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$300 to 50k on a blackjack table o_O That sounds like once in a lifetime type of run good or Postle run good...I might consider never stepping foot into a casino again. Most would lose every last penny trying to replicate it.
 
The pit boss was way than thrilled that I took the live pic. He told me I would have to leave if I took the photo, as luck would have it was my last hand... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!

Second photo in $300 out $50,000 after tipping the dealer $5,000. Total for 24 hours was in $300 out $74,000 after tips.
Now THAT is a heater.
 
$300 to 50k on a blackjack table o_O That sounds like once in a lifetime type of run good or Postle run good...I might consider never stepping foot into a casino again. Most would lose every last penny trying to replicate it.
I’ve done it 10-20 times over the last 15 years. I don’t play very often anymore. I’ll post some more photos later.
 
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Wednesday session
 
What's your progressive system?
I don’t use a progressive system but if I were going to I would use a positive progression system. That will allow you lose a little or win a lot. Daniel Rainsong has an interesting book on a progressive system if you are interested in that sort of thing.
 
I agree. I should have been more specific. 5-10 5 figure wins ($10,000 - $74,000) on $300-$600 buy ins. 5-6 6 figure wins on $500- $2,600 buy ins. Over the course of 15 years or so. Obviously not every time and not all wins are huge. Not selling a system and no reason to lie. Here are a few more of that unbelievable BS. ( Full disclosure one photo is craps).
Sorry for the trouble.

P.S. Poker player, right?
 
I agree. I should have been more specific. 5-10 5 figure wins ($10,000 - $74,000) on $300-$600 buy ins. 5-6 6 figure wins on $500- $2,600 buy ins. Over the course of 15 years or so. Obviously not every time and not all wins are huge. Not selling a system and no reason to lie. Here are a few more of that unbelievable BS. ( Full disclosure one photo is craps).
Sorry for the trouble.

P.S. Poker player, right?

Can I interest you in a short-term, high-risk, low-return investment opportunity?
 
The pit boss was way than thrilled that I took the live pic. He told me I would have to leave if I took the photo, as luck would have it was my last hand... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!

Second photo in $300 out $50,000 after tipping the dealer $5,000. Total for 24 hours was in $300 out $74,000 after tips.

Spreading to max bets over 3 spots with the true count going over the roof and them not sweating you over an aggregate 24 hr session at the same joint for an unmolested run to net positive $74,000 ?

And tipping $5K to boot. Never heard of any AP who was this generous with their EV, nor any casino who was this accommodating.

Unless you're not an AP, or they did not think you were one.

In any case, nice one.

I don’t use a progressive system but if I were going to I would use a positive progression system. That will allow you lose a little or win a lot. Daniel Rainsong has an interesting book on a progressive system if you are interested in that sort of thing.

Well.....no, to any and all progessive systems. :) You might as well just hand your money to the casino. I think Daniel Rainsong's has been pretty much debunked by the Mike Shackleford's challenge :-

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/challenge/rainsong/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gam...ew-system-double-bankroll-300-10-000-a-day/6/
 
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Spreading to max bets over 3 spots with the true count going over the roof and them not sweating you over an aggregate 24 hr session at the same joint for an unmolested run to net positive $74,000 ?

And tipping $5K to boot. Never heard of any AP who was this generous with their EV, nor any casino who was this accommodating.

Unless you're not an AP, or they did not think you were one.

In any case, nice one.



Well.....no, to any and all progessive systems. :) You might as well just hand your money to the casino. I think Daniel Rainsong's has been pretty much debunked by the Mike Shackleford's challenge :-

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/challenge/rainsong/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gam...ew-system-double-bankroll-300-10-000-a-day/6/
Flat betting is worse than a progressive system. I’m not encouraging a progressive system but you atleast have a chance to win if you dont know enough about AP. I’m almost positive Shackleford covered that in an article around 2009 ish. I haven’t read that article regarding rainsong in years but if I remember correctly wasn’t he up more hands than most people would ever play?
 
Flat betting is worse than a progressive system. I’m not encouraging a progressive system but you atleast have a chance to win if you dont know enough about AP.

Actually, no. The progressive system comes off as the bigger loser than even flat betting. Shackleford has an article comparing the two here :-

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/

I think when you say "chance to win" it really must be qualified.

Over a small sample size anyone can be a winner. In the case of the progressives, the larger bet sizing that return a win has to be viewed in tandem with those occasions when the progressive lost and could not cover the bet either because the table betting limits are capped and/or finite bankroll.

If you read Shackleford's above, what is evident is his comment :- "In both cases, the ratio of money lost to money won was very close to [sic...he mentions a number], which is the house edge....".

So both the flat betting and the progressive are losing systems, but while the progressive won more by comparison, it also lost more by the same ratio that represented the house edge.

I haven’t read that article regarding rainsong in years but if I remember correctly wasn’t he up more hands than most people would ever play?

I believe so.

