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What constitutes clay chips? (4 Viewers)
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GreekRedEye
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Thanks @David Spragg for the setting the record straight.
Another key factor is compression vs non-compression and heat used during the molding process. Rather than me try to articulate that, get it wrong, and have someone correct me, can you also post the distinction in molding and heat between CPC, Paulson, and mass market (e.g. "china clay") chips?
Another key factor is compression vs non-compression and heat used during the molding process. Rather than me try to articulate that, get it wrong, and have someone correct me, can you also post the distinction in molding and heat between CPC, Paulson, and mass market (e.g. "china clay") chips?
My collection is modest compared to many here.
I'm afraid not. Partly because in our case that is proprietory information, and partly because I can't say 100% on the other manufacturers except that Paulson's process is not dissimilar to ours - just needs less heat as it's got a lot of plastic. No clue what the chinese do.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Put a glob of clay between two pennies then pinch them until chips fall out.
drdr
Straight
Thank you greatly for clarifying.
As a recent first time CPC owner I've wondered to myself just how much clay they had. I had mused that even if they had just 10% I'd be content. To read it is 50% clay/minerals has put a smile on my face, made these chips seem more special.
BigJackJones
Straight
This was your chance to run and never come back.
And now that moment has passed.
What we refer to as 'clay' is more about the process, rather than the material composition, i.e. a chip produced by compression molding.
drdr
Straight
Except from David's post it appears there is clay in them also. Probably not possible to inject with clay so compression must be used. And if you aren't using clay there's no point doing compression due to the cost involved.
Would be neat if we could move forward with certainty that clay chip equals 'clay content that is compression molded'. May have to exclude China clay from that treatment.
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There’s also fibers added to compression chips, I’m guessing the fibers offer the same strengthening properties that fiberglass fibers add to concrete.
The fibers are what make the sharp edges look “fuzzy”.
The fibers are what make the sharp edges look “fuzzy”.
drdr
Straight
Indeed. I was staring at them when oiling CPCs. Was wondering if they reduce with a little light wear.
They disappear with light use.
And it’s crazy how that really shows with age. I’m still not sure why. But fresh off the press RHCs feel great - I don’t love the mold, but they feel like a nice clay chip. Give the a few years of casino use and they feel like plastic. It’s weird.
FWIW, one of my THCs (inlay replaced Aurora Stars) got caught in the hinge of my case and snapped. Here is what the inside looks like:
As I recall the AS chips were produced only 5-7 years ago if that? So this presumably is more representative of recently-produced Paulsons.
It’s flakier/fluffier looking than I expected.
As I recall the AS chips were produced only 5-7 years ago if that? So this presumably is more representative of recently-produced Paulsons.
It’s flakier/fluffier looking than I expected.
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Another view:
(Hey, still stands on edge!)
Not sure why the face/rolling edge is so much darker than the interior.
(Hey, still stands on edge!)
Not sure why the face/rolling edge is so much darker than the interior.
Awesome pics. Thanks for sharing.
But, so sorry for your loss.
Gonna go grab some graham crackers now….
It looks like newer Paulsons are made of compressed sawdust.
Interesting. Break one of ours and it will be the same color right through.
Can you break it again (lol) right through the edge spots. I'm curious how it looks inside at that point.
It certainly looks strange IMO.
I’ll try! I have a vice in the woodshop adjoining the poker room…
Do you have any pics of snapped CPCs to compare?
Not to hand, I'll try and remember tomorrow. I did post some pics before though, all solid colors right through.
Here is a broken DG green solid that's been sat in my drawer for years though.
A third view. It’s possible that the light/shadows are exaggerating the interior color difference but it still looks much less saturated inside to me than out.
Still seems a strange texture. Notice the break in my pic shows pretty smooth clay.
Maybe it’s GPI’s special formula for “NAGB orders from people who think they’re fooling us but aren’t.”
(Some RPC colors have a weird tendency to smudge… New conspiracy theory of the company undermining stealth buys?)
My 2c
Now break the small piece in half
When I get back to Athens
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