Windwalker’s Chipping Journey in Pr0n0grAph1C Detail (9 Viewers)

[raynmanas]

Some more slow rolling from my Reno estate find that was stuck in probate court forever. Not an expert on TRKs, but I don’t think these are seen too much in barrel or rack quantities.

These are 60s issued chips from the El Cortez Hotel in Las Vegas. There’s some healthy debate on The Chip Board that these and the Sands chips were replicas made by TR King for the public in the 1990s, but I tend to disagree with that assertion for 3 reasons:

1. Weights indicate they’re most likely leaded, and as far as I know, the 90s reproductions were not (like the King’s Crown fantasy chips with round inlays.)

2. The provenance documents from the late owner whose estate I purchased these from show these specific chips have been in his possession since 1976 (and the Sands chips since 1981.)

3. If they were publicly available in the 1990s as some claim, then it’s curious why more of them don’t exist in the chipping community (like the King’s Crown chips.)

Either way, they’re pretty chips, and some unique examples of TRKs.

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very, very cool find.

 

[Okku]

Some more slow rolling from my Reno estate find that was stuck in probate court forever. Not an expert on TRKs, but I don’t think these are seen too much in barrel or rack quantities.

These are 60s issued chips from the El Cortez Hotel in Las Vegas. There’s some healthy debate on The Chip Board that these and the Sands chips were replicas made by TR King for the public in the 1990s, but I tend to disagree with that assertion for 3 reasons:

1. Weights indicate they’re most likely leaded, and as far as I know, the 90s reproductions were not (like the King’s Crown fantasy chips with round inlays.)

2. The provenance documents from the late owner whose estate I purchased these from show these specific chips have been in his possession since 1976 (and the Sands chips since 1981.)

3. If they were publicly available in the 1990s as some claim, then it’s curious why more of them don’t exist in the chipping community (like the King’s Crown chips.)

Either way, they’re pretty chips, and some unique examples of TRKs.

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These are most definitely not seen in racks or barrels at all. Hardly ever seen as singles too! I've only seen maybe one or two of the $25s in person, none of the $5s... INSANE STUFF KRISH!!! I'd be a kid in a candy store with all these finds lately.

 

[TRKingChips]

I had no idea paulson made metal inlay chips, are these the only ones?

Paulson made the BMI chips for only 5 or 6 of
the CA card rooms - mostly during the 1970’s .
They also made the BMI chips for some of the
NV casinos .

 

[TRKingChips]

Some more slow rolling from my Reno estate find that was stuck in probate court forever. Not an expert on TRKs, but I don’t think these are seen too much in barrel or rack quantities.

These are 60s issued chips from the El Cortez Hotel in Las Vegas. There’s some healthy debate on The Chip Board that these and the Sands chips were replicas made by TR King for the public in the 1990s, but I tend to disagree with that assertion for 3 reasons:

1. Weights indicate they’re most likely leaded, and as far as I know, the 90s reproductions were not (like the King’s Crown fantasy chips with round inlays.)

2. The provenance documents from the late owner whose estate I purchased these from show these specific chips have been in his possession since 1976 (and the Sands chips since 1981.)

3. If they were publicly available in the 1990s as some claim, then it’s curious why more of them don’t exist in the chipping community (like the King’s Crown chips.)

Either way, they’re pretty chips, and some unique examples of TRKs.

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The Sands chips and the El Cortez chips are
genuine authentic chips made by TRK .
I am positive that TRK never made any reproductions of these chips during the 1990’s
or at any other time .

 

[cpac54]

Some more slow rolling from my Reno estate find that was stuck in probate court forever. Not an expert on TRKs, but I don’t think these are seen too much in barrel or rack quantities.

These are 60s issued chips from the El Cortez Hotel in Las Vegas. There’s some healthy debate on The Chip Board that these and the Sands chips were replicas made by TR King for the public in the 1990s, but I tend to disagree with that assertion for 3 reasons:

1. Weights indicate they’re most likely leaded, and as far as I know, the 90s reproductions were not (like the King’s Crown fantasy chips with round inlays.)

2. The provenance documents from the late owner whose estate I purchased these from show these specific chips have been in his possession since 1976 (and the Sands chips since 1981.)

3. If they were publicly available in the 1990s as some claim, then it’s curious why more of them don’t exist in the chipping community (like the King’s Crown chips.)

Either way, they’re pretty chips, and some unique examples of TRKs.

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Seems to me that, in order to protect "value" of individual chips, singles collectors would have a vested interest in trying to poo-poo on any find that suddenly increases the number of certain chips that would be available (even if only potentially) on the market.

 

[CrazyEddie]

The Sands chips and the El Cortez chips are
genuine authentic chips made by TRK .
I am positive that TRK never made any reproductions of these chips during the 1990’s
or at any other time .

How do you know this? I'm not doubting your information, but I'm curious about your sources.

 

[TRKingChips]

How do you know this? I'm not doubting your information, but I'm curious about your sources.

Information comes directly from the owner of TRK - Dennis O’Neill .

 

[PocketAces]

I think the lesson here is that there is no such thing as a truly “rare” chip. It’s good that you shared the find as it started this whole conversation on TCB about TRK producing “replicas” of old casino chips (is that the right word?) in the 90s - which I didn’t know! The first NAGBs were Vegas TRKs who would have thought

 

[Okku]

there is no such thing as a truly “rare” chip.

