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[TheBigTater]

@TheBigTater I have asked David about the T&T's. Just so you're aware, David did indicate it will be around 9 months, are you ok with that?

Not an issue, pretty standard wait time for CPC nowdays unless you're ordering A-mold. HHR probably isn't scheduled to run for a while.

Once I get home after work I'll verify the numbers

 

[opengun]

From David: "Actually, they will be Trinidad and Tobago, that's the only way the custom ones were made."

"Your samples were from the real casino order that was never delivered."

 

[RussB42]

Me, I use to have some..

 

[bigblind]

Blast from the past, just found in my basement Club Cleopatra

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these are from a group buy that was during the Vegas years of ASM/CPC Michael Dambach & Red Ott era.

 

[TheBigTater]

So trying to work up my numbers and....

From David: "Actually, they will be Trinidad and Tobago, that's the only way the custom ones were made."

"Your samples were from the real casino order that was never delivered."

I'm a little confused, I thought the Trinidad & Tobago were the original non-opened casino chip that ASM sold leftover stock of....
...and Turks & Cacaos were the chips later ordered through ASM/ASM Vegas because they couldn't use the original artwork/inlay. This also included the 5K (designed by @courage) that wasn't in the original set.

Looks there are color differences in the 1K chips
I believe the original Trinidad & Tobago was 3D14 Canary/Red/Lt Green
Later Turks & Cacaos 3D14 (mine are Canary/Red/Dk Green but your T&C in OP look Canary/Red/Lt Green)??

And the 5k was was 3TA316 Chocolate/??/White/?? (my color samples are newer and don't match the older colors)

@courage @bigblind @anyone Can anyone verify the colors on the 2 different sets (T&T, T&C). Unfortunately all the old CT site is dead and gone for reference. (my CPC color samples are newer and don't match up to the older colors)

Trinidad & Tobago came first
Turks & Caicos came second

Trinidad & Tobago were originally made for a casino which
for some reason had license pulled, so they never opened.

Turks & Caicos were made during Red Ott and Michael Dambach days when
ASM/CPC whatever name they were going by was in Vegas. They were a add-on run I think during C.T, days..
At the time I was told they couldn't use original design inlay, so some changes were made by
,Mike Dambach.. Thus the new inlay. But talking to David @ CPC you can get the original inlay
Trinidad & Tobago now. They also have some denominations that were not in original making
of the Club Cleopatras.

I assume this means CPC will now sell the original artwork/inlay Trinidad & Tobago, correct?

 

[opengun]

Well now I’m totally confused. I quoted David’s email directly sent to me. Is David on that we can tag?

 

[TheBigTater]

@David Spragg

 

[David Spragg]

I've done 3 re-orders that I can recall. All were with the Trinidad & Tobago art. I don't even have the Turks & Caicos Art. (not surprising now I see Red's name mentioned).
Seems they were all custom colors, I'm not sure what the original colors were. I had to create a few extra denoms that weren't in the original art file.
I have no problem making more chips for whoever wants them.

 

[TheBigTater]

Thanks David for clarifying we can use Trinidad & Tobago artwork on any denoms.

Still ooking for anyone @courage, @bigblind or anyone else that might can come up with the original colors for both the T&T or the T&C, mainly the 1K & 5K chip.

 

[opengun]

and since i only have a sample set, i’m good with any color combination.

 

[bigblind]

So trying to work up my numbers and....



I'm a little confused, I thought the Trinidad & Tobago were the original non-opened casino chip that ASM sold leftover stock of....
...and Turks & Cacaos were the chips later ordered through ASM/ASM Vegas because they couldn't use the original artwork/inlay. This also included the 5K (designed by @courage) that wasn't in the original set.

Looks there are color differences in the 1K chips
I believe the original Trinidad & Tobago was 3D14 Canary/Red/Lt Green
Later Turks & Cacaos 3D14 (mine are Canary/Red/Dk Green but your T&C in OP look Canary/Red/Lt Green)??

And the 5k was was 3TA316 Chocolate/??/White/?? (my color samples are newer and don't match the older colors)

@courage @bigblind @anyone Can anyone verify the colors on the 2 different sets (T&T, T&C). Unfortunately all the old CT site is dead and gone for reference. (my CPC color samples are newer and don't match up to the older colors)





I assume this means CPC will now sell the original artwork/inlay Trinidad & Tobago, correct?

original colors for $1000
3D14 , yellow base,
day-glow green, day=glow orange
I could dig out old email from Sally who use to work for Mike and Red in vegas
when i purchased the add-ons before with Turks it was a dead match except for inlay.
this recent purchase with Trinidad inlay day-glow green is alittle different
brighter- more vivid so maybe new dye pigment supplier

 

[bigblind]

Thanks David for clarifying we can use Trinidad & Tobago artwork on any denoms.

Still ooking for anyone @courage, @bigblind or anyone else that might can come up with the original colors for both the T&T or the T&C, mainly the 1K & 5K chip.

what chip colors can i help you with?

 

[opengun]

what chip colors can i help you with?

the $1000 and $5000

 

[TheBigTater]

what chip colors can i help you with?

Mainly the 1K & 5K although I've got a good idea on the versions I have.
But it would be great to get a full color rundown of both all the original T&T denoms & the T&C denoms (this could be a lot since there have been a few runs)

I know there were very few original 1K Trinidad & Tobago from the unopened casino but I don't have one of those.

My Turks & Caicos 1K (3D14) (which is one of apparently many different runs) looks like:

If you look at the Turks & Caicos in the OP his appears to be some Orange/DG Orange? & Lt Green?

