tabletalker7
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You are running under the assumption that they are getting removed - once the money is spent (on ANYTHING) removing it is not even in the long term plans
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Tampa Hard Rock Opening Night (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Anthony Martino
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No where close to enough to tempt me to go swap germs with a bunch of strangers
I can't see how they don't. Scratch, snot, etc. is going to get on them and they are going to get nasty quick. Plus as a player I don't want that crap in my face longer than needed.
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Anthony Martino
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They only put them on half the tables, the other half that are closed have no dividers
I think they'll yank that shit down as soon as they feel it's safe from a public opinion viewpoint to do so. Right now they have to play the image game
Wow, this seems insane haha... great photos but... rather stay home and stay safe!
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In no hurry to play under these conditions!
WedgeRock
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Let's all agree that 6-max with masks and those dividers is better than electronic tables...
What was the chip sanitizing sitch? Were they cleaner than last time you played before the shutdown? Did they clean them during play?
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Anthony Martino
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The chips were clean when I got them. My understanding was that they are cleaning chips on a regular basis.
Legend5555
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Well that's a novel f---ing idea!
RudysNYC
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Liability game. If they have the dividers, even if somebody gets sick, the casino can demonstrate effort and expense toward preventing that from having happened. The second there's a vaccine or this virus dies out, these things are coming off. But yea, image game for sure. No way they stay.
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Anthony Martino
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A number of other rooms in florida are opening 8 handed without plexiglass, and using hand sanitizer as their dealer button
RudysNYC
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I'd reckon they're smaller, non-corporate aligned casinos like Derby Lane. Plus, FL basically opened up the state so there's less liability on them, you make a great point. But the Tampa Seminole is affiliated with Hard Rock, a huge corporate brand. They're gonna keep the plexiglass for a while, and I can't see poker rooms in AC opening without them for the same reason. Corporate structure = avoiding corporate liability lol
WedgeRock
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I don't think that's a viable defense... However, the *perception* that it is may have a chilling effect on lawsuits.... Sorta like those "we're not responsible for items left in cars" at a parking garage.
WedgeRock
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How about the complimentary tire rotation in the garage? Was that offered?
RudysNYC
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Yea exactly. The casinos are gonna say "we made it as safe as possible but they ultimately came anyway, you can't now say it's our fault after all we did." Going to make a negligence lawsuit difficult I think.
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Anthony Martino
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I have locking lug nuts now, so they're going to have to work harder next time lol
Legend5555
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Challenge accepted.
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Anthony Martino
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Hard Rock Tampa is Seminole, on Tribal Land. I think you have to go through the Tribal Courts which is obviously not going to favor you is my understanding.
That being said, what's funny is that no matter what they do, it's a lose-lose. The people who want to keep everything shut will say what the casino is doing isn't enough anyway. And the people who aren't concerned will say it's ridiculous and too much. So they're kinda stuck in the middle trying to please everybody.
Walking the casino floor I did see a number of people walking around with their masks around their chins and their mouths/noses exposed. Waiting in line for a restaurant there was an elderly couple and the old guy was upset because a group of 20-somethings behind him in line had taken their masks off, so he confronted them about it asking them to put the masks back on.
I didn't encounter any misdeals. The dealers that talked about the gloves said they thought they'd be harder to deal in but weren't too bad.
The biggest issue was that when a player left the table, you'd have to wait for a "clean & sound" team member to come and sanitize that seat before they'd fill it.
The overhead speakers were too low, so someone might get called and not hear their name (lists were long).
The cashier cage only had 2 windows open, with a "clean & sound" crew member sanitizing each window after each patron. This made the cage line slow.
So what happened a few times for us is a seat would open up, so now we're 5-handed. And it would stay open for longer than a dealer rotation, sometimes close to 2 dealer rotations.
5-handed isn't terrible, but it becomes a problem when 2 guys bust and say "I'll be back" and then one of them has to go to the ATM, and both of them have to stand in the long cage line. So now the table is 3-handed, so we'd take a break, hit the bathroom, etc. and wait until we had 4 to resume play.
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Anthony Martino
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Please take more than 1, my deductible is 1k so I don't get any insurance money if only one is taken.
WedgeRock
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Agree it's lose lose for the casino, but if removing masks bothers you that much, why are you there? And how was he gonna eat with a mask on?
Legend5555
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I just bought a new car with great gas mileage. I can be there in 8 hours. You playing then?
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Anthony Martino
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He was upset because they were in line right behind him and removed their masks, you're supposed to wait until you're seated and eating. He told them he's old and thus at-risk and felt they didn't care.
WedgeRock
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You have to expect the least-common-denominator from the public. So again I ask, why are you there, especially if you're old and at risk?
I'm not asking you to explain or justify, @Anthony Martino, I just think this guy's thinking is a little silly.
Anthony, what's special about 2-6 compared to 2-5? Tnx...
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Anthony Martino
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Hey Larry, the 2-6 is LIMIT hold em. Used to be 2/4 but now is spread limit I believe
The gloves are just stupid, and don't stop the spread of anything, unless the dealer has some sort of open wound or rash. But they certainly do nothing to stop the coronavirus.
Glad you can work again, @Anthony Martino!
Glad you can work again, @Anthony Martino!
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Anthony Martino
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I kinda got mentioned indirectly in this Poker News article:
https://www.pokernewsdaily.com/poke...C4EmFoJ-5uf_xRQTh2em3qCAk7-eQnGxQ6ilhPFDYFhAQ
This isn't accurate. What the reporter did was take the tally of ALL the lists together as if they were unique individuals. So if there's 50 on the 1/2 list and 30 on the 2/5 list they were just adding them up like there are 80 different people waiting to play. But like me, I'm sure most players were on multiple lists. And I was the "stalwart holding out" for the 20/40 mixed game, as I started that list at 6:15pm when I arrived, and it never ran. But it was still on the board at 11pm and I was seated playing in the PLO game. The way they report it makes it sound like 1 guy was just sitting there for hours waiting for that one game and not doing anything else.
I'm the one who took that photo. The dealer complained that her glasses kept fogging up and she couldn't see.
https://www.pokernewsdaily.com/poke...C4EmFoJ-5uf_xRQTh2em3qCAk7-eQnGxQ6ilhPFDYFhAQ
This isn't accurate. What the reporter did was take the tally of ALL the lists together as if they were unique individuals. So if there's 50 on the 1/2 list and 30 on the 2/5 list they were just adding them up like there are 80 different people waiting to play. But like me, I'm sure most players were on multiple lists. And I was the "stalwart holding out" for the 20/40 mixed game, as I started that list at 6:15pm when I arrived, and it never ran. But it was still on the board at 11pm and I was seated playing in the PLO game. The way they report it makes it sound like 1 guy was just sitting there for hours waiting for that one game and not doing anything else.
I'm the one who took that photo. The dealer complained that her glasses kept fogging up and she couldn't see.
I'm not so sure. I've never played an electronic table for poker, but I understand how it works. I've also never played with dividers and masks, so I can only guess. But my guess is that I'd chose electronic over masks and dividers.
Though the comparison is silly, because an electronic table today would still "require" masks and dividers.
Yeah, at my work they specifically have stated that disposable gloves are NOT allowed in lab work areas, you're better off washing your hands with soap and water or hand sanitizer vs wearing gloves that you might not clean as easily.......
Masks I can totally get behind, but the gloves are as useless as the plexiglass screens at the tables..........
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