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Am I the only one who doesn't like flips? (1 Viewer)

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I don't really like flips. As @Highli99 said in another thread, I'll do flips after a session to be a good sport, but only if I'm ahead. And for me that means ahead by a decent bit. I'm throwing away all my hard-fought winnings because some gambling fool wants to catch up. There are plenty of ways to gamble - roulette, lottery, sports betting - I don't play poker to gamble; I play poker because I enjoy poker. And if other people want to do flips, have fun! But I don't care for them.
And I really don't understand big flips. If we're playing poker for $100 buyins and the table wants to do a $10 flip, sure, I understand that. But the guys who want to toss hundreds in - the amount of a full buy-in? That just goes right over my head.
 
My games are small stakes to begin with, but the people taking flips typically just have low/odd amounts they don't want to cash out. I know I'd rather race my remaining $2.50 with someone else instead and try to get a fiver instead of insisting on getting two dollars and two quarters paid out. Never had anyone try to flip for a whole buy-in or more.
 
Flips to tidy up stack sizes for cash out is alright, but I'm not really a fan of them outside of that at all. If I wanted to just straight up gamble on the outcome of something outside of my control I'd play table games or get robbed by the one armed bandit. The thing I like most about poker is that while there's still an element of gamble to it, it's still largely a game of skill against skill. Flips take that way entirely.

The first time I'd really run into it was at the casino earlier this year though. They were doing $200 10 person flips for $1800 to the winner (casino kept one buy in for their fee I guess). Absolutely bonkers to me but they'd fill 'em up pretty quickly.
 
demonnic said:
Flips to tidy up stack sizes for cash out is alright, but I'm not really a fan of them outside of that at all. If I wanted to just straight up gamble on the outcome of something outside of my control I'd play table games or get robbed by the one armed bandit. The thing I like most about poker is that while there's still an element of gamble to it, it's still largely a game of skill against skill. Flips take that way entirely.

The first time I'd really run into it was at the casino earlier this year though. They were doing $200 10 person flips for $1800 to the winner (casino kept one buy in for their fee I guess). Absolutely bonkers to me but they'd fill 'em up pretty quickly.
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I put this in Home Games because I thought that was the only place where flips existed. A casino raking 10% off a 30 second game is almost as nuts as the people playing it. At least in a home game there's no rake to a flip, so your odds are still better than blackjack or baccarat.
 
demonnic said:
Flips to tidy up stack sizes for cash out is alright, but I'm not really a fan of them outside of that at all. If I wanted to just straight up gamble on the outcome of something outside of my control I'd play table games or get robbed by the one armed bandit. The thing I like most about poker is that while there's still an element of gamble to it, it's still largely a game of skill against skill. Flips take that way entirely.

The first time I'd really run into it was at the casino earlier this year though. They were doing $200 10 person flips for $1800 to the winner (casino kept one buy in for their fee I guess). Absolutely bonkers to me but they'd fill 'em up pretty quickly.
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Jeez, 10% off the top for running a flip? They'd be better off betting that money on nearly any table game. Agree though, if I'm just looking to gamble I'd rather play some craps/blackjack/UTH, not toss coins with my friends.
 
upNdown said:
I put this in Home Games because I thought that was the only place where flips existed. A casino raking 10% off a 30 second game is almost as nuts as the people playing it. At least in a home game there's no rake to a flip, so your odds are still better than blackjack or baccarat.
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Yeah, I was completely flabbergasted. I don't know if they run them normally, I was there during the WSOPC event and haven't been back there since, but even if it was just during that event I must have seen at least 10 flips that day. Might as well just light money on fire. $200 to deal one hand of poker.
 
I don’t think flips are great, I guess maybe occasionally if there is a vibe at the table (maybe end of the night) for a couple BBs then sure but not for a significant amount because if your up and you lose then all your hard work goes out the window because of a chance game. May as well shoot dice if that’s the case.
 
You aren’t the only one. I’m not sure I’ve ever done one. Maybe I did under peer pressure at some point lol.
I also don’t really care for high hand jackpots and other gimmicks all that much.
 
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Nothing wrong with some flips on our time…… Just sayin.
 
I will for a few bucks, but, that's my threshold for degen. There are a couple of regs that I play with that will flip for 200bb. I'll watch, I'll even deal, but I ain't flipping for entire starting stacks. Nuts.
 
I love doing flips, but just for the entertainment. I’ll do $20 flips just cause it’s fun. I don’t enjoy any form of pure gambling (where skill/knowledge cannot effect results) when myself or anyone is playing with an amount of money that is relevant to them.

…with that being said, I also like doing red/black, 7deuce, and the button game while playing hold em.

I also like the horse racing game now (thanks to @BamaT8ter). I guess I’ve descended into the pits of degeneracy at this point :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
BamaT8ter said:
@Beakertwang loves flips. Any form of raw gambling is his jam. @shorticus hates them.
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I hate flips so much. I’ll participate in a couple small flips at the end of our home games, just so I don’t seem like a stick in the mud, but I receive no thrills from risking even small amounts of money with no agency, only a sense of dread.
 
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I don't really like flips. As @Highli99 said in another thread, I'll do flips after a session to be a good sport, but only if I'm ahead. And for me that means ahead by a decent bit. I'm throwing away all my hard-fought winnings because some gambling fool wants to catch up. There are plenty of ways to gamble - roulette, lottery, sports betting - I don't play poker to gamble; I play poker because I enjoy poker. And if other people want to do flips, have fun! But I don't care for them.
And I really don't understand big flips. If we're playing poker for $100 buyins and the table wants to do a $10 flip, sure, I understand that. But the guys who want to toss hundreds in - the amount of a full buy-in? That just goes right over my head.
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Have I mentioned you’re a nit, Rob? ;)
 
I try to offer/propose cash flips during tournaments.

Flop card

Chip races

Anything

Flips are fun. Always fun to be down multiple tourney buy-ins just from red/black. And then just be aware your bets are getting called, so my advice is to adjust and bluff less in the actual tournament.
 
People pay to flip in casinos? That’s bonkers.

Although when it folds to blinds, instead of just shutting the hand down I prefer to pick a random number and run it down (usually around $169).

Or if there’s another person folding while commenting about their horrid hand while man is bad, I’ll fold and offer to run a side game - worse hand wins $50ish. We just hold our cards back and someone wins $50, no rake.

#makepokerfunagain #bethechangeyouwanttosee
 
Casino flips? You guys live in a cave? Been happening for years. It's a bracelet event FFS. Three years running.

https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/2024-wsop/event-85-1000-flip-go/chips.663996.htm

They have also been offering main event flips for years.


Single-table flips - a special satellite offering​

There is one more type of satellite: the single-table flip. Ten people get dealt three cards and play a single hand of "Crazy Pineapple," which is Texas Hold 'Em with a twist. After the flop, everyone discards one of their three cards. The turn and river are then dealt. At the end of the madness, whoever holds the winning hand wins the entire prize pool.

Single table flips that award entries directly into the Main Event will be available starting on July 2 and will run based on demand until registration closes on July 8 at the end of the level 7 break.
 

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