surferb
Two Pair
@David and whoever else cares.
Perhaps your 20 years of sales, marketing, and negotiation techniques backfired when applied so aggressively. You had been posting for barrels of Point Definace 25 or 100s, and bumping your posts every few days for over a month. Clearly nobody has responded - indicating low supply, possibly high demand. I think it's well known that the chips were priced below market value for the Chiproom pre-release - they sold out completely within hours. Then many of the chips were damaged/lost in shipping, so the supply was cut further. I was lucky enough to get some 1s, 5s, and 100s. In any event, I'm sure the going rate for the 100s is more than the $1 that the Chiproom sold the batch for - I'm looking for $25s and fully expect to pay 2x or more for small quantities.
In any event, the correspondence could have gone much differently. After all of your posts, your opening offer to "pay close to what Jim was selling them for" set the mood to me as a price-centric negotiation rather than helping out a fellow chipper - like haggling over nickles at a garage sale. We were talking about a quantity between a barrel and a rack (20-100). From my perspective I'd be breaking up a rack to share some colored chips. How much could I really rake you for? Not enough to be worth my time packing the chips up and waiting in line at the post office. Then you sent 3 PMs in less than an hour questioning my response and demanding a reply. Believe it or not, I was in the middle of doing other things. I came back to the messages and decided that I don't want to deal with you.
"Anchoring" and other advanced negotiations may be applicable when dealing with large expensive sets. Coming in with a low-ball offer after you've been publicly requesting chips for weeks just felt cheesy. Instead of setting the "floor price" it sent the signal that you were trying to take advantage of me (clearly you've done your homework). For example, had you come in at >=$1.25 and not been so pesky with all the messages, I would have felt that the mutual respect was there. Now I don't even want to send you a package based on how you'd probably respond to anything that could come up (mail delays, email responses, dealing with Paypal, etc).
Nate
Perhaps your 20 years of sales, marketing, and negotiation techniques backfired when applied so aggressively. You had been posting for barrels of Point Definace 25 or 100s, and bumping your posts every few days for over a month. Clearly nobody has responded - indicating low supply, possibly high demand. I think it's well known that the chips were priced below market value for the Chiproom pre-release - they sold out completely within hours. Then many of the chips were damaged/lost in shipping, so the supply was cut further. I was lucky enough to get some 1s, 5s, and 100s. In any event, I'm sure the going rate for the 100s is more than the $1 that the Chiproom sold the batch for - I'm looking for $25s and fully expect to pay 2x or more for small quantities.
In any event, the correspondence could have gone much differently. After all of your posts, your opening offer to "pay close to what Jim was selling them for" set the mood to me as a price-centric negotiation rather than helping out a fellow chipper - like haggling over nickles at a garage sale. We were talking about a quantity between a barrel and a rack (20-100). From my perspective I'd be breaking up a rack to share some colored chips. How much could I really rake you for? Not enough to be worth my time packing the chips up and waiting in line at the post office. Then you sent 3 PMs in less than an hour questioning my response and demanding a reply. Believe it or not, I was in the middle of doing other things. I came back to the messages and decided that I don't want to deal with you.
"Anchoring" and other advanced negotiations may be applicable when dealing with large expensive sets. Coming in with a low-ball offer after you've been publicly requesting chips for weeks just felt cheesy. Instead of setting the "floor price" it sent the signal that you were trying to take advantage of me (clearly you've done your homework). For example, had you come in at >=$1.25 and not been so pesky with all the messages, I would have felt that the mutual respect was there. Now I don't even want to send you a package based on how you'd probably respond to anything that could come up (mail delays, email responses, dealing with Paypal, etc).
Nate
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