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Stained/Discolored Inlay (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter bsdunbar1
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Did you soak these for cleaning ?
I saw the same effect with PCA's that were soaked too long for cleaning.
Or to much oil...
I saw the same effect with PCA's that were soaked too long for cleaning.
Or to much oil...
Looks like too much oil
That looks like oil interaction with the adhesive under the inlay to me. It will seep under the inlays if you douse the oil on the faces. Folks use way too much oil most of the time. People should only lightly oil the chip edges and very lightly swipe the outer ring of the face of the chip, if even at all. No need to put oil on the inlay portion of a chip.
Relabel or replacement inlay, a bit expensive for these chips but if it bothers you that much....
Relabel or replacement inlay, a bit expensive for these chips but if it bothers you that much....
I was browsing eBay and saw this auction thinking you could always replace the stained inlay chips and then looked a little closer. Coincidentally, if you look at the chips in the picture it seems that some of these chips seem to be suffering from the same thing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paulson-Ch...r-Chips-/253472319661?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Paulson-Ch...r-Chips-/253472319661?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
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bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
Jambine
Full House
That seems most likely. Maybe they were stored in a damp environment.
I must confess, I don't see much difference between the two chips in the first pic
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bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
Dark ring around the circumference of the label, just outside the lettering. It's more prevalent in person.
Jambine
Full House
I see it now. I'm definitely going with Wet
justsomedude
Straight Flush
The top piece of plastic on the inlay does not provide a water tight seal. Soaking chips for an extended period of time in water (for cleaning), or excessively oiling them, can allow water/oil to get under the inlay “cap” and interact with the inlay paper and/or adhesive.
Looks like that’s what happened here.
Looks like that’s what happened here.
^This.
If the water is clean, it usually evaporates -- eventually -- and is not noticeable. But if the water is dirty, it can leave behind contaminates that darken the inlay. Some oils will have the same effect.
It's usually a bigger issue with shaped inlays, but can also occur with some round ones. It also requires that the inlay material be paper or linen. Vinyl inlays (or vinyl labels with protective lamination) will typically not discolor.
If the water is clean, it usually evaporates -- eventually -- and is not noticeable. But if the water is dirty, it can leave behind contaminates that darken the inlay. Some oils will have the same effect.
It's usually a bigger issue with shaped inlays, but can also occur with some round ones. It also requires that the inlay material be paper or linen. Vinyl inlays (or vinyl labels with protective lamination) will typically not discolor.
This is what I found was the problem with the Tropicana 2nd edition $1 inlays. I think too many people were trying to clean them and loosened up the vinyl part of the inlay. I have had some of the textured vinyl parts come off during cleaning so I stopped cleaning the tropicana $1's
Is that what's being described on these chips - clear layer peeling up?
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/paulson-inlay-fractionals.27989/
Yes I believe so. That is why we all need to be careful when cleaning some of the older inlayed chips. If any water bets under the inlay it will result in the infamous "bubbled Inlay" that we have seen in the Tropicana $1 chips.
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bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
If they tilt you that much you can ask the seller for a refund. Explain that someone either soaked these to long to clean them or have oiled them excessively causing the inlay to be compromised. I would have a hard time paying that much per chip with labels that could eventually come off of the chip!
On the chip on the left where the inlay is shiny on the right it looks like it is raised higher than the chip on the left. The chips on the left looks as if the inlay is even with the clay but not on the chip on the right, Is this just the picture?
Damaged chips, and within your rights to request a refund (even though pics may have shown the damage beforehand, it was not noted in the auction).
I wouldn't pay those prices for brand new chips, much less in damaged condition. ymmv.
I wouldn't pay those prices for brand new chips, much less in damaged condition. ymmv.
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bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
Yep
Sorry, late to the conversation. The ring pattern underneath the inlay definitely looks like discolouration from the adhesive. I suppose it could have penetrated all the way to the centre of the chip in a more extreme example.
Oggy
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Im the guy who sell this chips...im not a professionnal of poker chips. But i try to be honest always.
Sorry, for me i write (in the description) "used" and "perfect edge" with some pictures of the chips.
I never was chocked by this "discoloration". For me the chips were beautiful.
For me its not at all "damage" even if i can understand that could be ennoying for people who expected "like new".
Thank u all for the comments and argumentation. It will help me next time to modified the description, to put more details for people who dont look pictures.
Sorry, for me i write (in the description) "used" and "perfect edge" with some pictures of the chips.
I never was chocked by this "discoloration". For me the chips were beautiful.
For me its not at all "damage" even if i can understand that could be ennoying for people who expected "like new".
Thank u all for the comments and argumentation. It will help me next time to modified the description, to put more details for people who dont look pictures.
Pull up a few Paulson inlays.... and you'll find that the adhesive pattern is nothing like you are imagining.
I Think the answer to that hinges on weather that discoloration was visible in the auction pictures.
AWenger
Full House
Late to the thread, but if it's some sort of moisture (and not inlay/adhesive discoloration), putting the chips in front of a fan, or space heater with a fan (but not too close to the heater), might help the moisture evaporate.
I did this once with some chips I had submerged and cleaned, that had discolored due to moisture under the inlay, and the fan/heater helped evaporate the moisture/water under the inlays.
I did this once with some chips I had submerged and cleaned, that had discolored due to moisture under the inlay, and the fan/heater helped evaporate the moisture/water under the inlays.
Oggy
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Thank you guys and ty Bdunbar to open this discussion.
i do an effort for u. U dont Accept a refund after to ship back the chips becoz u want me to pay for the Return Shipping! ...sorry, but u are the one u dont look at the pictures, u are the one who dont read in the description " no return!", u are the one who doesnt read "USED", u expected perfect chips...so look the pictures, and read description.
So u have a part of rsponsability and U want NO EFFORT!...u should assume and be happy , i m ok to make a step in your direction! I want to prove my honesty and u just stay on your wrong position. eBay will decide. Im excited to finish and close this transaction!
Sorry, i have to be clear and to share here becoz you are the one who try to make me feel like a thief! U try to find support on this forum, nice. Its easy for u. im honest and when i sell something, i like to see the buyer happy!
Best regards.
T.
PS. Sorry for my bad english, hope u understand.
i do an effort for u. U dont Accept a refund after to ship back the chips becoz u want me to pay for the Return Shipping! ...sorry, but u are the one u dont look at the pictures, u are the one who dont read in the description " no return!", u are the one who doesnt read "USED", u expected perfect chips...so look the pictures, and read description.
So u have a part of rsponsability and U want NO EFFORT!...u should assume and be happy , i m ok to make a step in your direction! I want to prove my honesty and u just stay on your wrong position. eBay will decide. Im excited to finish and close this transaction!
Sorry, i have to be clear and to share here becoz you are the one who try to make me feel like a thief! U try to find support on this forum, nice. Its easy for u. im honest and when i sell something, i like to see the buyer happy!
Best regards.
T.
PS. Sorry for my bad english, hope u understand.
codeman00
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This was the first thread where I have read of what excess oil can do to a Paulson inlay. I thought they were pretty much impervious to anything being that the inlay was pressed in place.
I don't think we've proved that this was the reason for the discolouration. Still speculative. Possible.
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