bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
Is a Pop-Tart a Calzone??
Are hot dogs (in buns) sandwiches? (16 Viewers)
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is called a "sandwich" (in English that is, the very same word) in Thessaloniki, Macedonia, northern Greece.
Apparently, out of illiteracy and stubbornly sticking to that, out of village-mindedness.
This is a PITTA bread (NOT a PITA
) with either SOUVLAKI (meat grilled on a little skewer, like here) in it, or GYROS (as in gyroscope, meat grilled on a big revolving vertical spit) in it. That's the correct way of putting things, used only in Epirus (north-western Greece) to my knowledge.
Still, in mighty Athens they call the whole thing a souvlaki
and it's hard to distinguish it from just the propper souvlaki (just the meat) which they call "kalamaki" (little straw) in the capital city
As you can see, idiocy and wide-spread confusion is not the privilege of any particular nation.
is called a "sandwich" (in English that is, the very same word) in Thessaloniki, Macedonia, northern Greece.
Apparently, out of illiteracy and stubbornly sticking to that, out of village-mindedness.
This is a PITTA bread (NOT a PITA
) with either SOUVLAKI (meat grilled on a little skewer, like here) in it, or GYROS (as in gyroscope, meat grilled on a big revolving vertical spit) in it. That's the correct way of putting things, used only in Epirus (north-western Greece) to my knowledge.Still, in mighty Athens they call the whole thing a souvlaki
and it's hard to distinguish it from just the propper souvlaki (just the meat) which they call "kalamaki" (little straw) in the capital cityAs you can see, idiocy and wide-spread confusion is not the privilege of any particular nation.
Darthhoodie
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Wait... you mean those people that have been pronouncing it "JY-ros" (as opposed to "YEE-ros") have been doing it right all along? I mean, I'd never say Yee-roscope.
Hm, I always thought it was pronounced "GHEE-ros"Wait... you mean those people that have been pronouncing it "JY-ros" (as opposed to "YEE-ros") have been doing it right all along? I mean, I'd never say Yee-roscope.
Wait... you mean those people that have been pronouncing it "JY-ros" (as opposed to "YEE-ros") have been doing it right all along? I mean, I'd never say Yee-roscope.
In Greek, it's pronounced Yeeros, and hence Yeeroskopio.
It depends on whether you want to pronounce it in the original (Greek) form or you want to be consistent in English.
Is that a deconstructed hot dog sandwich? Looks messy.Calling bullshit on this one, Shin. You were happy as hell here.View attachment 473857
FTFY
Ha! English is notorious for its inconsistencies in pronunciation, spelling, and other aspects of linguistics.
He threw a baseball through the window even though it was a tough throw.
JRReynolds6181
Two Pair
No. End of discussion.
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bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
Brownies are omeletes.
I believe that Gyros predate Tacos. Therefore, Tacos are Gyros, sir. Good day.
DeeVee8
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I think if a hotdog was a sandwich, the bag of bread you buy would be called sandwich buns.
Depends on whether Tacos are pre-Colombian or not. If pre-Colombian, it's a tough call.
Anyway, meat grilled on skewers / spits is NOT ancient Greek (Greeks used ovens, holes in the ground and grates), but rather central Asian, introduced to Greeks through contacts with the Persians, and eventually (and fatefully) by the Turks' invasion and conquest of all Greek lands.
Given that Native Americans were also of central / eastern Asian descent, the two (tacos and gyros - donner in Turkish) could originate in the very same place, namely central Asian steppes and Siberian forests.
Notice that gyros, correctly used, describes just the grilled meat, while taco (I think) is the whole wrap.
If you are a Turk (or any kind of Turkic person, including Turkmen, Uzbek, Kazakh, Kalmyk, Buryat, Kyrgyz and other friendly tribes
), yes.In all Turkic languages, kebab means grilled or cooked meat of one kind or another.
Sish kebab (souvlaki), donner kebab (gyros), tash kebab (meat in the stew with red sauce) etc.
Interestingly (and sadly IMHO) the word kebab has remained in use in Greece, to describe hot-spiced grilled oblong meatballs. Ironically, these are called kofte in Turkey's version of Turkish, coming from the Greek kofto (cut/minced) meat.
BukNaked36
Straight
legend672
Full House
THIS
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is called a "sandwich" (in English that is, the very same word) in Thessaloniki, Macedonia, northern Greece.
Apparently, out of illiteracy and stubbornly sticking to that, out of village-mindedness.
This is a PITTA bread (NOT a PITA
Still, in mighty Athens they call the whole thing a souvlaki
As you can see, idiocy and wide-spread confusion is not the privilege of any particular nation.
mystery meat......like in the Grateful Dead parking lots....
Don't know what kind of meat was sold in the Greatful Dead parking lots, but souvlaki (and gyros) meat quality can vary a lot in Greece, from superb/premium to sub-par.
Any grade above the latter (ie down to mediocre) will enchant unfamiliar and unsuspecting foreigners, being salted and peppered to death (the meat) and them (foreigners) being generally drunk, while on vacations.
Any grade above the latter (ie down to mediocre) will enchant unfamiliar and unsuspecting foreigners, being salted and peppered to death (the meat) and them (foreigners) being generally drunk, while on vacations.
I'm really late to this discussion but here is an argument for hotdogs being a sandwich: Weird Al in the movie UHF created a twinkie wiener sandwich (a hot dog with a twinkie as the bun). Here is a video of "Binging with Babish" recreating that twinkie wiener sandwich and then trying to improve upon it:
Is one supposed to disassemble the sandwiches in order to heat the wiener/sausage? The wiener went directly from package to Twinkie -- not sure about the sausage.
I learn so many things on this forum. Some days, every thread is an adventure!
Damn you! I came here to post this, and you beat me by a couple hours.
I have given up asking Greek, Turkish, and Persian acquaintances about where their favourite traditional foods originate, because they will each angrily swear that they originated it and the others are heathen barbarians that usurped them and changed all the names. I just eat the damn things.
And as far as mystery meat is concerned, I *never* eat at a Chinese restaurant next door to a veterinarian office. And I'm Chinese. You don't want to know the things I've seen.
Luckily, my favorite local Chinese place is next to a grocery store. Also, the owners live in my neighborhood, and we have a good friend who is a local health inspector and always gives us the skinny on where not to go.
I've got this one covered.
justsomedude
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