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BonScot said:
At the risk of opening another can of worms... what’s everyone’s thoughts on playing kill / half kill games? Does it make the game better?
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Like a bomb pot, it's a good way to "spice things up" from time to time. Players just need to have deep enough stacks to not get crushed by the occasional raised stakes.
 
Saoliver said:
Like a bomb pot, it's a good way to "spice things up" from time to time. Players just need to have deep enough stacks to not get crushed by the occasional raised stakes.
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My knee-jerk reaction to the desire to spice things up is that you're playing the wrong game. (Probably NLHE, or anything in a rock garden, LOL!)
 
abby99 said:
My knee-jerk reaction to the desire to spice things up is that you're playing the wrong game. (Probably NLHE, or anything in a rock garden, LOL!)
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Straddling...bomb pots...kill pots...to each there own. I guess if you are playing a mixed game, you are already spicing things up. But for my crowd, they refuse to play anything other than pot limit hold'em. :banghead: Occasionally, I can get a bomb pot or some straddles out of them. I miss my old game. :(
 
abby99 said:
Yes, both types, in a casino and at home games. I guess it depends on what you mean by making the game better.

Given a choice, I prefer playing without a kill, but I won't avoid a game just because it has one. My thinking is, pick your stakes and go with it. The bouncing back and forth sometimes gets to me.
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We’ve been playing NL for 16 years and any changes I introduce are met with high drama :LOL: :laugh:
I don’t want to put my players off so might just do as you suggest and stick to the same stakes...
 
JustinInMN said:
Definitely a good thing you got moar chips :).



I tend to agree. Though I will admit the half kill at my local casino 8/16 game has been good for action.
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Ok it’s starting to look like Kill games are a bit gimmicky. Just as well I didn’t splash out on a custom Kill / Half Kill button... ah to hell with it I’ll probably do that anyway :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
BonScot said:
At the risk of opening another can of worms... what’s everyone’s thoughts on playing kill / half kill games? Does it make the game better?
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I love playing with a kill.

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Ace to five single draw used to often be played with a kill, but the kill wasn't implemented like it is now in Holdem or Omaha.
(This is a five card draw variant, so each player is dealt give cards.) After the last player receives his second card, the dealer pauses for about two seconds during which any player can declare "Kill", regardless of position. The first player to declare a kill them posts a live bet equal to double the big blind. After the remaining cards are dealt, the killer acts last unless the pot is raised.

This method allows a player to raise the stakes after seeing two cards (usually something like bug-ace or ace-duece, but bluff kills are not unheard of at snug tables.)
 
APatHand said:
Ace to five single draw used to often be played with a kill, but the kill wasn't implemented like it is now in Holdem or Omaha.
(This is a five card draw variant, so each player is dealt give cards.) After the last player receives his second card, the dealer pauses for about two seconds during which any player can declare "Kill", regardless of position. The first player to declare a kill them posts a live bet equal to double the big blind. After the remaining cards are dealt, the killer acts last unless the pot is raised.

This method allows a player to raise the stakes after seeing two cards (usually something like bug-ace or ace-duece, but bluff kills are not unheard of at snug tables.)
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That sounds interesting. Might give that a go...
 
Poker Zombie said:
Join the club. I may never use it, but I got it.
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Oh I didn’t stop there... I stumbled across a group buy and as well as TWO Kill / No Kill buttons I got two Hi/Lo buttons for a game I don’t play, 6 All In / Call buttons because someone saying “all in” isn’t enough anymore and 8 rebuy buttons which I decided are a must have for my game. I think I’ve got a problem....
 
I also have the Hi/Low button for games that I don't play, and a High Hand button, though I use the monitors to indicate who (and what) the High Hand is. Also couple "missed blinds" markers despite the fact we usually play tournaments, and when playing cash we still have scheduled breaks.

