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The Official Sports/Non Sports Card Pron Thread (1 Viewer)

The cards look great once they’ve been sealed in the PSA holders. On average how much does it cost to get a car encapsulated like that from PSA?
 
Chipnut said:
The cards look great once they’ve been sealed in the PSA holders. On average how much does it cost to get a car encapsulated like that from PSA?
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Depends on the value of the card and how many you are submitting. It ranges from $8 ea to several thousand dollars for just one card!
 
Rhodeman77 said:
This sounds like a it could be corrupted very easy!! Is there any oversight or independent verification of PSA? What is stop someone from bribing someone at PSA $5k to make a 9 a 10? If they are so close anyways how is someone to know the difference other than PSA saying so?

Back in the 90’s or early 2000’s the comic book industry had a major controversy when the price book company bought a comic book company and artificially inflated their values on the second hand market.
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Ya, definitely can be. Most of the corruption happens before the cards are sent to PSA. There's actually an FBI investigation going on right now of guys who have made a ton of money by trimming and altering cards then submitting them to the grading companies to authenticate and grade them, but they're not able to catch that most of the trimmed cards have actually been trimmed lol.

But PSA is a publicly traded company with billions of dollars worth of cards going through their hands every year. It's possible to bribe someone obviously, but you'd have to successfully bribe several people to get a favorable grade through. There's like 4 independent people that grade each card. And each person would be risking losing their job and serving jail time to do so.

One of the grading companies for cards also makes the price guide (Beckett), but it doesn't really matter much nowadays since eBay prices are so easy to look up. That's the real market, and it pretty well dictates the values of all cards. The only people who stick to the price guides are the clueless people who never sell anything because no one will pay what they're asking. I can't tell you how many times I've offered someone $1000 for a card that has never sold for more than ~$950 only to get countered by some clueless seller for $3k to $5k. It's actually super frustrating trying to buy cards on eBay because of it. Some sellers don't care what cards actually sell for. They just make up their own prices. Everything listed is WAY WAY over what they all sell for. It's unlike any other market that I've encountered.
 
Thanks. I read it also depends on the declared value for each card. I have some some good cards from the 70’s-early 90’s. Nothing like a Mantle rc. Perhaps I’ll just keep em the way I have em.
 
Thanks for the info on grading. I prefer to keep my cards out of the capsule, but realize that if i was ever to sell some of my nicer ones, i would need to get them graded eventually. I was debating on getting my Koufax RC graded, but it is off-center with some surface specs so even though its like new out of the pack, I think it would be at best an 7 or 8?, so i will probably not grade it. Do they still have a population report? Also, for price guides, is Becket still the go to guide? it has been a long while since i looked at my cards or the hobby.


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gmunny said:
Thanks for the info on grading. I prefer to keep my cards out of the capsule, but realize that if i was ever to sell some of my nicer ones, i would need to get them graded eventually. I was debating on getting my Koufax RC graded, but it is off-center with some surface specs so even though its like new out of the pack, I think it would be at best an 7 or 8?, so i will probably not grade it. Do they still have a population report? Also, for price guides, is Becket still the go to guide? it has been a long while since i looked at my cards or the hobby.


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I've been out of the hobby for a decade but I think I can answer some of this.

Yes they still provide a population report and I believe Beckett online is still the go to guide.

That koufax has some sharp corners. Amazing condition. They removed qualifiers as I understand it. So likely being off center would knock it down a level. Instead of an 8oc it might just be a 7. I bet yours would easily grade that high.
 
Potsie1 said:
I've been out of the hobby for a decade but I think I can answer some of this.

Yes they still provide a population report and I believe Beckett online is still the go to guide.

That koufax has some sharp corners. Amazing condition. They removed qualifiers as I understand it. So likely being off center would knock it down a level. Instead of an 8oc it might just be a 7. I bet yours would easily grade that high.
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Yeah, the edges are so sharp it almost looks like a modern reprint. It's a shame it is so off center. That is a $10k graded card if the picture was like 1 mm to the left.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
gmunny said:
Thanks for the info on grading. I prefer to keep my cards out of the capsule, but realize that if i was ever to sell some of my nicer ones, i would need to get them graded eventually. I was debating on getting my Koufax RC graded, but it is off-center with some surface specs so even though its like new out of the pack, I think it would be at best an 7 or 8?, so i will probably not grade it. Do they still have a population report? Also, for price guides, is Becket still the go to guide? it has been a long while since i looked at my cards or the hobby.


