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Which is the best Paulson design/set to start a set NOW (1 Viewer)

Poker Zombie said:
Right. Common path: Buy dice chips. See if anyone wants to play. People play. Buy China Clay. Keep playing. Hunt down personal grail set.

That said, I bought customs. Tried to find players. Game folded. Found new players. Bought more customs. Bought/relabeled China clays. Bought casino chips. relabeled them and added on with custom plaques. Bought 2 more casino sets. Somewhere in there I bought 2 other sets. Oops, just got a PM, so that may actually be 3 other sets now.
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I tell people that I play poker and I collect poker chips. Those two hobbies often intersect but they are in no way dependent on each other.

pltrgyst said:
Oh, sure, now you come up with the sound advice. Where were you in 1972, when I needed it?
:cool:
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Let's see. At that point I was still waiting for my parents to meet each other in college. ;)
 
liftapint said:
Yes, an idea of your budget and desired set breakdown would really be helpful to answer your question, and whether you are OK with casino used versus uncirculated chips.

I have a few sets in mind, but really depends on budget and condition desired. It actually might help that you don't need $1 (thinking Dunes).
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I am hoping to spend less than 2K, but do recognize that it may be an ambitious project and price point to hit. Desired set would be geared to the 5/10 NL game, hence no need for $1 or $10/$20 chips.

Initially I would try to start with 220x$5 chips, 320x$25 chips and 320x$100 chips (The 20 extras are for reserve).

Condition? I definitely would want very clean chips...the primary Horseshoe's are non-starters
 
When dumping $2000 into used casino chips, the investment in an ultrasonic cleaner is a short-putt decision. Even if you only use it once and sell it on CL for half of what you paid.
 
ovo said:
go after what ever is fresh off the boat, in this case horseshoe chips. There are plenty at great prices. As supply dwindles, prices will go up and chips will disappear .
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I was going to build a set through the Cincinnati auction (or maybe even buy Cleveland's using the marketplace), and I know this may sound odd to the experienced chip buyers/collectors on this forum, but I couldn't reconcile that the Cleveland secondary $25s were selling for $0.99 and Cincinnati $100 secondaries for $3.49. I know you guys are fast typing at your keyboards trying to say how different those chips are and how fewer chips of one kind or another contributes to the market price, and it's about supply/demand, etc. I GET ALL OF THAT. But as a newbie, I expected to pay a similar price for the $5/$25/$100s (ultimately I'd like to have 400-500 $100 chips, which by itself would cost $1400-1700+), and seeing such huge discrepancies, it made me hold back on going the Horseshoe route.
 
kk405 said:
I am hoping to spend less than 2K, but do recognize that it may be an ambitious project and price point to hit. Desired set would be geared to the 5/10 NL game, hence no need for $1 or $10/$20 chips.

Initially I would try to start with 220x$5 chips, 320x$25 chips and 320x$100 chips (The 20 extras are for reserve).

Condition? I definitely would want very clean chips...the primary Horseshoe's are non-starters
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You should have lots of options considering you only need 5-100. Really depends on what you like
 
The problem is that $100 casino chips are more scarce than $5's and $25's, so they're more expensive across the board. Good luck finding any casino $100's for a buck a chip, let alone mint ones.
 
kk405 said:
I was going to build a set through the Cincinnati auction (or maybe even buy Cleveland's using the marketplace), and I know this may sound odd to the experienced chip buyers/collectors on this forum, but I couldn't reconcile that the Cleveland secondary $25s were selling for $0.99 and Cincinnati $100 secondaries for $3.49. I know you guys are fast typing at your keyboards trying to say how different those chips are and how fewer chips of one kind or another contributes to the market price, and it's about supply/demand, etc. I GET ALL OF THAT. But as a newbie, I expected to pay a similar price for the $5/$25/$100s (ultimately I'd like to have 400-500 $100 chips, which by itself would cost $1400-1700+), and seeing such huge discrepancies, it made me hold back on going the Horseshoe route.
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I think you will have a hard time finding 400-500 mint/unsed casino paulson 100$ chips for less than this no matter what chips you end up going for. The higher denoms (100+) always demand higher prices than the lower more available chips. The 99cent price for the mint 25$ cleveland chips seems more like the outlier than the price of the cinci 100$ to be honest.
 
upNdown said:
The problem is that $100 casino chips are more scarce than $5's and $25's, so they're more expensive across the board. Good luck finding any casino $100's for a buck a chip, let alone mint ones.
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Wasn't really looking to pay the same price as $5 chips, but perhaps in the $2 range as opposed to the $3.50-$4 range. But am quickly learning the high prices they demand
 
Considering you are gonna play 5/10 have you thought about adding 500$/1000$ chipsy? The added bonus from the Horseshoe chips is that there are readily available higher denoms including 43mm chips which would be cool to add to your set. They are pretty expensive, but something like a barrel or two just for the heck of it is a pretty cool addition to the set imo.
 
