4 Color Decks - Yay or Nay? (3 Viewers)

[Taghkanic]

You joke, but with some of those damn security ink decks, I’m straining to tell the difference between the color of spades and diamonds.

Which brand(s) do you mean?

 

[upNdown]

Which brand(s) do you mean?

Hmm. I forget. Maybe fournier? I’ve long since sold any security red decks I had

 

[Taghkanic]

Hmm. I forget. Maybe fournier? I’ve long since sold any security red decks I had

I found a pic of a Fournier deck with a much darker red than usual, if that’s what you mean.

Any design scheme can be screwed up even if the fundamental concept is sound.

For example, my casino tournament pet peeve is when they use black 100s and purple 500s, and the purple is too dark — so the two chip colors blend together in shadow / bad lighting.

It would be fine if the purples were more of a light lavender.

Just an example of something that gets screwed up through a lack of attention to detail / thinking about usability.

So anyway a worst case scenario for decks would be two-color with security red.

 

[improviseallday]

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Would never be allowed by either party but Sony's symbols and Lego's colors come to mind.

 

[binoclard]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing right after posting it, Sony should branch out and start making poker cards

 

[Talrem]

Our group is a big fan of 4-Color decks. We have both Copags and Faded Spade 3.0 in rotation. It doesn’t make the biggest difference, but it ever so slightly reduces misplays and mental load, and that’s nice. I don’t just like all 4-color decks, because sometimes they use horrendous greens and blues, but there are great ones out there.

I concur with the reasoning here!
You don’t have to pay attention much to suits but to colors instead, and that’s a huge alleviation to mental effort and mistaking suits / misplaying hands, especially playing fast-paced multi-table online games.
Buuuut… those bright blues/greens that cause visual paralysis are more annoying than keeping track of black/red suits in live games!
So ‘Yes’ to online and “No” to live.

 

[binoclard]

I have started to try it online, and I am amazed at how "obvious" it is… Definitely won't go back. So thank you all 4-colours advocates for showing me the way.

 

[Taghkanic]

I concur with the reasoning here!
You don’t have to pay attention much to suits but to colors instead, and that’s a huge alleviation to mental effort and mistaking suits / misplaying hands, especially playing fast-paced multi-table online games.
Buuuut… those bright blues/greens that cause visual paralysis are more annoying than keeping track of black/red suits in live games!
So ‘Yes’ to online and “No” to live.

You don’t have to pick just one (shapes or colors).

The two combined vastly reduce the chance of a mistake.

 

[Taghkanic]

I’m fine with multi-color logos when I’m shopping online...

... but not when I’m driving around live trying to find a store

 

[andrebttx]

I’m fine with multi-color logos when I’m shopping online...

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... but not when I’m driving around live trying to find a store!

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I really appreciate the effort that went into this shitpost, well done, 10/10.

 

[Mandos]

All this talk has me curious to try some. If anyone wants to get rid of their hated 4 color decks let me know!

 

[PlaidDragon]

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I don't mind it either way.

I DO have one multi-color deck but pretty much use it for table/seating assignments at my tournies.

 

[improviseallday]

I’m fine with multi-color logos when I’m shopping online...

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... but not when I’m driving around live trying to find a store

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Now imagine them in the not-quite-green not-quite-black color that's in the standard four color deck...

 

[Taghkanic]

Now imagine them in the not-quite-green not-quite-black color that's in the standard four color deck...

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1. Your example should use four colors, not one.

2. You can buy poorly-printed decks in either four-color and two-color. Or well-printed ones. I try to choose options with good blacks and distinct colors.

3. I continue to wonder how the first image below can possibly be harder to read than the second:

(Pardon the quick and dirty Photoshop job, I didn’t go in and clean up all the artifacts.)

 

[upNdown]

Now imagine them in the not-quite-green not-quite-black color that's in the standard four color deck...

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Four pips are two pips too many.

 

[Poker Zombie]

4 color > 4 pip > peek index

When you go through all the options, 4 color isn't that bad.

 

[bigdonkey]

4 color > 4 pip > peek index

When you go through all the options, 4 color isn't that bad.

No need to ever be disappointed. You can have it all!

 

[BGinGA]

So you looking for a 4-color 4-pip peek index?

Edit: and there it is!

 

[Poker Zombie]

So you looking for a 4-color 4-pip peek index?

Edit: and there it is!

I'm out. I also want them in Magnum index.

 

[bigdonkey]

I'm out. I also want them in Magnum index.

Close enough? It should resolve the 2-color/4-color debate to boot.

The new debate should really be domino pips/no domino pips.

 

[improviseallday]

3. I continue to wonder how the first image below can possibly be harder to read than the second:

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(Pardon the quick and dirty Photoshop job, I didn’t go in and clean up all the artifacts.)

They're not harder to read. They are just not good looking as implemented.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Close enough? It should resolve the 2-color/4-color debate to boot.

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The new debate should really be domino pips/no domino pips.

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Green diamond / Blue clover is a massive Photoshop fail.

 

[bigdonkey]

Green diamond / Blue clover is a massive Photoshop fail.

Real life fail, perhaps, but you can buy a deck on Amazon if you are still in doubt.

https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Low-...8&sprefix=4+color+playing+ca,aps,1428&sr=8-20

 

[improviseallday]

Real life fail, perhaps, but you can buy a deck on Amazon if you are still in doubt.

https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Low-Vision-Playing-Cards/dp/B000GT669O/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?crid=3RKR22V7KPS6T&keywords=4+color+playing+cards&qid=1693436488&sprefix=4+color+playing+ca,aps,1428&sr=8-20

Oh wow it's not a Photoshop. Thought it was a meme.

It's... functional.

 

[upNdown]

Real life fail, perhaps, but you can buy a deck on Amazon if you are still in doubt.

https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Low-Vision-Playing-Cards/dp/B000GT669O/ref=mp_s_a_1_20?crid=3RKR22V7KPS6T&keywords=4+color+playing+cards&qid=1693436488&sprefix=4+color+playing+ca,aps,1428&sr=8-20

I won’t!

 

[Coyote]

4 colors are the inevitable future. Provided that green Clubs and blue Diamonds are of a light shade.
I don't get all that agony about disabled people (color blindness). What about people missing one or both arms?
Should poker be banned?
Should all sports be banned in order to not offend invalid people?

 

[bigdonkey]

Oh wow it's not a Photoshop. Thought it was a meme.

It's... functional.

I'm far too serious about playing cards to make that sh#t up. The dominos cards are real too.

https://flexdeckplayingcards.com/next-leg/four-color

 

[bigdonkey]

I won’t!

Better than KEMs. You don't know what you're missing!

 

[Chipandchair]

Broke out a 4 color Copag deck expecting my group to not like them and they loved them. For reference we play a lot of pineapple variation, 3 hand, Scrotum, double board, Omaha hi, type games. I think it helped everyone keep track.

In straight up Hold em’, I think I may prefer the 2 color for no reason.

 

[binoclard]

I don't get all that agony about disabled people (color blindness).

I do not get the color blindness argument at all.

If one can distinguish two shapes that have the same colors, ie clubs and spades, hearts and diamonds, I do not understand how 4 colors would complicate the matters?
Sure, green and red / blue and green may be a bit similar, but not so much as two reds or two blacks, and the shapes are still different, as in a traditional 2 colors deck. What is the fuss about?