Poll: Mixing CPC Weighted and Non-Weighted (1 Viewer)

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Hello! I used the search function but wanted to consolidate some opinions, plus a poll about the weights of CPC colors. @Himewad 's 500 piece is gorgeous and dayglo, but I'll need to add some weighted colors also. Should I be concerned about mixing these two types?

Below are some opinions I found rooting around, just checking to see whether there's a concensus on this.

@AZBOARDER13 I don't have a scale but I would say it's not an issue. The non-weighteds are lighter by the hand scale if you are comparing them chip to chip, but once you get them in a set it is not really noticeable. You can really only tell if you are trying to tell the difference. I think the bigger difference is the appearance of the brass flakes or not in weighted vs. unweighted chips which is the biggest reason I do not have a canary chip in the lineup.

I suppose it depends what you are used to. If leaded THC is your flavor then yes across the board. If TCR RHCs then not so much.

There is a noticeable difference in that weighty feel shuffling the chocolate dimes and blurple 20s vs the $5s in my set for example.

I’m not obsessed with weight but they felt a tad light when I first received them. After handling them for a bit that noticeable weight went away. Mold plays a huge part in feel as well.

That said I got hung up on the not mixing weighted and not weighted together and after several sets from CPC, in play and overall look it doesn't make a difference. I say don't limit your choices because of it.

Im mainly worried about the brass flakes but maybe that is just not an issue...

The weight difference is so subtle- go with the colors you like.

Seems everything is pointing to just use the colors you like and don't worry too much about the difference in weight. I'm not a leaded-THC-only person so I'm hoping I won't even notice it. Very excited, eventually gunning for a custom hotstamp set on CPC so I'm daydreaming already. Thanks for any input. Any "yes, I would change my mind" please make sure to comment why, if you've had experience in the past or anything.

 

[krafticus]

Both of my custom sets have a mix of DG and weighted colors. 99% of people can't tell the difference. I can't tell the difference in weight either.

I say, get what makes you happiest

 

[quintooo]

I'm in the process of making my own custom CPC; go with the colors you like 99% of the time. Some of the best CPC sets mix weighted and unweighted colors, and having played with a couple, I don't really notice a difference.

 

[JMC9389]

Mix 'em up. The weight between denoms is negligible. Though depending on the mold, I do feel a difference between a set with unweighted and weighted colors.

For example, @72o 's Knollwoods use all weighted base colors on the A-mold. After an afternoon playing on my Ironbound Lounge chips with all unweighted base colors on the DSQ mold, his chips felt a bit noticeably heavier when we felted them later that night. It's not a bad thing, however. I think mold choice matters way more in terms of feel than base color choice.

 

[TKEUofM]

Both of my sets are mixed and I can't tell any difference.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Damn! Good to see everyone still in agreeance, hope this helps the next mook searching for the answer. I'll leave this up for any Yes's that may arise.

I'm in the process of making my own custom CPC; go with the colors you like 99% of the time. Some of the best CPC sets mix weighted and unweighted colors, and having played with a couple, I don't really notice a difference.

I gotta ask, do you have an example of the 1% that you wouldnt mix for? Just curious.

 

[Himewad]

Per the CPC website, the difference between a weighted chip and a non-weighted chip is 0.5 grams per chip, or 10 grams per barrel. That's equivalent to about 0.35 ounces.

I would guess that the vast majority of people would not be able to tell the difference.

And even if I could tell the difference, the appearance of the chips is much more important to me than one-third of an ounce difference per barrel.

 

[quintooo]

Damn! Good to see everyone still in agreeance, hope this helps the next mook searching for the answer. I'll leave this up for any Yes's that may arise.

I gotta ask, do you have an example of the 1% that you wouldnt mix for? Just curious.

no example that I can think of. I imagine the only time you wouldn't use the unweighted colors is if cost was an issue. And that's really only for base color; you can still use unweighted as spot colors without added premium. The weight difference as a spot color is probably (?) negligible.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

no example that I can think of. I imagine the only time you wouldn't use the unweighted colors is if cost was an issue. And that's really only for base color; you can still use unweighted as spot colors without added premium. The weight difference as a spot color is probably (?) negligible.

Good call. Okay, I appreciate the input. Yeah I'm not wealthy but an extra 15cent per chip is very doable if I'm already dropping $1000+

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

WOW, zip em up! Okay, deal. If the one yes wants to come out and tell us why, feel free lol, otherwise I guess we're done here. Excited to eventually set it up.

 

[Nine_high]

My set is mixed. I can't tell the difference in weight at all.

The only difference I can tell is the lack of sparkle on the unweighted colors, but it's pretty negligible and I probably only notice because I knew to look for it.

Hands down I would mix to get the colors you want.

 

[abby99]

My set is mixed as well. In my opinion, the noticeable difference between weighted and unweighted colors is that the unweighted colors are more saturated or pure. (I hope my color terminology is correct.)

