Cash Game What Fixed Limit games do you play? (1 Viewer)

[Mojo1312]

I am currently part of a weekly $8/$16 dealer's choice - Omaha-Hi/Hold-em fixed limit game. Players choose to deal Omaha-Hi 80% of the time.

Tried to introduce 7CS one night when we were playing eight handed, which immediately got shot down. What other games have worked well in your group?

Noob question: We cap the game at nine players. Seems to work fine. Wondering if eight would be better.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

An occasional deal of 5-card draw is a big hit for my apes. Can't be every hand but the novelty of having 0 idea what people hold was really intriguing at my table. Obviously split pot version of Omaha as well, or all the way to BigO.

 

[Moxie Mike]

Here's a link to my rotation in a slideshow if you care to check it out: https://docs.google.com/presentatio...lZ6VGJFYkagg/edit#slide=id.g266eb41c2bb_0_259

 

[Rhodeman77]

Here is the rotation I used for my last limit game. We try a new game in the rotation each time.

 

[OzzieJim]

This is my FL Dealer’s Choice list:

FLOP
Hold'em
Crazy Pineapple HiLo 8
Omaha
Double Board Omaha High
Omaha HiLo 8
Big O
Drawmaha
2-7 Drawmaha
Drawmaha 49
Drawmaha 0
Omadugi

STUD
5 Card Stud 1-3-1
7 Card Stud
7 Card Stud HiLo 8
7 Card Stud HiLo Regular
Razz
Razzdugi
2-7 Razz
Razzdeucey

DRAW
5 Card Single Draw High
A-5 Lowball Single Draw
2-7 Lowball Triple Draw
Archie 66+ 8oB
Badugi
Badacey
Badeucey

 

[FearlessFred]

How well does limit Omaha high play?

 

[Labrat]

Makes me sad to think games like Stud-8 would get shot down.

 

[OzzieJim]

How well does limit Omaha high play?

It’s good action. Novices already can’t fold in limit games so the variety of ways to make a hand means you get big pots.

I think it’s kind of boring but still beats Limit Holdem and everyone knows how to play it.

 

[detroitdad]

I am currently part of a weekly $8/$16 dealer's choice - Omaha-Hi/Hold-em fixed limit game. Players choose to deal Omaha-Hi 80% of the time.

Tried to introduce 7CS one night when we were playing eight handed, which immediately got shot down. What other games have worked well in your group?

Noob question: We cap the game at nine players. Seems to work fine. Wondering if eight would be better.

We play almost everything when doing limit. I "try" to encourage guys to call any of the triple draw games. I also think games like Scarney play well in a limit format.

 

[OzzieJim]

We play almost everything when doing limit. I "try" to encourage guys to call any of the triple draw games. I also think games like Scarney play well in a limit format.

I am dedicated dealer at my game. While I personally love draw games I hate dealing them.

If you wanted a really simple Fixed Limit Rotation for beginners I would suggest:

Limit Holdem
5 Card Draw
7 Card Stud
Omaha HiLo
Badugi


Holdem - Everyone knows how to play, teaches limit betting format.
5 Card Draw - Everyone knows the hand ranking, teaches draw format.
SCS - Teaches stud format, everyone knows hand rankings.
O8 - Everyone knows how to play high, teaches players about Low Hands and split pots.
Badugi - Teaches players what a Badugi is.

Once they know how to play those games they know how to play every single game.

Then you ditch Holdem and 5 Card Draw and add the funner ones.

 

[OzzieJim]

Noob question: We cap the game at nine players. Seems to work fine. Wondering if eight would be better.

9 Players too many for draw or stud games.

8 players too many for triple draw games and can cause problems for stud games.

6/7 is sweet spot imo for non flop games. Tbh it’s also the sweet spot for flop games.

 

[detroitdad]

9 Players too many for draw or stud games.

8 players too many for triple draw games and can cause problems for stud games.

6/7 is sweet spot imo for non flop games. Tbh it’s also the sweet spot for flop games.

This... Concur !

 

[churlbut18]

I agree. We have a max of 7 players, preferably 6 players for the limit games we play. And what we’ve learned over the past few years is that the 5-card Omaha variants are much much more fun than the Hold’em and Stud variants. Below is our 7 game limit rotation. It’s just about perfect for us.

5-Card Double-Board Omaha (“God’s Game”)
SOHE
Dra2maha
5-Card Derailment (“God’s Game w/ a Twist”)
5-Card Omaha 8 (“Big O”)
OR 5-Card Ultimate Omaha 8
Dra2maha Low (A-5)
2 or 5 Omaha 8 (“Tahoe Hi/Lo”)
OR 2 or 5 Omaha 8 with Draw 2 (“Bum Bum”)

 

[buzzmonkey]

7 players or less, I offer Badugi and draw games.
8 players or less, I offer Stud games.
9 players or less for flop games.

