Two table tournament with only 600 chips - A Tournament set on a budget (2 Viewers)

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My chipsets are usually a little over the top. 300 T25s for 18 players? Yes please. 16 per player means never having to make change. 1000 piece sets are my standard as they give a lot of room for my game to expand.

Yet, I still remember the early days when my budget couldn't reach that far. So, in order to stay in touch with "younger me" I decided to make a budget-friendly tournament set, with only 600 chips.

To make it work, I had to look very closely at set construction.
  • Start the set at T500s. This would minimize the number of chips that I bought that spent much of the tournament sitting in racks after the first color-up. You need few T500s, because people rarely (or should rarely) use more than a single T500 chip in any bet.
  • The top-end of the set also uses few chips. Their main purpose is to make the top-end deeper as you color up the smaller denoms, otherwise, most of them waste their day in a case.
I was buying China clay @Apache Royals (blanks that I custom labeled). This required buying the chips in lots of 25. Not ideal for OCD, but you have to make decisions when on a budget. I bought the chips in the pre-sale and added @Gear Labels, for a total cost of 68¢ per chip, or just over $400 for the set. You could save money with stock labels, which at the time of this writing are 52¢ a pop. If you have 18 players, that's just over $17 a player. Just bink the tournament twice, and your set is paid off, even at budget stakes.

Here's the breakdown:
Chip ValueAmountValue
50015075,000
1000125125,000
5000150750,000
25,0001253,125,000
100,000505,000,000
Totals6009,075,000

Blinds are also a very important part of how many chips you need, and blind structures are frequently overlooked in most discussions about budget set building. The idea here is to make sure the blinds don't increase to the point where all your chips are coming off the table. How do you do this while making the blinds appear reasonable? Antes. And though I hate antes, and have railed against the Big Blind Ante, it was the logical choice for this set, as an Ante jacks up the "M", ending the tournament before you need to color up too many chips.

For 18 players, the starting stacks of T250,000 are:
T500 x8
T1000 x6
T5000 x8
T25,000 x4
T100,000 x1

This is what I went with, with 16 minute levels, 12 minute breaks, and a 7pm-midnight timeframe.
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The result:
There was a lot of change making, but it worked. It was a lot of fun, and the night ran pretty well, but there was the one gripe - too much change making. The group killed 3 bottles of vodka and then some, so that probably didn't help the simple math of making change.

In retrospect, the BBA was a partial cause of the change needs, as the Ante needs to be exact each hand. I was more focused on a structure that would pass the @BGinGA test for quality than I was in the number of chips needed each hand. 4000-8000-8000 ante fits the structure progression very well, but requires 6x T1000s for the Big Blind to post, or you need to make change. Then, right after paying the BB, your next hand is going to cost you 4 more T1000s. That is more than the average stack holds. An ugly jump to 5000-10,000-10,000 would solve that issue - but it would be ugly.

I could also solve the issue with a few more racks... :unsure: :whistle: :whistling:
 
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This is great.

I am also playing around with a slim two table construction for a CPC set I am going to order. I have never hosted a two table event, and do not have any plans to do so. But I could see hosting a two table cook out event at some point. So I was doing the math on a tight two table set and found it easy to squeeze a T25/T10K set into 500 chips. I also like this because it allows for 12/12/x/x stacks at one table or also a high roller T100 based 1 table game as well. I figured I would share here in case it helps anyone else out. The only thing I personally feel lacking is more T1Ks for on-time bonuses which I find to be very effective.
  • 2 Table T25 base T10K stacks (8/8/4/7)
  • 16 Players
  • 26 Rebuys
  • Includes chips for T25/T100 color ups
  • 500 Total chips needed

DenomStarting StackStarting ValueTotal StartingColor Up ValueColor Up Needed26 RebuysTotal Chips Needed
25​
8​
200​
128​
3200​
128​
100​
8​
800​
128​
12800​
128​
500​
4​
2000​
64​
64​
1000​
7​
7000​
112​
16​
128​
5000​
52​
52​
TOTALS​
27​
10000​
432​
16000​
500
 
Fwiw, for a T500-base set, I prefer 10/10/7/x starting stacks (and using T5000s for color-ups). No change-making, even with a table ante. A 600-chip set (200 of each denom) covers 20 players. Add 200 x T25k chips for deeper games (up to 300bb stacks).
 
Like Dave said...

And If you want to strech a budget....the cheapest option is T5 (if considering casino chips)

200 T5
200 T25
200 T100 (60 for color up T5 & T25)

10/10/7 (T1000 starting stack)

Optional 100 T500 for deepstack games and/or rebuys
 
I just completed a T500 tourney with 300k stacks. I went with 6/12/12/5/1. I hate doing 5 denoms, but the 25k and 100k were oversized and plaques, respectively. Really don't need many 500's.
 
I did a two table (up to 20 players) 100K starting stack T500 base tourney set with Crown Plaza GB a year ago.

T500 x 200
T1000 x 200
T5000 x 140
T25k x 60 (cash $100 relabel)
T100k x 20 (cash $20 relabel)

I like this breakdown because you can do 10/10/7/2 for 2 tables or 10/20/15 for one table.
 

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