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we partnered with a premium “gaming mouse pad” manufacturer to develop the interior padding. It’s made from 6mm and 3mm rubber,
Any chance you could talk to them about making custom table toppers (custom art and sizing). 6mm toppers are sorely missing on the market and I suspect there would be a healthy demand for same. Most you see around here are 3mm or less and work best with supplemental cushioning underneath to get them to around 6mm. 7-8 would be even better. An all in one quality solution would be fantastic.
 
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I’m interested in how this Kickstarter goes as I have a friend that started a side business in the 3D printing space, targeting the cycling industry.
I’ve watched him scale up his business without help and it’s been really insightful.

Back to your product with the chip ”deposit box”, I’m quite interested in the size of market for this product. Also feel if you were investing into this product for storage, some sort of stack unit would be your next headache. Being a little on the obsessive side of this hobby the last 4 months I see how guys are making hacks to store their chips. This product could have made an elegant solution to some of the hacks I’ve seen, but this product seems to be catered towards the WW collectors and I’d imagine they’d want a racking system.

Don’t want to be disrespectful but why have you guys never made a small batch to sell into this market here at PCF and receive valuable feedback without expectation of a “finished” product?

In all sincerity I hope the project is successful, I personally just have a few questions but the more people attempt to innovate the better.

Mitch
 
I am by no means an expert. I am, however, a customer. I love your innovation and your “thinking outside of the box”. We need new products. My initial thought was, wow what a cool storage idea. I can put this in a rack system (like a bank vault) and keep everything nice and neat. I do not like the clips on the side. If I am sliding the box in and out of a rack system, they will get hung sometimes and eventually loose the locking ability. I absolutely would buy these boxes.

I was underwhelmed at the chips. Interesting design, but drape in color choices. As unique in design this chip is, it’s lack of “pretty”, makes it a no for me.
 
The empty box with trays weighs under 3.5kg. It's made from 1mm steel sheet. The chips are 11g each, so 500 chips add up to 5.5kg. We’ve also included a double cardboard box setup to ensure safe transportation, which adds another 3.5kg, plus 500g for the dealer button and cards. Altogether approx. 13KG

Another 3.5kg for two cardboard boxes??
 
Love the innovation, look and feel of what you've put together. The design is understated and modern. Nice work!

Will agree with others that the implied target audience is unusual. You're looking for a hotstamp enthusiast who also rejects the classic hotstamp look and feel (a very idiosyncratic combo I'm not sure exists currently). You're also looking for them to reject historic, rare clay sets available at your price point for something commercially produced and widely available.

Your closest commercial competitor seems to be Slowplay, who has sets in the $150-250 range on Amazon. I think if you had sets in the $250-300 range you'd eat their lunch all day in the "classy impulse buy" category. But in the $600+ range you're currently in, it seems you've taken on a very tall order - traditionally not the realm of commercial impulse buys, IMO.

Very interested to see how things go for you all.
 
Not sure what market the chips are going for and what the case is "fixing". I'd need a case to hold at least 7 racks to be used and with the added weight with the current product, Its not a realistic item to use. Faux hot stamped chips also narrow your market imo. The color breakdown is interesting too where I couldn't use it and stay sane.

Good luck on the adventure tho. If you can find the niche, you can have some success.
 
If your research and development have created a chip material that you believe to be great, then we would love to get our hands on samples. If they truly are an ideal weight and feel, then you likely will have buyers here. However, this group likely will not be content with solid color chips. Some yes, but, you would ultimately need to expand your catalog.

If this forum is not your demographic then I'm not sure who would be, I feel this forum covers the gamet of enthusiast. Nearly all of us started in the kiddie end of the pool as we've worked our way through the various levels of chips. Many of us still fondly remember some of our earliest chips... even with their flaws. I realize this forum is a drop in the bucket compared to the "real world," but, what better place to get the best feedback on your product? You have hundreds, if not thousands, of eager chip fanatics that are drooling to get their hands on a new chip. I know that I personally have over 10,000 chips in usable chipsets, not counting the hundreds of single chips collected over the years. That represents tens of thousands of dollars spent on a hobby. Any business person worth their salt should see the value in getting chips to guys like us. In your failure to do so I have to seriously question most things about your business approach, and, by extension, your product.

That may seem "unfair," but, that is human nature.