I think with your group, Crazy Pineapple could be a fun choice. Easy to learn and you can play it 8/b if you want.

 

[drdr]

How well does limit Omaha high play?

My crew like it as a super-infinite micro stakes side game for those who bust from the tournament.

 

[Mojo1312]

How well does limit Omaha high play?

I am not sure how to answer your question. NL and FL are completely different games. I have very little experience with the latter. The game I am playing in has had three different iterations. It started out as $5/$10 fixed limit. That weekly game dissolved when I began hosting a competing $1/$1 NLHE/PLO $100 minimum buy-in game at the same venue. I ran that game for nine months before getting fed up with the responsibility. Too many tight players with half of the table begging me to keep the game going into the am. The other rub is the game would slow down around eleven o'clock due to the amount of alcohol consumed by a few of the players. Just not enjoyable.

The group resumed playing $5/$10 FLHE/Omaha-hi after I left. One of the players, Kenny, tried to get me to rejoin the group. I let him know I wasn't interested in those stakes. I shared with him my opinion that the game would play better at $8/$16. He discussed the change with the group and voila! I reluctantly rejoined the game two weeks ago. I am of the opinion that setting the right stakes is very important in FL. You have to keep the game interesting.

At $8/$16 I won $1100 in the first three and half hours of playing my first night. I maintained the last hour of play. (4.5 hours in total) Last week I won $900 over the five and a half hour session. As a NL player, FL loses its zest. Their is no moving all-in to bluff a person off their hand. Conversely, the stress is removed from having to decide whether to call an all-in when another player puts you in a difficult spot. The obvious upside is how profitable FL can be if you play your cards right.

 

[Mojo1312]

Hero played his longest 8/16 FL session to date last night - 6hrs. Hero got crushed the fifth hour, losing most of his profit. Fortune smiled on him in the final hour when every hand cost $16 to see the flop. Playing six handed, Hero took down two good sized pots, finishing up $455 for the night.

 

[FearlessFred]

I am not sure how to answer your question. NL and FL are completely different games. I have very little experience with the latter. The game I am playing in has had three different iterations. It started out as $5/$10 fixed limit. That weekly game dissolved when I began hosting a competing $1/$1 NLHE/PLO $100 minimum buy-in game at the same venue. I ran that game for nine months before getting fed up with the responsibility. Too many tight players with half of the table begging me to keep the game going into the am. The other rub is the game would slow down around eleven o'clock due to the amount of alcohol consumed by a few of the players. Just not enjoyable.

The group resumed playing $5/$10 FLHE/Omaha-hi after I left. One of the players, Kenny, tried to get me to rejoin the group. I let him know I wasn't interested in those stakes. I shared with him my opinion that the game would play better at $8/$16. He discussed the change with the group and voila! I reluctantly rejoined the game two weeks ago. I am of the opinion that setting the right stakes is very important in FL. You have to keep the game interesting.

At $8/$16 I won $1100 in the first three and half hours of playing my first night. I maintained the last hour of play. (4.5 hours in total) Last week I won $900 over the five and a half hour session. As a NL player, FL loses its zest. Their is no moving all-in to bluff a person off their hand. Conversely, the stress is removed from having to decide whether to call an all-in when another player puts you in a difficult spot. The obvious upside is how profitable FL can be if you play your cards right.

Thanks for the reply, I was more querying whether limit omaha hi is a good game or not, it seems to rarely be played.

 

[Mojo1312]

Thanks for the reply, I was more querying whether limit omaha hi is a good game or not, it seems to rarely be played.

I am a trained NL dog learning a new trick. Although I have seen some big Hold-em pots, Omaha-hi is the better game in my opinion because FL encourages people to stay in with their draws.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I am dedicated dealer at my game. While I personally love draw games I hate dealing them.

If you wanted a really simple Fixed Limit Rotation for beginners I would suggest:

Limit Holdem
5 Card Draw
7 Card Stud
Omaha HiLo
Badugi


Holdem - Everyone knows how to play, teaches limit betting format.
5 Card Draw - Everyone knows the hand ranking, teaches draw format.
SCS - Teaches stud format, everyone knows hand rankings.
O8 - Everyone knows how to play high, teaches players about Low Hands and split pots.
Badugi - Teaches players what a Badugi is.

Once they know how to play those games they know how to play every single game.

Then you ditch Holdem and 5 Card Draw and add the funner ones.

This is brilliant. Especially the progression for beginners to learn new skills that can be used as a foundation to build up to the "funner" games!

I used to think I hated fixed limit. But I started playing in some HORSE tournaments recently and find I enjoy it more than I thought. So now I think I may need a proper limit chip set. What are the pros and cons of using $1 vs $2 betting chips? It's really hard to find large quantities of reasonably priced $2 chips, so I'm left with either using $1s, murdering and relabeling, or custom ceramics. Also, I'm not sure I ever see my games in the near future going as high as even $4/8, so I'm probably good with $1s anyway. Then I could cover $1/2, $2/4 & $3/6. I suppose another option is just using non-denominated chips like starbursts which can play any denomination that I want.

