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Post pics of your completed CPC sets (2 Viewers)

saleen121212 said:
To those of you posting incredible custom sets how much on average was it per chip all said and done? I know there are a million factors but just curious how much some of these beautiful setups were.
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For Club Hel, the weighted average across all denominated chips was $2.79. (Calculation based on set in photographed state, not including the just-ordered add-on)
Cheapest design was $1.87, most expensive one was $4.78.
I could have saved a lot of money if I hadn't decided to use shaped inlays. The per-chip premiums for those are a royal pain in the ass. Could get a 2 level more complex spot with round inlay for about the same money.

For the upcoming Cali set of which I posted the purple $25, weighted average across all denominated chips sans the snapper was $2.68.
Cheapest $2.33, most expensive $4.46.
Left away the shaped inlays and also left the spot levels at about the same.

And for the upcoming tournament set, weighted average across all denominated chips was $3.10 (min $2.30, max $4.65).
Left away the shaped inlays again, but significantly upped the spot levels. (T100, one of the denoms with the biggest amount of chips in the set, is a custom-custom L12)

These are all raw per-chip costs. No shipping, customs or anything else factored in.
 
Nex said:
For Club Hel, the weighted average across all denominated chips was $2.79. (Calculation based on set in photographed state, not including the just-ordered add-on)
Cheapest design was $1.87, most expensive one was $4.78.
I could have saved a lot of money if I hadn't decided to use shaped inlays. The per-chip premiums for those are a royal pain in the ass. Could get a 2 level more complex spot with round inlay for about the same money.

For the upcoming Cali set of which I posted the purple $25, weighted average across all denominated chips sans the snapper was $2.68.
Cheapest $2.33, most expensive $4.46.
Left away the shaped inlays and also left the spot levels at about the same.

And for the upcoming tournament set, weighted average across all denominated chips was $3.10 (min $2.30, max $4.65).
Left away the shaped inlays again, but significantly upped the spot levels. (T100, one of the denoms with the biggest amount of chips in the set, is a custom-custom L12)

These are all raw per-chip costs. No shipping, customs or anything else factored in.
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Nex's example sort of highlights how wide the range can be. The nice thing is that CPC's pricing is very transparent. Under the pricing going into effect for 2019, chips with solid, non-premium colors, on the least-expensive molds with round inlays are $1.25 each. There's a 300-chip minimum order, and up to 3 designs within those 300 chips. That's effectively the floor for inlaid chips. There is also a charge for shipping and a surcharge for some payment methods. Add the simplest Level 1 edge spots (i.e., up to 3 spots of a single color, 1/4" or 1/2" wide) and you're at $1.63 per chip. Things can go up from there for many reasons (many levels of edge spot complexity, more expensive molds, shaped inlays, small premiums for dayglo base colors, larger premium for "clean" bright white, etc.).

Fortunately, except for having to stay within the same mold, you can mix up the composition of your order however you want. You don't have to stay within the same edge-spot level across the full set, and I think you can order as few as 20 of any chip within your order. That means if you are trying to budget, you can spice up your set with an expensive complex edge spot design for a chip denomination of which you only need a barrel or two, while using simpler designs for the chips you need in higher quantities. I recently submitted an order for a $500 cash chip that will rarely if ever see play, so I didn't need many, and I splurged for clean white with a level 10 spot that makes it $4.71 per chip. But the same order also included an add-on for $5 chips with a simple Level-1 314 edge spot that are only $1.87 each on FDL mold. The marginal cost difference between those two designs isn't overwhelming if you're talking about a few barrels of chips, but if it were 500+ chips it would add up very dramatically.
 
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For those of you that have cpc sets, are the comparable to mint Paulson's? I've never felt any and obviously would get samples first. Just curious if anyone has a good comparison between the two. Seems I can get a cheaper set of customs vs trying to build a set to relabel from rare mint Paulson's.
 
saleen121212 said:
For those of you that have cpc sets, are the comparable to mint Paulson's? I've never felt any and obviously would get samples first. Just curious if anyone has a good comparison between the two. Seems I can get a cheaper set of customs vs trying to build a set to relabel from rare mint Paulson's.
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NO!! IMHO, they feel lighter and seem more brittle. Don't get me wrong, I love the hell out of my 44mm CPCs, but I've dropped a couple of CPCs on the floor and they broke and/or chipped. I have dropped a ton of BCCs, Paulsons and TRKs on the same floor with no damage.
 
saleen121212 said:
For those of you that have cpc sets, are the comparable to mint Paulson's? I've never felt any and obviously would get samples first. Just curious if anyone has a good comparison between the two. Seems I can get a cheaper set of customs vs trying to build a set to relabel from rare mint Paulson's.
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If talking purely about feel and quality, then I’d pick Paulson over cpc all day long.

Cpc are fully custom though and that’s awesome and I absolutely love my cpc set, more than my PCAs.