There was a lot of back-and-forth between him and Shackleford to iron out the rules pre-challenge. In the end, Rainsong was accommodated with some very favorable rules that you will never find in any casino eg, 2 deck with 75% penetration. 60% would be considered the acceptable norm for a 2-deck game, if I recall correctly.

And this :- he was allowed a bet spread of 1 to 1024 units by Shackleford. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: Most casinos, if the table limit was a $5 minimum, it's going to be at the most a $500 max allowable. What this means is the progressive system player can only double his bets 7 times before he is capped by the table limits.

Clearly Rainsong was not constrained by realistic BJ rules during the challenge and yet he still lost the challenge.
 
Actually, no. The progressive system comes off as the bigger loser than even flat betting. Shackleford has an article comparing the two here :-

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/

I think when you say "chance to win" it really must be qualified.

Over a small sample size anyone can be a winner. In the case of the progressives, the larger bet sizing that return a win has to be viewed in tandem with those occasions when the progressive lost and could not cover the bet either because the table betting limits are capped and/or finite bankroll.

If you read Shackleford's above, what is evident is his comment :- "In both cases, the ratio of money lost to money won was very close to [sic...he mentions a number], which is the house edge....".

So both the flat betting and the progressive are losing systems, but while the progressive won more by comparison, it also lost more by the same ratio that represented the house edge.



I believe so.

There was a lot of back-and-forth between him and Shackleford to iron out the rules pre-challenge. In the end, Rainsong was accommodated with some very favorable rules that you will never find in any casino eg, 2 deck with 75% penetration. 60% would be considered the acceptable norm for a 2-deck game, if I recall correctly.

And this :- he was allowed a bet spread of 1 to 1024 units by Shackleford. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: Most casinos, if the table limit was a $5 minimum, it's going to be at the most a $500 max allowable. What this means is the progressive system player can only double your bets 7 times before he is capped by the table limits.

Clearly Rainsong was not constrained by realistic BJ rules during the challenge and yet he still lost the challenge.
We both agree AP is the only long term winning strategy. I'm not saying progressive is. I was referring to the third guy that shackleford mentions:


First off let me say unequivocally I understand and agree with your stance on betting systems. It’s quite simple: If you are at a disadvantage for an individual hand, the same holds for multiple hands, regardless of bet amount. End of story. I know the longer I play games in a casino, the higher my chances of leaving without money.

My question isn’t about winning long term with systems, as we know that’s impossible. But might systems have a usefulness in ’tailoring’ the losing experience? For example, player A prefers that each trip to the casino he will either win or lose a moderate amount of money (of course he’ll lose slightly more often than win). Player B prefers a chance to make a little money 4 out of 5 trips, and lose lots of money 1 in 5 trips.
Both will lose money in the long run, but is there a betting system that might help each accomplish his goal?
"ANONYMOUS" .


Yes. While betting systems can not change the house edge, they can be used to improve the probability of achieving trip objectives. Player A wants as little risk as possible. To minimize risk he should flat bet. Player B wants a high probability of a trip win. He should press his bets after a loss. Such a strategy carries the risk of a substantial loss. Although you didn’t ask, a player who wants to either lose a little or win big should press his bets after a win. This kind of strategy will usually lose, but sometimes will have a big win.



Off topic but I was at G2E several years ago and Shackleford was doing a lecture with a surveillance operator. They caught a guy marking cards in Mississippi Stud. By marking every card Shackleford determined the guy had a triple digit advantage. Dr. Elliot was sitting behind me and I heard him sort of mumble idiot could have just marked the jacks for a 34% ( I could misremember the exact number but it was around 34 Elliot was nice enough to add a couple digits after the decimal) advantage and never got caught. lol
 
We both agree AP is the only long term winning strategy. I'm not saying progressive is. I was referring to the third guy that shackleford mentions:


First off let me....................................................................... a player who wants to either lose a little or win big should press his bets after a win. This kind of strategy will usually lose, but sometimes will have a big win.


Off topic but I was at G2E several years ago and Shackleford was doing a lecture with a surveillance operator. They caught a guy marking cards in Mississippi Stud. By marking every card Shackleford determined the guy had a triple digit advantage. Dr. Elliot was sitting behind me and I heard him sort of mumble idiot could have just marked the jacks for a 34% ( I could misremember the exact number but it was around 34 Elliot was nice enough to add a couple digits after the decimal) advantage and never got caught. lol

I understand your perspective completely and apologies if I gave the impression that I misunderstood you in any way. It was not my intention.

Interesting story with the marked cards LOL What was he using to mark them ?
 
I understand your perspective completely and apologies if I gave the impression that I misunderstood you in any way. It was not my intention.

Interesting story with the marked cards LOL What was he using to mark them ?
It was some sort of luminous ink but even after they caught the guy it took them a while to identify the markings. They basically ran multiple filters over the camera until they could finally determine the markings. The director said looking back he should have known something was wrong because they had a run in with the cheat about a month prior. When they made him empty his pockets he had an empty contact case yet he was wearing reading glasses. They felt they should have deemed that suspicious and looked into it a little further.
 

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