What are your heaviest 39mm Paulsons? (3 Viewers)

[upNdown]

Since I got a scale this week, I've been weighing everything that's not nailed down. And @bentax1978 casablamca $100 bricks got me curious. What are your heaviest Paulsons? Mine are these Grand Casino Gulfport snappers weighing in at just over 11 grams apiece.
There should be heavier chips out there, because hot stamps are heavier since they have more clay, right? But the only leaded Paulson hot stamps I have come in at about 10.5g.

 

[bentax1978]

Off the top of my head, the heaviest ones I recall someone talking about were @softchewy's hotstamps RVCL $0.50 chips; I think they came in at 11.7g. He also mentioned some others he has that are in the 11.5g range.

 

[gopherblue]

I have some TRK Riverside $1s that must've been made with uranium powder or something--they are the heaviest chips evah. Oh, wait...nevermind. (Reading comprehension fail.)

 

[justsomedude]

My Burt Co. hot stamp web molds (MD91) are between 11-12g each. Definitely leaded...

Not technically a Paulson, but thought I'd add it to the mix.

 

[kmccormick100]

The small metal "coin in center" Garden cities I have are in the 11-12g range as well

 

[BGinGA]

My Burt Co. hot stamp web molds (MD91) are between 11-12g each. Definitely leaded...

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Not technically a Paulson, but thought I'd add it to the mix.

Pretty sure those weren't made by Burt Co. ..... who incidentally never used lead in their clay formula.

 

[justsomedude]

Pretty sure those weren't made by Burt Co. ..... who incidentally never used lead in their clay formula.

Paulson?

 

[upNdown]

Pretty sure those weren't made by Burt Co. ..... who incidentally never used lead in their clay formula.

Interesting. The only Burt chips I currently have are those wacky bicentennial Harvey's $2 chips, and they come it right at 8 grams. Who knew?

 

[BGinGA]

Paulson?

Most likely. BCC produced chips with the mold for awhile.

 

[mike32]

Definitely my metallic gold Fitz quarters.

 

[DJ Mack]

I'm so confused. Which ones are official casino weight?

 

[manamongkids]

I have some TRK Riverside $1s that must've been made with uranium powder or something--they are the heaviest chips evah. Oh, wait...nevermind. (Reading comprehension fail.)

do you like TRKs or something?

 

[FDLmold]

I read somewhere, maybe, back when the "lead" controversy was front and center, that a Caesar's chip from somewhere came in at around 13g.

 

[bergs]

Gold Fitzgerald quarters weigh 4 METRIC TONS.

 

[Jeff in Iowa]

My Burt Co. hot stamp web molds (MD91) are between 11-12g each. Definitely leaded...

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Not technically a Paulson, but thought I'd add it to the mix.

Actually, I believe that those web mold chips were made by Paulson. Only the Burt Co. and Paulson made chips on the mold, according to Robert Eisenstadt on his website; http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/molddesign_other.htm (scroll to the middle).

I believe those edge spots with ragged inside edges are characteristic of those manufactured by Paulson.The chips manufactured by the Burt Co. had a smooth inside edge, which usually was concave (shaped to curve around the inlay). This is also one of the main ways that Christy Jones top hat and cane chips (manufactured by the Burt Co.) are differentiated from the later Paulson top hat and cane chips (manufactured at their own facility).

 

[upNdown]

Gold Fitzgerald quarters weigh 4 METRIC TONS.

Definitely my metallic gold Fitz quarters.

Yup, I guess that color's heavy. The metallic gold Casino de Mexico 20k is almost a full gram heavier than the others in my sample set, at 10.3g, and I bet it would be closer to 11 if not for those big 312 edge spots.

Here's a chip that surprised me with its weight:

 

[fish72s]

Gold Fitzgerald quarters weigh 4 METRIC TONS.

This was going to be my answer as well. I had a rack of these and they were noticeably heavier than any others I had at the time.
I vaguely remember someone else saying they were over 12g, maybe 12.5g.

 

[BGinGA]

Only the Burt Co. and Paulson made chips on the mold, according to Robert Eisenstadt on his website

However, that is not accurate. The web mold was not included in the sale/merger of Paulson that created GPI. The Blue Chip Co. later created retail chips on the web mold for Holdem Poker Chips (Riverboats, etc.) along with at least one custom set, prior to the company being sold to GPI.

