SOLD 274 Mint Hotstamps from Vegas $200 (1 Viewer)

[XBobdog]

I did buy these before. 41Pickup allowed me to return them if I didn't think they were clay. Although they do seem to have lathe marks, they only weighed in at 7 grams. In my opinion, the lack of density makes them feel unclaylike. They "clink" instead of "clunk"

technical talk.

Nice colors, and 41Pickup was very easy to deal with, but in my opinion, not clay.

 

[XBobdog]

AND
I can't believe you guys are burning your chips

 

[upNdown]

I did buy these before. 41Pickup allowed me to return them if I didn't think they were clay. Although they do seem to have lathe marks, they only weighed in at 7 grams. In my opinion, the lack of density makes them feel unclaylike. They "clink" instead of "clunk"

technical talk.

Nice colors, and 41Pickup was very easy to deal with, but in my opinion, not clay.

I wonder what CPC chips weigh.
Its kind of ridiculous that I haven't bought a scale yet.

 

[BGinGA]

JM and I both did some flame testing on the blue albatross, testing a bunch of different chip types from various manufacturers. Clay chips did not burn or melt, but did soften. Plastics burn and melt into goo.

 

[upNdown]

JM and I both did some flame testing on the blue albatross, testing a bunch of different chip types from various manufacturers. Clay chips did not burn or melt, but did soften. Plastics burn and melt into goo.

My followup question then would be - for how long did these unicorns burn after the lighter was removed. Because like I said, I got a second or two burn from my chips (probably because of surface shit, hot stamp material or whatever.

 

[72o]

Look I don't want this shit if its not clay...esp. at this price. If they are truly light plastic chips then I'd be interested at 20c per not 73c per.

 

[ekricket]

Not compression molded chips

 

[41Pickup]

It would seem that the disclaimers I have done and even breaking and burning one does not satisfy some on this board. The reality is these are authentic Las Vegas casino chips whether clay or injection mold . The classified ad has now been high jacked with the clay vs plastic discussion twice. Each time a member has said they would buy them , they were contacted by someone on the board Sabatoging the sale . I am fine with you having your opinion , but please refrain from intentionally trying ruin another members sale. Real Las Vegas mint casino chips for $.70 each are hard to find regardless of mold .

 

[BGinGA]

Glws, and never made any attempt to thwart it - nor should any others.

Only pointed out that I firmly believe your contention that these are clay chips is incorrect. That's not thread-crapping, it's protecting buyers from being misled.

 

[justsomedude]

It would seem that the disclaimers I have done and even breaking and burning one does not satisfy some on this board. The reality is these are authentic Las Vegas casino chips whether clay or injection mold . The classified ad has now been high jacked with the clay vs plastic discussion twice. Each time a member has said they would buy them , they were contacted by someone on the board Sabatoging the sale . I am fine with you having your opinion , but please refrain from intentionally trying ruin another members sale. Real Las Vegas mint casino chips for $.70 each are hard to find regardless of mold .

I will out myself here...

I am the one who contacted 72o. I informed him of the previous "for sale" thread, and informed him that the buyer got a refund because they were not "maybe clay" as advertised.

I have no problem with people selling plastic, clay, or potato chips on this forum. Or real casino chips for that matter. However, I do value the relationships I've made here, and the basic principle that we can engage with each other in honest dealings and transactions. That's part of the trust that exists among these forum members. When I see Classifies that attempt to abuse that trust, or mislead buyers with crafty wording and tongue-twisting descriptions, I become offended and then downright angry.

I am sorry I sabotaged your sale. I sincerely apologize. I broke the cardinal rule of "two wrongs do not make a right."

I have spoken my peace, and will now leave this thread for good.

/rant

 

[upNdown]

I doubt further threadcrapping is a problem at this point. But my two cents is I'm not convinced they're NOT compression molded clay chips.
My original thought when I saw these was that maybe somebody put them on a lathe to reproduce the sharp edges and the milling lines. But that doesn't explain the absence of the injection point. I can't imagine a way remove those cleanly and easily.

 

[warewulf]

I doubt further threadcrapping is a problem at this point. But my two cents is I'm not convinced they're NOT compression molded clay chips.
My original thought when I saw these was that maybe somebody put them on a lathe to reproduce the sharp edges and the milling lines. But that doesn't explain the absence of the injection point. I can't imagine a way remove those cleanly and easily.

Similar to my thinking -- without the injection marks, I'm thinking they could be clay. I suggest getting an impartial opinion and weight. Send 1-20 of them to someone that can weigh them and provide an unbiased opinion.

 

[ekricket]

I've had a little fun here and I apologize for that, but I do think the OP was very up front with his listing, stating his opinion and giving photos for prospective buyers to judge for themselves what they are buying. IMO it doesn't matter what they are as long as the buyer is happy with them and knowing what they are getting, making their own judgements

 

[BGinGA]

Many are missing the main point...... if clay, who made them, and where's the mold (which is/was owned by Chipco).