Just get samples and decide which you prefer the feel of. Don’t let cost come into your decision, or you will end up selling and buying a more expensive set down the track. Just save up and buy the right set the first time.
 
saleen121212 said:
For those of you that have cpc sets, are the comparable to mint Paulson's? I've never felt any and obviously would get samples first. Just curious if anyone has a good comparison between the two. Seems I can get a cheaper set of customs vs trying to build a set to relabel from rare mint Paulson's.
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They certainly have a different feel than Paulson chips, which is not to say worse. Their clay has a different composition and slightly different texture. The CPC composition maybe has a little more firmness/smoothness to the surface than mint Paulson clay, which in my experience has a little more "grip" to it. But I really like the CPC feel.

You mention that you'll get samples, which is a great idea. Here's my personal recommendation: First, if you don't have access to someone else's CPC set, order one or two CPC sample sets of their "stock" chips, like the Atlantic Club or Rounders. Importantly, those will give you a chance to feel what a completed chip feels like, with inlay and edge spots. But it will also let you see what some of the colors look like in person. (Between the Rounders on CSQ mold and either Atlantic Club inlaid set, I think there are 12 base colors represented and 20+ colors including edge spots.) If you don't like how those chips feel, at least you know. You can move on, you have some cool sample sets, and you aren't out much money.

If you like the CPC chips, before moving forward I recommend getting the full 38-color set. But I would just go with the $48 set, blanks without the chip colors marked. Have a sharpie on hand, and when the color samples arrive, they will be in the order that they are listed on the CPC color chart and you can mark them before you mix them up. That'll save you $20 over the hot-stamped color samples (which may not be much compared to your overall project, but hell, it's still $20). I also think it's a good idea to get the set of all 15 available molds before pulling the trigger.
 
awwwweeeeee...This thread requires a psych exam before opening....

All these sets are breaking my frikkin heart! I keep shooting myself in the foot by changing the mold on my order, HHR -> CSQ -> Scrown. Now it looks like I wont have my order until Feb/Mar 2019. :unsure::(

Some REALLY nice chips in here, too....
 
Quicksilver-75 said:
awwwweeeeee...This thread requires a psych exam before opening....

All these sets are breaking my frikkin heart! I keep shooting myself in the foot by changing the mold on my order, HHR -> CSQ -> Scrown. Now it looks like I wont have my order until Feb/Mar 2019. :unsure::(

Some REALLY nice chips in here, too....
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This thread might have just tipped me over the edge to ordering secondary/replacement $5s.

Dammit thread
 
mrplacey said:
As a fellow European.. Holy shipping costs! :x
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The shipping costs are peanuts in comparison to what I would have paid if I had imported the chips myself in Germany, rather than having David import them via the UK and then forwarding them within the EU.

And the share of shipping costs from US->Europe isn't even that surprisingly high if you consider the weight of the packages. About $80 for a 10 kg package from the States? Pretty much standard for a sender receiving shipping volume discounts, maybe even a little cheaper than average. What of course did help a lot was the large volume of chips - the shipping costs got very low in relation to the manufacturing costs (about 7% of the total sum).
 
Nex said:
The shipping costs are peanuts in comparison to what I would have paid if I had imported the chips myself in Germany, rather than having David import them via the UK and then forwarding them within the EU.

And the share of shipping costs from US->Europe isn't even that surprisingly high if you consider the weight of the packages. About $80 for a 10 kg package from the States? Pretty much standard for a sender receiving shipping volume discounts, maybe even a little cheaper than average. What of course did help a lot was the large volume of chips - the shipping costs got very low in relation to the manufacturing costs.
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Thanks for clarifying. I thought drop shipping (US via UK to EU) still always incurs import tax to the final recipient?
 
mrplacey said:
Thanks for clarifying. I thought drop shipping (US via UK to EU) still always incurs import tax to the final recipient?
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Not the way David does it. I have no idea what black magic he is pulling there to be able to import the stuff with such low taxes - and neither do I think I want to know. But fact is: as soon as they have passed customs in the UK, they are in European territory, and hence can be freely moved to any other European country without any customs or taxes involved. Free trade within our outer borders.
 
Nex said:
Not the way David does it. I have no idea what black magic he is pulling there to be able to import the stuff with such low taxes - and neither do I think I want to know. But fact is: as soon as they have passed customs in the UK, they are in European territory, and hence can be freely moved to any other European country without any customs or taxes involved. Free trade within our outer borders.
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[heavy breathing]

I think I'll have to reconsider my position here.. Thanks, great tip!
 
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Nex said:
Not the way David does it. I have no idea what black magic he is pulling there to be able to import the stuff with such low taxes - and neither do I think I want to know. But fact is: as soon as they have passed customs in the UK, they are in European territory, and hence can be freely moved to any other European country without any customs or taxes involved. Free trade within our outer borders.
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@ European chippers: hurry up and order now - Brexit in sight!:(
@ British chippers: Keep the UK in the EU! (Let's fight together against country-less, Marie-Antoinettesque E. Commission mandarins!) :)
Even the supposed "free trade zone" with non-EU members like Norway and Switzerland is :poop: - as I found out the hard way upon receiving a package from Norway.:banghead:
 

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