I thought about All-in markers, but without a dedicated dealer it's easier to shove chips or toss forward a bounty marker - which I have 50 of, but seating for 24, and we have never pitched a bounty tournament.
 
APatHand said:
IMHO, people who only play NLHE or PLO are missing out on so much that poker has to offer.
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I've played the full gamut of circus games. I prefer Holdem, so I will almost always play that if it is an option. I could give reasons, but that would be a different thread. Suffice to say, if you are playing more than X hours of poker a year, holdem can get stale. X varies from person to person. I have not reached my variable, so those other games are simply not as strategic, and therefore less fun.
 
Back when we played limit we did a kill a few times. It wasn’t my idea but a few of the players wanted to do it. No one really liked it. I didn’t like it either and it faded away after two or three tries.
All the guys who asked for it from my group could be described as more of the gambler type than the poker player type. Guys that we’re all really into sports betting and played casino table games.
At that time the poker boom was coming into full swing and the game was being viewed as more of a strategic game than in the past.
My poker friends totally abandoned any type of circus game after around 2002. I personally haven’t played anything but straight poker since probably 1997 and back then I really wasn’t into poker. Stud got me seriously interested in poker.

I’m perfectly content playing holdem. It’s the perfect poker game and never gets boring to me.
 
I'm not a full-time, card-carrying carny: I stick to a midway of about 20 games. The only games that might be considered to have "wild" cards are draw (high, single draw) and lowball (single draw) both of which use a bug.
I don't play Chow-aha or Bingalaha, even though I know both Mike Chow and Don 'Bingo' Rieck.

Although this really has more to do with the old adage, "Never play a game against the guy that invented it."
 
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JustinInMN said:
I will agree that circus games, especially with wild cards are less strategic. But there are fascinating elements to stud and draw games that are as interesting to me as hold'em games.
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You obliterated my context by eliminating the part where I mention I have not reached that point. Games where I don't have a deep rich strategy are considerably less strategic to me. Sorry for the confusion.
 
WedgeRock said:
I've never tried heroin. I guess I am not entitled to my opinion that it is bad. I must try it first.
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From a therapist friend of mine, working with all kinds of addicted people: "Heroin's worst and most dangerous feature is that it's plain wonderful, hands down".
You could say the same about poker chips:D
 
Poker Zombie said:
You obliterated my context by eliminating the part where I mention I have not reached that point. Games where I don't have a deep rich strategy are considerably less strategic to me. Sorry for the confusion.
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I guess I glommed on to the following as a blanket statement about all games.

Poker Zombie said:
so those other games are simply not as strategic, and therefore less fun.
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Just wanted to say a kind word about the other classic forms. Sorry for missing this isn't relevant to you. :P
 
Coyote said:
From a therapist friend of mine, working with all kinds of addicted people: "Heroin's worst and most dangerous feature is that it's plain wonderful, hands down".
You could say the same about poker chips:D
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Sam Kinnison commented that rehab was like $30k, but if you had $30k, you didn't have a problem yet.
 
Another question... when do you need (or do you need) a Hi / Lo button? I assume it’s for Omaha 8 or better. I’m going to try and introduce Omaha into my game but can’t see where this button comes into it.
Does it replace the dealer button and when do you flip it to show Hi or Lo?
 
BonScot said:
Another question... when do you need (or do you need) a Hi / Lo button? I assume it’s for Omaha 8 or better. I’m going to try and introduce Omaha into my game but can’t see where this button comes into it.
Does it replace the dealer button and when do you flip it to show Hi or Lo?
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It serves as a good reminder when there is a rotation of games that include both high only and hi lo forms. I would still keep the dealer button as usual, even if using the hi low button.
 
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JustinInMN said:
It serves as a good reminder when there is a rotation of games that include both high only and hi lo forms. I would still keep the dealer button as usual, even if using the hi love button.
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I keep the HI/LO button in the middle of the table, near where the board cards would be. Everyone should see it from there.
 

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