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Rise of the Euro pitch? (New cheating scandal) (1 Viewer)

grandmeme said:
I've only seen them in Star properties. I've been in there once or twice for poker, they are ok but a bit slow in my experience since dealers like to add suspense by dealing the cards slowly, like when they deal blackjack or ultimate texas hold em for some reason.
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Their clientele is particularly filled with long-term recreational players who enjoy that kind of stuff, due to the insane rake of 10% up to $15 driving away from their lower stakes games anyone who'd probably value speed more than theatrics. Even worse at the Crown properties with their 10% up to $25 (!!!!).

The dealers' engagement in it probably comes from the Star training new poker dealers in both poker and poker-themed carnival table games -> the habits transfer over.
 
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SetToBean said:
Their clientele is particularly filled with long-term recreational players who enjoy that kind of stuff, due to the insane rake of 10% up to $15 driving away from their lower stakes games anyone who'd probably value speed more than theatrics. Even worse at the Crown properties with their 10% up to $25 (!!!!).

The dealers' engagement in it probably comes from the Star training new poker dealers in both poker and poker-themed carnival table games -> the habits transfer over.
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Exactly right, I'm not the biggest fan of Casino poker myself; but home games are equally raked just as heavy so it's a matter of picking your poison.

When I went to the Star myself a few years ago, I could only find $1/$3 games running. Was very strange. I wouldn't mind paying $15 rake if it were a $5/$10 for example.
 
I've dealt blackjack from an 8-deck shoe for years. But I surmise even a 1-deck shoe will take some getting used to, as it takes up some valuable table real estate. I'd have to practice to figure optimum placement.

In this case, slippery cards are your friend. Save those Copags!
 
https://www.pokernews.com/news/2024/08/pokerstars-new-game-integrity-rules-46820.htm

One change that isn't yet in place in Barcelona but will be gradually implemented moving forward involves the method by which dealers deal cards to players.

The majority of dealers pitch cards to players, which sometimes exposes the bottom of cards. Hallaert said he and other tournament officials were recently made aware of players potentially using hidden cameras in objects like AirPod cases to see the bottom of cards being pitched and "gain an illegal advantage."

To avoid this, EPT dealers will slide cards to players going forward "so that the bottom of the card that's being dealt to every player is still protected."
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I was watching an EPT event last week and the dealers were all sliding the cards off the top of the deck with their middle and index fingers. No device involved.

Seemed very smooth and natural really.

Commentators noted that they are moving to this method for all EPT games but did not mention why.
 
allforcharity said:
I've dealt blackjack from an 8-deck shoe for years. But I surmise even a 1-deck shoe will take some getting used to, as it takes up some valuable table real estate. I'd have to practice to figure optimum placement.

In this case, slippery cards are your friend. Save those Copags!
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Casino (non-playing dealer) placement on an oval table at Star properties is in front of the dealer but not quite in the centre of the table for the initial deal, then slightly close, front and left of the dealer for the burn and community cards. I've done it that way for a few home game sessions and it feels natural.

As a playing dealer I use two 1-deck shoes for the usual two-deck setup plus a blackjack-style discard tray to store the alternate deck while it waits for a shuffle or the next hand. Probably sacrificing one of a player slot or players' comfort to have that table clutter but it keeps everything moving buttery smooth.

As for cards, Angels are perfect. The Star uses them, and my Angel deck is the absolute best performer out of a shoe for sure.
 
BGinGA said:
Meet-up game security is quite good. Participants are too sloshed to either care or effectively cheat.

All are welcome, but you will be scrutinized if drinking only water or coffee, or passing on the edibles.
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Lol that sounds like a blast
 
upNdown said:
I realize this is mostly humor, but it's a good opportunity to point out that this is a huge problem with poker - the casino isn't getting cheated by the cheaters, so the casino doesn't care at all. The casino isn't looking for cheaters, so players have to police themselves.
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I disagree. The regulator is there to ensure that the games are fair to the player, and that the state / tribe gets its fair share of taxes. If the casino tolerates cheating in any form, including at poker, then the first principle is violated, and the regulator will punish them.
 
JWC said:
I disagree. The regulator is there to ensure that the games are fair to the player, and that the state / tribe gets its fair share of taxes. If the casino tolerates cheating in any form, including at poker, then the first principle is violated, and the regulator will punish them.
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No doubt a state-regulated casino is a safer environment than the alternatives.
 

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