I have a vague recollection of reading that there are weight differences between colors. Using my kitchen scale set to grams (rounded), I weighed pairs of weighted chips of the same color. The pairs weighed between 17 and 20 grams, or roughly 8.5 to 10 grams each. These chips are all on the CSQ mold and have small labels. This little study shows that most sets are likely to have chips with a mix of weights.

I agree that color is the bigger factor.

*** Doesn't everyone weigh chips when they can't sleep?

 

[SteveEH]

I can notice a difference, but only if I'm fondling my chips and trying to notice. At the same time, I can notice the difference between different weighted base color chips too (CSQ thickness variations probably?).

FWIW, a decade ago the idea of mixing chips in a set concerned me. For my 2022 set I decided retro red (along with light blue and canary) was required regardless, and I'm happy with that choice.

 

[maxim_666666]

I have had both. But the bronze flake chips give a bit of a casino feel to me. And I only used weighted colors for the base color for my set. And I am happy. The smartest thing you can do is buy the CPC samples and search the forum for custom set samples. It has saved me a ton of money.

 

[BGinGA]

No issues with weight for mixed sets, but I much prefer an all-unweighted chip set for color vibrancy and appearance (no tarnished brass flakes on rolling edges).

 

[Huskerchipper]

I have had both. But the bronze flake chips give a bit of a casino feel to me. And I only used weighted colors for the base color for my set. And I am happy. The smartest thing you can do is buy the CPC samples and search the forum for custom set samples. It has saved me a ton of money.

Same. As you can see opinions can vary greatly. Also what kind of feel you are trying to bring forward in your set? Old timey look with muted colors? Modern feel with bright colors?

 

[allforcharity]

The weight difference is about 0.5g, which should be more noticeable in an 8.0-8.5g range vs a 9.5-10g range, but really isn't. If mixing unweighted and weighted base colours, you can level out the difference by using big weighted and unweighted spot colours, respectively.

 

[maxim_666666]

No issues with weight for mixed sets, but I much prefer an all-unweighted chip set for color vibrancy and appearance (no tarnished brass flakes on rolling edges).

Yes and no... If the set is rarely used, it can fade a little. This is true for ASM/CPC. Bronze oxidizes.
But as soon as you start using it more often (+ shuffles from players), the set, on the contrary, becomes brighter.
I don't have this set anymore. But a couple of barrels in new condition survived and I found them among the shuffle barrels...
New on the left, just laying in the box. Look what's happening with the yellow, blue and white.
All these chips were in the same batch. These chips are over 10 years old.
They come to life during the game)))

 

[maxim_666666]

Same. As you can see opinions can vary greatly. Also what kind of feel you are trying to bring forward in your set? Old timey look with muted colors? Modern feel with bright colors?

Do they look like anything old?

And I didn't even grease them with oil...
CPC has really bright colors now, people just have this weird habit of thinking they're worse. I guess it's been that way since ASM. But that's not true anymore.

 

[SwissChip]

For a CPC set i would use mostly dayglo colors.
The difference in weight is smaller than the brightness in color, imo.

The best part of clay chips:
They actually get better when used!

 

[SteveEH]

Yes and no... If the set is rarely used, it can fade a little. This is true for ASM/CPC. Bronze oxidizes.
But as soon as you start using it more often (+ shuffles from players), the set, on the contrary, becomes brighter.
I don't have this set anymore. But a couple of barrels in new condition survived and I found them among the shuffle barrels...
New on the left, just laying in the box. Look what's happening with the yellow, blue and white.
All these chips were in the same batch. These chips are over 10 years old.
They come to life during the game)))

Those broken in chips look great! How often have you been using them? For reference, after 10 years and about 500 hours my Casino Nacional set has sharper edges.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Those broken in chips look great! How often have you been using them? For reference, after 10 years and about 500 hours my Casino Nacional set has sharper edges.

I was thinking the same thing! I don't think I have ever seen CPCs with that much wear!

 

[SteveEH]

I was thinking the same thing! I don't think I have ever seen CPCs with that much wear!

Let me enlighten you...

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/worn-broken-in-cpc-asms.20594/

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Oh fuck off, I was so happy with what I've got, now you guys bump a year old dream of mine making me want more chips. This place is bananas.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Let me enlighten you...

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/worn-broken-in-cpc-asms.20594/

To be fair, I think all the really worn ones in that thread are much older ASM chips that came from casinos. I was referring to personal custom sets. I've seen many CPC sets that get regular play for years and still look almost new. The chips in the pic above must have 1000s of hours on the felt. I am most impressed!

Since I'm a bit of a numbers nerd, I'll give some perspective. If you felt a set once a week for 10 years, you might have around 3000 hours of play. But that is still not going to come close to what happens with a casino chip in just 3-4 years.