Marius L said:
Considering you are gonna play 5/10 have you thought about adding 500$/1000$ chipsy? The added bonus from the Horseshoe chips is that there are readily available higher denoms including 43mm chips which would be cool to add to your set. They are pretty expensive, but something like a barrel or two just for the heck of it is a pretty cool addition to the set imo.
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Will definitely be adding them at a later time, but for now we use plaques. Also, this will help me keep my sanity and price of the set relatively low. I do realize that over time, and with add-ons, the price will inevitably continue to rise :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
kk405 said:
Wasn't really looking to pay the same price as $5 chips, but perhaps in the $2 range as opposed to the $3.50-$4 range. But am quickly learning the high prices they demand
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Yeah, you aren't going to find too many near mint casino Paulson $100 for less than $4/chip.

One idea, if you like the chips, would be to buy 10 of the Cinci 100-chip heads up sets (consisting of uncirculated primary $5, mint secondary $25 and $100). While slightly over your budget, I think it would be tough to beat that for the price. If that doesn't give you the breakdown you need, add more sets and sell off what you don't need. Those are darn fine looking chips, and at an average of $2.29/chip, including that many $100, seems like a pretty good deal to me!

I will try to think of other options too.
 
liftapint said:
Yeah, you aren't going to find too many near mint casino Paulson $100 for less than $4/chip.

One idea, if you like the chips, would be to buy 10 of the Cinci 100-chip heads up sets (consisting of uncirculated primary $5, mint secondary $25 and $100). While slightly over your budget, I think it would be tough to beat that for the price. If that doesn't give you the breakdown you need, add more sets and sell off what you don't need. Those are darn fine looking chips, and at an average of $2.29/chip, including that many $100, seems like a pretty good deal to me!

I will try to think of other options too.
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I think that might be a no-brainer, especially if mint chips are preferred.
 
Oops, for some reason I thought there were 40 x $100 in those sets. this would be a little more expensive. So buy as many sets to give you the uncirc $5 you need and supplement with chips by the rack to fill out the set. The other bonus is they be higher denims would be attainable, unlike some of the older sets.

Stills pretty good option, jut not as inexpensive as I originally was thinking.
 
Generally speaking, in today's market for mint/near-mint chips....

casino Paulson $1 chips sell for about $1.50 to $2.00 per chip (including harvested 'live' chips).
casino Paulson $5 chips sell for about $2.00 to $3.00 per chip.
casino Paulson $25 chips sell for about $2.00 to $3.00 per chip.
casino Paulson $100 chips sell for about $3.50 to $4.50 per chip.

Of course, chips in higher demand or limited supply will be on the higher end of those ranges (or higher), while chips in lesser demand or greater supply will be on the lower end of those ranges. Generally speaking, THC chips will command higher prices than RHC chips, and real shaped inlays will command higher prices than round (or faux-shaped) inlays.

So plan accordingly. If you see something you really like on a mold you desire that is listed well below those value ranges, you probably should snap it up before it's gone. Chips purchased can always be resold. Chips not purchased may never be seen for sale again, or if so, for selling for twice the previous price.


Imo, anybody who is paying higher prices than ^those^ for Paulson fantasy/home-game chips on a non-casino mold is throwing their money away, and getting an inferior common mass-produced product while paying more money for fake casino chips than they could for genuine and somewhat rare casino chips. But that's just my opinion (although shared by many). Personally, I welcome the current fantasy chip craze, as it keeps those folks busy and out of the casino chip market. :sneaky:
 
DJ Mack said:
I tell people that I play poker and I collect poker chips. Those two hobbies often intersect but they are in no way dependent on each other.
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I tell people the same thing with one minor difference. My chip collecting hobby is very dependent on my poker winnings :(
 
liftapint said:
Yeah, you aren't going to find too many near mint casino Paulson $100 for less than $4/chip.
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This is accurate to an extent, but definitely more so if you are looking at stand alone pricing. Often when buying as a set, the avg chip price is brought down by the 5s and 25s. people. People need to sell the $100 chips at inflated prices because they will take a bath on the 5s and 25s if they sell them independently.

If you like the big inlays PNY or Bahamia could be good sets to look for. Dunes or Trops if you like older. Or maybe a set like the Casablancas - they had so many $100 chip options that people started using them for relabel projects.
 
kk405 said:
I am hoping to spend less than 2K, but do recognize that it may be an ambitious project and price point to hit. Desired set would be geared to the 5/10 NL game, hence no need for $1 or $10/$20 chips.

Initially I would try to start with 220x$5 chips, 320x$25 chips and 320x$100 chips (The 20 extras are for reserve).

Condition? I definitely would want very clean chips...the primary Horseshoe's are non-starters
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Only posting this because they were in your OP, but given the highlighted info above, a PNY secondary set (in excellent to mint condition) with that breakdown would be well under $2k, even if you're paying a little premium to get them faster. If the design appeals to you, I would definitely get a small sample set and check them out (you definitely want samples, some like the design but not the feel of the RHC with giant inlays).

Casablancas would be another excellent option (good condition, THC mold), probably a little more $$ (close to $2k) and a little harder to find but a solid option. Good luck with your search!
 
Is there a place I can find the list and pictures of all the Paulson chips?
 

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