Kerry
 
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Love the innovation, look and feel of what you've put together. The design is understated and modern. Nice work!

Will agree with others that the implied target audience is unusual. You're looking for a hotstamp enthusiast who also rejects the classic hotstamp look and feel (a very idiosyncratic combo I'm not sure exists currently). You're also looking for them to reject historic, rare clay sets available at your price point for something commercially produced and widely available.

Your closest commercial competitor seems to be Slowplay, who has sets in the $150-250 range on Amazon. I think if you had sets in the $250-300 range you'd eat their lunch all day in the "classy impulse buy" category. But in the $600+ range you're currently in, it seems you've taken on a very tall order - traditionally not the realm of commercial impulse buys, IMO.

Very interested to see how things go for you all.
Our chip set is actually priced at approximately $350 USD on Kickstarter. The $550+ figure reflects the CAD conversion. Kickstarter should display the price in your local currency automatically.

This is odd… how many of you thought the same?
 
Our chip set is actually priced at approximately $350 USD on Kickstarter. The $550+ figure reflects the CAD conversion. Kickstarter should display the price in your local currency automatically.

This is odd… how many of you thought the same?
Now that I look again, I see the USD price is printed much smaller, basically fine print. I didn't see that until you just pointed it out.

Knowing that, I see your strategy, and it seems like if you could get shipping included in that price, you'd be well positioned to give Slowplay some anxious quarters. I'd choose your set every time if it was between theirs and yours in that range.
 
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If your research and development have created a chip material that you believe to be great, then we would love to get our hands on samples. If they truly are an ideal weight and feel, then you likely will have buyers here. However, this group likely will not be content with solid color chips. Some yes, but, you would ultimately need to expand your catalog.

If this forum is not your demographic then I'm not sure who would be, I feel this forum covers the gamet of enthusiast. Nearly all of us started in the kiddie end of the pool as we've worked our way through the various levels of chips. Many of us still fondly remember some of our earliest chips... even with their flaws. I realize this forum is a drop in the bucket compared to the "real world," but, what better place to get the best feedback on your product? You have hundreds, if not thousands, of eager chip fanatics that are drooling to get their hands on a new chip. I know that I personally have over 10,000 chips in usable chipsets, not counting the hundreds of single chips collected over the years. That represents tens of thousands of dollars spent on a hobby. Any business person worth their salt should see the value in getting chips to guys like us. In your failure to do so I have to seriously question most things about your business approach, and, by extension, your product.

That may seem "unfair," but, that is human nature.

Kerry
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback, Kerry. Our launch plan has always been about getting this core community behind us first. We want to build a bridge between the dedicated poker chip community and a broader audience that appreciates craftsmanship and design. In other words, we aim to provide affordable, premium chips for the core poker community while offering a top-tier experience to a broader public.

For context: Our price range is approximately $350 USD, including the Deposit Box storage system. Slowplay chip sets are priced around $150 to $200, while clay chip sets without storage typically range from—well, PCF members know best.

Out of curiosity, how many chips in your collection are custom-made by you, retired casino chips, or off-the-shelf consumer products? We’ve realized that many PCF members mostly prefer fully customized designs or authentic casino chips, which we respect.

Our current plan to serve this community starts with our storage system.If people enjoy our new chip blend (we’re planning to seed some white chips soon), we’re open to exploring limited customization features, such as adding initials or club names to the chips.

As for our design choices—we’ve intentionally stuck to classic color codes to help the general public quickly learn denominations and levels. But trust us, there’s much more to come. We’re just getting started.
 
Now that I look again, I see the USD price is printed much smaller, basically fine print. I didn't see that until you just pointed it out.

Knowing that, I see your strategy, and it seems like if you could get shipping included in that price, you'd be well positioned to give Slowplay some anxious quarters. I'd choose your set every time if it was between theirs and yours in that range.
Oh-oh, The way KS display currency is a BIG/ small problem...
 
I was reading over your Kickstarter page. I like the design/concept of the deposit box case with trays. How would I go about pledging for one of the blue cases and also the addon on the Midnight (Limited Edition) one? I could not find the option to add on the LE Midnight case.

As the chip design currently stands, I believe these would make excellent gifts for someone who enjoys poker but may not be a dedicated chipper. If you add edge spots to the design in a future version, it could appeal to a broader audience, especially those who appreciate chips beyond just Paulsons, like myself. For example, Bud Jones, Gemaco, and B&G—essentially high-quality, injection-molded chips.
 