I've always thought about this when buying chips. The chips we never see or have never seen are somewhere sitting in someone's safe, with an older relative, sitting collecting dust or what have it. You may only see 1, but there are always more

 

[Windwalker]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

 

[Okku]

These were one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay.

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Let me just say this. RARE. WOW, this estate acquisition has absolute gems in it.

 

[upNdown]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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No idea what that rack is worth on the market, but retro inlays like that should be worth their weight in gold.
Just beautiful

 

[FestiveKnight]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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Gorgeous chips. I find this type of retro inlay such amazing design inspiration.

 

[AfterTheFact]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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Hoe Lee Shet!

 

[Lil Tuna]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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@inca911

 

[inca911]

@inca911

I’m a fan (as seen by my @Gear creation)!

 

[Okku]

I’m a fan (as seen by my @Gear creation)!
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These will have a special place in my heart forever

 

[FDLmold]

Thechipboard discussion of these chips has been low on evidence and high on sour grapes.

I'd never heard of TRK literally making racks of exact copies of former live casino chips. Somebody has to produce some proof of that one, and I doubt they can.

Now, TRK at one time sold their extra overrun *singles* chips from a lot of casinos. For example, the only small crown $100 El Cortez white conquistador singles on the market currently are probably from these overrun chips. But those were singles, not RACKS.

 

[Okku]

Thechipboard discussion of these chips has been low on evidence and high on sour grapes.

I'd never heard of TRK literally making racks of exact copies of former live casino chips. Somebody has to produce some proof of that one, and I doubt they can.

Now, TRK at one time sold their extra overrun *singles* chips from a lot of casinos. For example, the only small crown $100 El Cortez white conquistador singles on the market currently are probably from these overrun chips. But those were singles, not RACKS.

This is exactly what I thought after talking with James Campiglia and others on the phone. TRK only sold singles overruns or slight imperfections. Have not heard about racks and racks of them.

 

[FDLmold]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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haha this chip was a Z6, book $5000-8000 (so sells at $2500+)

no telling what the singles market will do after this information

 

[Bill_Man618]

haha this chip was a Z6, book $5000-8000 (so sells at $2500+)

no telling what the singles market will do after this information

Prolly sent The Chip Board into a frenzy. But if Krish doesn’t sell then I don’t think it’ll have to much of a difference. If he sells them though I’d say the singles prices for these will promptly take a nose dive.

 

[upNdown]

Thechipboard discussion of these chips has been low on evidence and high on sour grapes.

I would love to read it all, but I flat out refuse to click on each message.
Could somebody create an app or a site that would convert all those messages into an easily readable format?

 

[Okku]

if Krish doesn’t sell then I don’t think it’ll have to much of a difference. If he sells them though I’d say the singles prices for these will promptly take a nose dive.

This is the thing... The price will stay around the same as long as none are sold which Krish said he will NOT be selling any of them.

If someone else would have had them and started to sell them slowly then the price of the singles would take a major nose dive.

 

[TRKingChips]

These are one of the “non set” racks in the estate purchase, don’t know much about them. The chips are rather plain, but I love the inlay. They look lightly used, but are nice and heavy — 10.1 grams.

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Beautiful chips !!!
I have not seen these chips before .
Simply amazing find …

 

[PocketAces]

This is the thing... The price will stay around the same as long as none are sold which Krish said he will NOT be selling any of them.

If someone else would have had them and started to sell them slowly then the price of the singles would take a major nose dive.

Would you pay the same price knowing that we went from one or two known chips to 100? I think it would be natural to expect price to adjust (dramatically). Not just for the chips that were found but for most of the high end, supposedly incredibly rare, chips - btw $5000/$8000 for a single wtf…

 

[Okku]

Would you pay the same price knowing that we went from one or two known chips to 100? I think it would be natural to expect price to adjust (dramatically). Not just for the chips that were found but for most of the high end, supposedly incredibly rare, chips - btw $5000/$8000 for a single wtf…

I wouldn't pay the same price. I guess I should say the price will drop knowing that there is a higher known quantity. Somewhere around 40-50% or so.

It will still be a rare chip for those looking to get a single though.

 

[FDLmold]

The Sands $5 is a Y chip, book $700-800. The Sands $25 is a Z3, $1600-2100. And The Sands $100 is a Z1, $800-1100. I don't think anybody has mentioned that, though I'm sure people have looked it up.

 

[joeyshin]

The Sands $5 is a Y chip, book $700-800. The Sands $25 is a Z3, $1600-2100. And The Sands $100 is a Z1, $800-1100. I don't think anybody has mentioned that, though I'm sure people have looked it up.

But that’s before these are accounted for.

 

[ekricket]

I would love to read it all, but I flat out refuse to click on each message.
Could somebody create an app or a site that would convert all those messages into an easily readable format?

 

[Gear]

book $5000-8000 (so sells at $2500+)

This is what I find annoying and useless about "book value". If the book says it's worth $5000-$8000 then shouldn't it sell for $5000-$8000? Otherwise the right book value would be $2500ish.