2
The River: 2

BB shows QQ's, Hero Shows 6's full, Villian shows 6 3 and proudly announces "i have a bigger fullhouse"

 

[BGinGA]

Fold pre-flop. Both times.

 

[thorwilliam]

Fold pre-flop. Both times.

Agree, interesting line for a "TAG".

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

Probably a fold pre for 1/12th of your stack, but once you call pre it's just a cooler. Nothing you can do.

 

[jbutler]

I remember an episode of HSP when Barry folded AK to a raise preflop and Gabe Kaplan said, "See kids, you don't have to play ace king." People should remember the same thing about small suited connectors. There's no reason at all you should be getting involved with 67s OOP with your stack size (and likely theirs).

Your friend should rethink what he's trying to do against a raiser who puts in $15 of a $75 stack preflop. He's the first caller, so it's not as if he's targeting a deeper stack in between him and the raiser (which would be a terrible play in any case). BB almost always has a big value hand here. He raised $11 more over two callers of a $4 straddle. He's obviously looking for action. 67s plays terribly against his range. The absolute best hope for 67s is that BB has AK and 67s gets lucky and flops and pair and gets doubly lucky and AK doesn't.

He needs effective stacks to be something like $400 minimum to make this call and even then I'm not a huge fan OOP. In this scenario it's not even close. It's an atrocious call every single time.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

I remember an episode of HSP when Barry folded AK to a raise preflop and Gabe Kaplan said, "See kids, you don't have to play ace king." People should remember the same thing about small suited connectors. There's no reason at all you should be getting involved with 67s OOP with your stack size (and likely theirs).

Your friend should rethink what he's trying to do against a raiser who puts in $15 of a $75 stack preflop. He's the first caller, so it's not as if he's targeting a deeper stack in between him and the raiser (which would be a terrible play in any case). BB almost always has a big value hand here. He raised $11 more over two callers of a $4 straddle. He's obviously looking for action. 67s plays terribly against his range. The absolute best hope for 67s is that BB has AK and 67s gets lucky and flops and pair and gets doubly lucky and AK doesn't.

He needs effective stacks to be something like $400 minimum to make this call and even then I'm not a huge fan OOP. In this scenario it's not even close. It's an atrocious call every single time.

I mean, you're still calling with it.

 

[jbutler]

I mean, you're still calling with it.

Natch.

But seriously, you might not believe me, but I'm folding it in non-donkariffic meetup or MA/NH games. Which is hilarious since they play bigger than casino $1/2, but such is the life of a moron.

 

[DrStrange]

The whole hand is played out preflop.

Stacks are too short for Hero to do anything but fold.

Post flop, hero is playing for stacks and happy to do so.

 

[AlPresidente]

1st action, fold>raise>>>>call.
2nd action, fold>>>>>>raise>call.

On a rainbow board, I slightly prefer a check on the flop to try and keep villain in the hand, not that it makes any difference in this instance.

 

[Mental Nomad]

Hey guys! This is a hand my friend played and asked me to post it her to see what other people have to say as he is not really into forums.

OK!

Hero is tight aggessive.

Got it, hero is tight aggressive.

Has a wide range in position. Isn't scared to see a flop.

Hero isn't tight.

Hero is UTG +1 Calls live straddle $4, with 6d7d ($175)

Hero is loose.

Folds around to Villian OTB and calls, BB raises to $15, Straddle (UTG) folds, Hero calls, Villian calls

Hero is out behind the gym with pants down around ankles.

BB shows QQ's, Hero Shows 6's full, Villian shows 6 3 and proudly announces "i have a bigger fullhouse"

So hero was behind by a mile when calling pre-flop, and was losing from flop onwards. That's common for loose players.

UTG indicated they had a random hand by posting a straddle. 76s is behind to a random hand, 55:45. So the limp is already bad. Even if you presume BB will just call the straddle, Hero is behind to two random hands, 32:34:34.

76s is a speculative hand for getting in late for cheap when there are lots of players, provided hero and opponents have deep enough stacks to get paid off if the train comes in... or for a late steal. Not for calling raises pre-flop.

 

[SteveHNo96]

I personally find that the mid-level suited connectors (87s, 76s, 65s) are probably the toughest hands to play. Some say play them if you can see the flop for cheap, others say throw it away, while still others suggest those are bluffing hands and you should raise.

Here's what I would have done.

pre-flop: UTG+1 is no position to play this hand. I would do it if I was nearer to the blinds or the big blind. The fact there was a re-raise is kinda a red flag to me. you should have let this one go. Throw the cards away for anything over the $4.

flop: A set is a decent hand, but there are still ways to lose it. I don't think I could have gone all in with a set, if the betting was that massive. Maybe if you had pushed all in early on, you could have scared out the 6 3 before the flop but if someone just says "I'm all in", that is either a gigantic bluff or a major hit. I wouldn't take that risk.

as a side note, is it just me or does Villain just seem like an idiot betting that much pre-flop with garbage cards? He honestly just got lucky. The QQ had the cards to make that kind of move, but the villain didn't.

 

[Adam Crowley]

There are many variables taken into account with hand selection. One hand can be played many different ways. 87s for example can be played in all the ways you described

 

[onerand]

This is a cooler, but if hero is going to play this hand, he should open with a raise