I was reading over your Kickstarter page. I like the design/concept of the deposit box case with trays. How would I go about pledging for one of the blue cases and also the addon on the Midnight (Limited Edition) one? I could not find the option to add on the LE Midnight case.

As the chip design currently stands, I believe these would make excellent gifts for someone who enjoys poker but may not be a dedicated chipper. If you add edge spots to the design in a future version, it could appeal to a broader audience, especially those who appreciate chips beyond just Paulsons, like myself. For example, Bud Jones, Gemaco, and B&G—essentially high-quality, injection-molded chips.
Thanks for checking out our Kickstarter page! You can pledge for a blue box now, and you’ll have the option to upgrade to the Limited Edition Midnight case in our post-campaign pledge manager.

Also, we’re seriously considering an edge spot design series after seeing all the feedback here, and we’re listening closely!

Appreciate your thoughts and support as always.
 
Thanks for checking out our Kickstarter page! You can pledge for a blue box now, and you’ll have the option to upgrade to the Limited Edition Midnight case in our post-campaign pledge manager.

Also, we’re seriously considering an edge spot design series after seeing all the feedback here, and we’re listening closely!

Appreciate your thoughts and support as always.
Are the chips colored all the way through the center? I.e. if you break a chip do you see the color or a white/other color center?

Reason I ask is because I would assume a solid colored ceramic core would be great for durability and the edges of the chips can be designed "sharper", but would create challenges for creating edge spots. If not solid core though, I would be concerned with damage on the colored chips.

Edge spots would be great to see though if possible. That said after thinking on this more, what also might be a good differentiator is if you could offer a semi-custom chip.. thinking initials (3-letter). Offering that at a good price point could be a great selling point. Mass market customization is definitely something missing today.
 
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I'm a backer on the project for just the case, no chips (or just a 20 chip sampler).

Surprised there hasn't been more action on the page. I just dropped a pile of cash on a custom CPC set and can't find any premium cases at the various poker retailers. It's all $30-50 standard snap cases. Which are fine, even a great value for the money. The "Deposit Box" case strikes me as extremely hefty in a good way and balances commercial bank design with comfortable transportability, sort of like Rimowa luggage that is decidedly durable but still attractive (compared to say Pelican cases which are pure protection for the contents while being very bulky and heavy).

So assuming the kickstarter fails to reach $100kCAD, what happens to the pre-orders? Will you still be making the cases? I'd sure think BRPro and Apache and others would be interested in selling them, even if they're drop shipping from a warehouse under CC's control.

Given some sleuthing here it looks like you'll be unable to get you big chip order in with Matsui (or whoever ended up being the supplier), but all the design work is done on the cases and perhaps they can be made (although perhaps you'll be paying more per unit if you don't hit a certain quantity).
 
Thanks for the support and thoughtful insights—it means a lot! We’re already planning a relaunch in March with updates, including chip design improvements and edge spots based on feedback from the community. We’ll also continue optimizing the boxes to make sure they’re as good as they can be.

Quick question for you: do you prefer the blue, or do you think black is the way to go? Appreciate your thoughts, and thanks again for backing our project.
 
And also... would recommend working with the community to get feedback on spots/colors vs finalizing in isolation. You have an awesome resource here for input and it's in your best interest to incorporate voices from the forum as a part of the design process IMO.

Given also going toward more traditional spots.. I assume you're using sublimiation to apply spot colors? Or are you using a different process technique? Sublimiation is likely the cheapest method, but would be concerned with durability of the chip edges with any actual use and you may need to consider a slight rounding of the edges. I know you mentioned previously giving out white samples, but you really should consider giving out some color samples for that reason if so. Would also just love to see a drop test of a chip, or one broken in half.
 
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Black or bare metal

Blue can be nice, but if you’re offering colors then a hunter green, a deep red (like poker table cloth), etc would be on theme

Blue would probably be preferred by 20-40% of buyers, and it does look good, but it’s not a neutral color like black or metal which lets the chips be the star of the show

Got a 600 chip set coming in a few months, hoping I can get one of your cases in March!
 
Making a poll may be another useful tool.
I have used them in the past for product development with success.
I was surprised by results and they were actually spot on for what ended up selling best after that.
 

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