 

[gopherblue]

Gold Fitzgerald quarters weigh 4 METRIC TONS.

Real gold. Natch.

 

[Jeff in Iowa]

However, that is not accurate. The web mold was not included in the sale/merger of Paulson that created GPI. The Blue Chip Co. later created retail chips on the web mold for Holdem Poker Chips (Riverboats, etc.) along with at least one custom set, prior to the company being sold to GPI.

Thanks for that information. I guess some of the information on Eisenstadt's website isn't completely accurate. So it is either BCC or Paulson.

 

[AWenger]

Grand Casino Gulfport snappers weighing in at just over 11 grams apiece.

Very cool. Just curious, how much do the Grand Casino Gulfport $1s weigh? Those always seemed heavier than other $1s to me. (Are the snappers heavier than the $1s just because they have sharper edges/more clay intact.)

 

[Jeff in Iowa]

Pretty sure those weren't made by Burt Co. ..... who incidentally never used lead in their clay formula.

If Burt Co. never used lead in their formula, I wonder who the first chip manufacturer to use lead in their formula was? It may have been TRK small crowns, which I believe they started producing in the early 1960s. I don't know if the much older TRK large crowns had lead in the formula. I think I read an analysis of the TRK small crown chips years ago that found that they had more lead than any other chip produced, and were the most dense clay composition produced. They are slightly smaller than Paulsons, but weigh about the same.

The Burt Co. chips may not have lead in the clay formula, but they did weigh some of their chips with small flattened lead pellets. These can sometimes be seen if the inlay comes off. Many years ago a dentist (Dr. Allan L Myers) wrote an article about how he used his dentist x-ray to x-ray his Las Vegas casino chip collection. He found Christy Jones Hat & Cane chips had lead weights, but Paulson Hat & Cane did not. He also found Horse-head Left, and H mold chips with lead weights, I have noticed several other chips molds made by Burt Co. with some type of extra weight. I believe that customers could choose to have un-weighted, weighted, or very heavy weighted chips.

Below I have a picture of a weighted Willis advertising chip (11.5 grams) on the small key mold, and their "Tri-Heavy Weight" chip, weighing in at 13.5 grams, on the large key mold.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread away from 39mm Paulsons.

 

[upNdown]

Very cool. Just curious, how much do the Grand Casino Gulfport $1s weigh? Those always seemed heavier than other $1s to me. (Are the snappers heavier than the $1s just because they have sharper edges/more clay intact.)

I guess they're on the heavier side, coming in just a hair over 10 grams apiece, but they're not extraordinarily heavy. I grabbed the best 5 I saw. While they're obviously not mint, you can see from the milling marks that they're pretty close, so I doubt they've lost much weight.

 

[duffman]

Got these pink Boomtown roulette's that average just shy of 12g a piece.

 

[BGinGA]

I wonder who the first chip manufacturer to use lead in their formula was? It may have been TRK small crowns, which I believe they started producing in the early 1960s. I don't know if the much older TRK large crowns had lead in the formula.

I don't have enough knowledge (or enough samples) of TRK's large crown chips to make a determination on lead content.

But TRK produced leaded-formula small crown mold chips for Riverside Casino and Nevada Club (among others) in the 1950s.

 

[Jeff]

Yellow starbursts.

 

[rowlin]

A rack of metallic gold Casino de Mexico just registered 1015 grams on our kitchen scale, and a rack of the grey hundos came in at 1035 grams, so I guess mine are about 10 grams each.

 

[justsomedude]

The Blue Chip Co. later created retail chips on the web mold for Holdem Poker Chips (Riverboats, etc.) along with at least one custom set, prior to the company being sold to GPI.

Perhaps... but how do they look when broken in half? And more importantly, do they hold a flame??

 

[FlushBlack]

pretty sure the Ritz 100's have a bit of lead in em, mate hasn't returned my scales since he harvested his plant......so i can't say for sure

 

[upNdown]

Funny thing - I just got some Gold River hot stamp quarters in the mail. I grabbed a handful of them - not an exact barrel or anything, and I thought, oh boy, these are heavy. I put them in the scale, and sure enough, they average just over 11 grams apiece.
It's kind of shocking that my I could just detect by a handful of chips, that these were heavier than the other THC hot stamps I'm used to (by .5g-1g apiece)
Clearly I'm a junkie.