So much for my question. Looks like I answered it myself! LOL!

 

[Taghkanic]

Sometimes 7-card Stud8 (i.e. hi/lo)
$2 ante, $5 bring in
$10/$10/$20/$20

I don’t care for most fixed limit games, but Stud8 is pretty interesting to me. Requires a very different mindset than hold ’em.

 

[Rakrul]

Double board BigO FL is just saying you hate every fiber of the dealer. Also, 5 hands per hour.

 

[springbox]

Have some new players joining us for our next limit night. Normally we play whatever people want to call, but that might be tougher with people who aren't even used to 'regular' poker. Other than Hold Em and Omaha what games would you mix in? Thinking at least one drawing game. Not sure on stud since playing 2/4 you really want a dealer ante but we night not play full orbits of each game.

If we did play 7 handed stud I think 2? 3? chip dealer ante, 1 chip bring in and 2/4 betting limits are what we'd use.

EDIT: In retrospect, I have enough chips, might just cut the value of each in half and play 4/8 limit. Then it can be a 1 chip ante, 2 chip bring in, 4 chip small bet, 8 chip big bet.

 

[OfficerLovejoy]

This is brilliant. Especially the progression for beginners to learn new skills that can be used as a foundation to build up to the "funner" games!

I used to think I hated fixed limit. But I started playing in some HORSE tournaments recently and find I enjoy it more than I thought. So now I think I may need a proper limit chip set. What are the pros and cons of using $1 vs $2 betting chips? It's really hard to find large quantities of reasonably priced $2 chips, so I'm left with either using $1s, murdering and relabeling, or custom ceramics. Also, I'm not sure I ever see my games in the near future going as high as even $4/8, so I'm probably good with $1s anyway. Then I could cover $1/2, $2/4 & $3/6. I suppose another option is just using non-denominated chips like starbursts which can play any denomination that I want.

So much for my question. Looks like I answered it myself! LOL!

You did answer the question but for the non OCD crowd I can also suggest going with $1 chips and just use them as whatever.

In limit you only use your chips to make a small or big bet. The actual dollar value on the chips does not matter as much since you don't need to count out stacks for all in situations.

The value only matters during cash in and cash out.

I've got a 1700 chip limit set of $1s and we use them as quarters to play $1/2 for a 4/8 chip game to make the pots look more fun.

 

[BGinGA]

Scrotum Hi/Lo is a great fixed-limit game.

 

[suchj0sh]

This is a recent on topic thread with some advice I’m looking for, so I’ll ask here:

I’ve got a group of poker laymen who only want to play NLH. We have a game coming up and I was trying to think of a way to at least introduce a variant for maybe one hand a round or something along those lines.

Do we think something like one hand of NL 5CD a round would be a good inclusion? At least give them a chance to see a different game? I’d love to steer them toward some LIMIT games in the future.

 

[OzzieJim]

5 Card Draw is easy because they know the hand rankings and the betting format, plus its only one draw so it is very quick.

The standard "per-orbit" would be double board bomb pots but they're so common they may as well be Holdem.

I would generally try to steer clear of No Limit and Pot Limit variants for new players because they can go sour very quickly when someone loses a big pot and feels they were basically cheated by their inexperience.

Seven Card Stud High is a good option as they know the hand rankings, there is no advantage for button, and it's played limit. so except for a trivial ante/BI nobody is forced to play and nobody can lose their stack.

 

[suchj0sh]

5 Card Draw is easy because they know the hand rankings and the betting format, plus its only one draw so it is very quick.

The standard "per-orbit" would be double board bomb pots but they're so common they may as well be Holdem.

I would generally try to steer clear of No Limit and Pot Limit variants for new players because they can go sour very quickly when someone loses a big pot and feels they were basically cheated by their inexperience.

Seven Card Stud High is a good option as they know the hand rankings, there is no advantage for button, and it's played limit. so except for a trivial ante/BI nobody is forced to play and nobody can lose their stack.

We play .25/.25 NLH. Think .25 ante, $1 bring-in $1/$2 would work? Might be a little too large given the standard buy-in is $25, but I doubt anyone would get too aggressive with raising.

 

[OzzieJim]

The most you can put into a pot with a 4 x cap in stud is 16BB so $32. If you 5 x cap it $40. I have never seen a hand hit the cap on every street.

But I would agree 1/2 is a correct "limit conversion" from .25/.25

You could also make a button ante of 0.25 and a Bi of 0.25 and play 0.75/1.50 or 0.50/1 if you wanted to make it cheaper.

 

[allforcharity]

How well does limit Omaha high play?

I plan to give this a shot in the future to see if it works. Planning $2/$4 (or maybe even $1/$2) Limit Omaha mainly for those who want to learn to play. Could convert to 0.25/0.25 PLO if it sticks.