And then the 5K (3TA316) which I've gone back and forth on, mine is Turks & Caicos looks like below (the lavender & peach color aren't an exact match with my CPC color samples, close but..:

But in the OP his 5K is a 3D14 Turks & Caicos with Yellow? & Purple?, not 3TA316.

I mean obviously there have been a few custom runs of these with the T&C inlays so it's looking like whatever custom color combo we come with for a new order will just be that, another custom color combo. I've long given up on matching CPC addons to chips from another production run as there are always shading differences.

Any help with original proof/colors from ASM/CPC would be fantastic.

 

[bigblind]

Mainly the 1K & 5K although I've got a good idea on the versions I have.
But it would be great to get a full color rundown of both all the original T&T denoms & the T&C denoms (this could be a lot since there have been a few runs)

I know there were very few original 1K Trinidad & Tobago from the unopened casino but I don't have one of those.

My Turks & Caicos 1K (3D14) (which is one of apparently many different runs) looks like:
View attachment 923874

If you look at the Turks & Caicos in the OP his appears to be some Orange/DG Orange? & Lt Green?

And then the 5K (3TA316) which I've gone back and forth on, mine is Turks & Caicos looks like below (the lavender & peach color aren't an exact match with my CPC color samples, close but..:

View attachment 923879

But in the OP his 5K is a 3D14 Turks & Caicos with Yellow? & Purple?, not 3TA316.

I mean obviously there have been a few custom runs of these with the T&C inlays so it's looking like whatever custom color combo we come with for a new order will just be that, another custom color combo. I've long given up on matching CPC addons to chips from another production run as there are always shading differences.

Any help with original proof/colors from ASM/CPC would be f

the $ 5000 was never a original Trinidad chip. it was a add-on from a group buy
but it is a Turks in-lay. don't know who created Trinidad 5k in-lay. on the 5K Turks
in-lay i've seen chocolate base color ( mike dambach) and maroon ( courage) .

 

[bigblind]

on the original Trinidad in-lay i have matched the color over time

the $1000 chip
was 3D14 yellow base ,spots, were day glow green and day glow orange . i matched the colors way back with the group buy in 2012 or 13 I would have to located email from Salley who worked with Mike Dambach and Red Ott. I was adding on to my original set with the Turks in-lay getting $1000 chips to go with the original chips i had. colors matched perfect. Present day CPC colors are very very close but some of the day glow colors are brighter or the white $1 chip is easy to pick out between original chips made in 1980's or early 90's white was a off white color, .present day white is alot brighter white, spots were day glow green but present day glow green is brighter more vivid. i can lay these chips side by side and you would be able to pick them out easy. the $5k Turks chip inlay
i know of two versions there was a 3d14 version by: mike dambach chocolate base would have to locate email for spot colors. also a 3ta316 version was made designed by ( courage ) back in CT days.this was a maroon base and spots were day glow peach, bright white, and retro lavendar I believe so can you live with chips that are alittle different in shading because of old pigment and new pigment.

 

[TheBigTater]

the $ 5000 was never a original Trinidad chip. it was a add-on from a group buy
but it is a Turks in-lay. don't know who created Trinidad 5k in-lay. on the 5K Turks
in-lay i've seen chocolate base color ( mike dambach) and maroon ( courage) .

on the original Trinidad in-lay i have matched the color over time

the $1000 chip
was 3D14 yellow base ,spots, were day glow green and day glow orange . i matched the colors way back with the group buy in 2012 or 13 I would have to located email from Salley who worked with Mike Dambach and Red Ott. I was adding on to my original set with the Turks in-lay getting $1000 chips to go with the original chips i had. colors matched perfect. Present day CPC colors are very very close but some of the day glow colors are brighter or the white $1 chip is easy to pick out between original chips made in 1980's or early 90's white was a off white color, .present day white is alot brighter white, spots were day glow green but present day glow green is brighter more vivid. i can lay these chips side by side and you would be able to pick them out easy. the $5k Turks chip inlay
i know of two versions there was a 3d14 version by: mike dambach chocolate base would have to locate email for spot colors. also a 3ta316 version was made designed by ( courage ) back in CT days.this was a maroon base and spots were day glow peach, bright white, and retro lavendar I believe so can you live with chips that are alittle different in shading because of old pigment and new pigment.

Appreciate the info. From what David has said there has been more than 2 GB/runs of these after the fact with some different variations. Pretty sure my 1K & 5K came from the Courage designed addon/GB.

My cash set is mostly from the original casino chips plus I have a sample of one of the following GB chips and the white $1's are drastically different. For sure the brighter colors, yellows/pinks/dg colors tend to have the most color shade differences from past runs to current mixes.

I'm more than a tad bit OCD with color shade differences so I'll just be keeping my current higher denoms chips with my heads-up set and ordering enough using @opengun color choices to cover a simple 9-18 man tournament set & maybe a inlay frac for the cash set.

 

[bigblind]

i'm not aware of any group buy with David in the past. I'm aware of several purchases of Trinidad inlay chips which are treated as custom order but use a stock inlay. CPC has also expanded the denominations to include nickel and i had a 25K inlay made and then you can pick any colors you want, my present club cleopatra set is around 3600 pieces around 3000 Trinidad and 600 Turks. starting at a nickel to 25K. after a few drinks the colors on the chips all look GREAT! most of my players don't notice the shading difference. the only color that matters is green when you are cashing out. show me the money!!

 

[bigblind]

i had alot of light blue Turks from previous group buy wanted to keep similar with the Trinidad inlay and i like spots so i kept the same light blue color and added retro red spots, this way i can use them together in a 25/50 game, the nickels i made custom 312 spot burple base , day - glow pink spot.