Injection mold markings can be removed. You can't injection-mold clay.

 

[bentax1978]

Similar to my thinking -- without the injection marks, I'm thinking they could be clay. I suggest getting an impartial opinion and weight. Send 1-20 of them to someone that can weigh them and provide an unbiased opinion.

Oh no, not this again...

 

[One Eyed Dollar]

XBobdog has stated that the chips weighed in at 7 grams when he bought them originally. Are there any clay chips that are that light?

 

[41Pickup]

Many are missing the main point...... if clay, who made them, and where's the mold (which is/was owned by Chipco).

Injection mold markings can be removed. You can't injection-mold clay.

Really dude? Who the hell would go through the hassle to remove 275 injection marks to sell chips for $200

 

[upNdown]

Many are missing the main point...... if clay, who made them, and where's the mold (which is/was owned by Chipco).

Right. That's a very simple, logical argument against compressed clay. And maybe the most persuasive argument of all. Still, itt's a mystery to me.

 

[ChipEnvy]

Antiquegamblingchips.com has the following description for the unicorn mold:

"UNICORN -- 8 unicorns. Recent mold; unsure of the dates; still in use. This is an open mold made in the U.S. and recently abroad. Marion & Co., North Miami FL, Chipco Int'l, Windham ME, and a host of other places."

I didn't look it up but iirc Marion & Co did produce some nice chips back in the day. Other than that the history of the mold sounds very murky.

Maybe post looking for more info over on thechipboard.com. They look compression molded to me. It's worth checking into imho.

 

[BGinGA]

Really dude? Who the hell would go through the hassle to remove 275 injection marks to sell chips for $200

Don't take it personally. Lots of high-end plastic chips are machined to remove mold points.

 

[mike32]

I don't know why I care but I'll say it again. Look at the square edges and the difference in the hot stamps in the pics on the first page. The hot stamp on the plastic version has texture, just like the other plastic unicorn hot stamps I used to own. The Opera House hot stamps are much nicer, like those on Paulson , BCC or ASM chips. Also the flower mold non-brass flake chips I used to own were compression molded by all accounts, and quite light. I did not weigh them, but they felt very much like super diamonds.

Also when you break an injection molded chip in half, I don't think it looks like that.

 

[rowlin]

How about breaking a known cheapo version of a unicorn chip for comparison?

 

[AfterTheFact]

Test subject

Sinks in water

Very hard to break and leaves small flecks

Burns easily

Drips like plastic

I would have uploaded the video but it says the file is too large

 

[superchromix]

surely the dripping plastic must be the "smoking gun" of the injection molded plastic chip.. The opera house chip didn't melt.

 

[warewulf]

This is an open mold made in the U.S. and recently abroad. Marion & Co., North Miami FL, Chipco Int'l, Windham ME, and a host of other places."

Not sure if 'Open Mold' means anyone can purchase this mold and make their own chips? That's what it sounds like to me. Makes sense in this case.

 

[41Pickup]

I appreciate @AfterTheFact killing one of his injection mold unicorn chips for the great debate! A couple of Points that are easy to see. First it required pliers to break the injection mold chip. The opera house chips was easily broken with my thumb an index finger. Secondly, and most interestingly the test chip melted . I have now set the Opera house chip on fire for the third time. It has yet to melt. For the non believers, I do not know who made the chip or where the mold is. What we do know for sure : It does not melt, it does not have injection marks, It does have lathe marks on the edges, The hot stamps look like clay hot stamps vs. injection hot stamps. I will agree the chips are lighter than Paulsons, but they are about the same as some other clay chips with molds such as horse head that was shown on the first page of this thread. All that being said. I believe every proper disclosure has been made and any possible test to verify that these are not injection mold chips has been done. Someone can buy them or not for $200. I hope all can agree that "crafty wording" was not used to describe these chips in an effort to get over on another member. Searching Unicorn mold chip on eBay would also show chips from non Vegas casinos that we know are injection molds for a great deal more. Lastly, I value my reputation much more than $200. I would hope that the members that called into question my ethics would be man or woman enough to admit they may not know everything about these chips.

 

[leo822]

Somewhere there's a secret thread blowing up.

 

[BGinGA]

members that called into question my ethics

Not me, sir. Your reputation is beyond reproach in my book.

 

[WedgeRock]

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I broke a chip in half and held a lighter under it. The chips does not melt as I would guess a plastic chip would. It does hold a flame once I remove the lighter.

You ANIMAL!!!

 

[WedgeRock]

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Not trying to dispute anyone, I tried a test on some initialed HHR Chips. It appeared to hold a flame just like the Opera house Chips did. Now let's take a moment of silence for both of these chips.

What the holy hell is going on around here?!