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I love this Koufax card! It's one of my all-time favorites. It looks like it's in pretty good shape too. The centering and surface spots will definitely take it down more than one would hope though when grading. They're pretty rough on vintage card grades. The centering would prevent it from getting an 8, but maybe it could get a 7? It's tough to say. At least a 6 though, maybe a 7 is my guess. It would probably cost you about $100 to get it graded. Either way, nice card! I'd love to buy it if it's for sale :)
 
Potsie1 said:
I've been out of the hobby for a decade but I think I can answer some of this.

Yes they still provide a population report and I believe Beckett online is still the go to guide.

That koufax has some sharp corners. Amazing condition. They removed qualifiers as I understand it. So likely being off center would knock it down a level. Instead of an 8oc it might just be a 7. I bet yours would easily grade that high.
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They still do the qualifiers. You can choose to either get them or not. If you say no qualifiers, it'll usually drop the grade by 2 full grades for the (OC) designation, as well as the (PD - print defect), and the (MK - marked with a pen), and (MC - miscut). If a card is graded as 8 (OC), the market will price it as on par with a 6. These 1955 Topps cards are notorious for centering issues though. I think this one might be able to pull a 7 grade, which is pretty high end for this set. Anything graded better than a 7 for this set, I would be suspicious of, because an 8 or better has likely been trimmed lol.
 
This just makes me sad that all of the cards I collected as a kid have a fraction of the value. All of the cards from the same era I see above... those Conseco, Griffey, Henderson, Ripken, etc. rookies from that era. The Ripken F Face Card... I have everything ungraded in boxes that I haven’t opened in 25 years that I have no idea what to do with other than hand them off to my nephew when he gets old enough.
 
Bumping this thread because I want to see more cards.

I tend to focus on "cool" cards as opposed to cards with high value totally by choice and not because I'm a broke loser. I love patch cards. For those that don't know patch cards are cards with pieces of jersey in them that have multiple colors. A single color is just called a jersey card. Nothing valuable here at all but still cool to me. Anyone else have patch cards?

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I'm thinking of getting a Ronald acuna graded rookie card from eBay or 2 as a semi investment. Which one or 2 should I snag?
 
saleen121212 said:
I'll take 2 of these. Freaking cardboard lambo
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You can't have two because there is literally only one in existence*. It is a 1of 1.

*Well not really, it is nearly identical to hundreds of other cards they made but slightly changed the color and printed a 1 of 1 on it and now it is apparently worth tons of money despite being basically the same card
 
saleen121212 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Ronald acuna graded rookie card from eBay or 2 as a semi investment. Which one or 2 should I snag?
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Depending on your budget, you'd want to get either the 2017 Bowman Chrome Auto, 2017 Topps Heritage Real Ones Auto (red or blue), or the base cards from those sets. The autos in Gem Mint condition Those are the most popular flagship products that people collect of his. He has a similar hype level as Griffey had back in 1989. The Bowman auto goes for about $1500 to $2000, the Heritage Blue auto goes for around $800 (limited print to 75) the Heritage Red auto goes for around $400, and the base cards (non-autos) from those sets go for around $50 +/-.



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RainmanTrail said:
Depending on your budget, you'd want to get either the 2017 Bowman Chrome Auto, 2017 Topps Heritage Real Ones Auto (red or blue), or the base cards from those sets. The autos in Gem Mint condition Those are the most popular flagship products that people collect of his. He has a similar hype level as Griffey had back in 1989. The Bowman auto goes for about $1500 to $2000, the Heritage Blue auto goes for around $800 (limited print to 75) the Heritage Red auto goes for around $400, and the base cards (non-autos) from those sets go for around $50 +/-.



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My budget for this is very small, but as a Braves fan I think it would be cool to have. Say I wanted 3 cards for $200 or less (preferably less) what should I snag for Acuna.
 
saleen121212 said:
My budget for this is very small, but as a Braves fan I think it would be cool to have. Say I wanted 3 cards for $200 or less (preferably less) what should I snag for Acuna.
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For the old school braves fan: Hammerin' Hank. The card cost me something like 200 bucks and I paid another 150 to meet Hank and get it signed:
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You assholes got me researching baseball cards (favorite hobby from my childhood) and I need to stop before I get addicted to that and poker chips. :mad:

P.S. - Are there any packs/boxes reasonably priced actually worth opening or do you addicts only buy singles? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
saleen121212 said:
You assholes got me researching baseball cards (favorite hobby from my childhood) and I need to stop before I get addicted to that and poker chips. :mad:

P.S. - Are there any packs/boxes reasonably priced actually worth opening or do you addicts only buy singles? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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Yah tell me about it. You can blame Travis for this one. Ughh!

Also curious about packs boxes. My experience has been you NEVER get your money back out of a box unless you hit the insert lottery.
 
@RainmanTrail how many cards do you have? I know nothing about the hobby and probably won't get into it, but I am curious if people collect anything and everything including bulk or just the high ticket items in small quantities
 

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