SOLD Auction: 1100 TRK Deadwoods (3 Viewers)

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Shit... You guys are killing me lol. I just joined here last month and I've already dropped like 8k on a bunch of chips because of all you assholes (1000 Pick Hobson's Riverside TRKs, 1200 Grove Bud Jones CICs, a set of 600 Rounders CSQs, 1200 fake-ass Pharaohs, a set of 4 of the authentic Rounders movie chips, a bunch of singles, and even a damn new BBO table for another 2k...) and now you go and drop this bomb on me??!!! Arrrgggghhhh.

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT ANY PAULSONS YET!!!

No one's bidding yet? If I get these, they may go back up. Let me think about it. I might be in on these, but I gotta hit the brakes at some point lol
 
Shit... You guys are killing me lol. I just joined here last month and I've already dropped like 8k on a bunch of chips because of all you assholes (1000 Pick Hobson's Riverside TRKs, 1200 Grove Bud Jones CICs, a set of 600 Rounders CSQs, 1200 fake-ass Pharaohs, a set of 4 of the authentic Rounders movie chips, a bunch of singles, and even a damn new BBO table for another 2k...) and now you go and drop this bomb on me??!!! Arrrgggghhhh.

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT ANY PAULSONS YET!!!l

...you should feel the silky smoothness of my extra Terrible's...:sneaky:
 
Agree, don't do it! A much better idea would be to just have a regular auction, so people know where the bidding stands! You'll probably get a higher price this way too (no guarantee, but chances are...). If someone wants to be an anonymous bidder for some reason, they could PM you and you could post their bid as an anonymous bid (this is weird, but OK).

You can run your "auction" however you want. But I think this format is a big enough turn off that some people won't participate when they otherwise would (just a guess).

On a lighter note, these are very cool chips, beautiful in fact. GLWA

I know you said there is no reason to respond, so Im not directing this at you, but to the broader audience, while addressing your quote specifically.

I would think it would seem Real shady, if the person selling the chips kept bumping the price through an "anonymous bidder". I set this up as a blind auction to accomplish two goals

1. Allow the sale to run for a week in order to reach the biggest audience, and give equal opportunity for someone to purchase these chips
2. get a true market value (which I have no idea what that currently is) Its entirely possible that my list price is above market.

I really don't care if its called an auction, Best Offer Sale, etc., but some people may have a different opinion, and appear to be turned off by the way I am running things. Granted, I can't know for sure if they would really be willing to pay what they are saying they would pay, or if they are just saying that because they know they won't bid with this structure.

Truth be told, there are currently no bids on the chips, so I don't feel like I am doing a disservice to anyone by discussing things openly. I have received a few generous offers for a portion of the set, but I am not looking to break it up.

I would be happy to run this as a regular auction if people are more comfortable with that format. I am happy to close this thread and open a WTS best offer. You guys know what my base price is, so there is no secrecy there. If you want me to be able to close the sale at any time if I get a high enough offer, then I am more than happy to have that luxury as well. I really thought I was structuring this in the most straightforward way possible, and doing it blind puts a little more emphasis on making the right offer, as opposed to just having the deepest pocket. Until someone makes a bid I am open to discussing all options. If a bid is placed, then I feel compelled to let things run its course.

good news/bad news depending on your where you sit - I just locked up a NFL playoff elimination pool, so I now have the cash to fund my other purchase. If these don't sell by Sunday, they are probably going back in the vault.
 
These are beautiful chips. They stack like crazy, are very rare and I am fond of the inlay. Incredibly large quality set. Unfortunately it would cost a fortune to bring it to France where I live. If you don't sell it, I would be happy for you as I am afraid you might have regrets if you do. Whoever purchases this will surely not regret it. I am not talking about price, I have no idea of their actual worth, only talking quality wise and aesthetics. GLWA
 
Shit... You guys are killing me lol. I just joined here last month and I've already dropped like 8k on a bunch of chips because of all you assholes (1000 Pick Hobson's Riverside TRKs, 1200 Grove Bud Jones CICs, a set of 600 Rounders CSQs, 1200 fake-ass Pharaohs, a set of 4 of the authentic Rounders movie chips, a bunch of singles, and even a damn new BBO table for another 2k...) and now you go and drop this bomb on me??!!! Arrrgggghhhh.

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT ANY PAULSONS YET!!!

No one's bidding yet? If I get these, they may go back up. Let me think about it. I might be in on these, but I gotta hit the brakes at some point lol


Pics??
 
It has been brought to my attention that I may be doing a less than stellar job explaining how the bidding works in this type of auction.

If you are interested in the chips you should PM me your "Best Offer". If you are the highest offer, you will pay your offer price, regardless of what other people bid. Therefore, you want to carefully calculate an offer price that you think will be high enough to win the auction, while at the same time not grossly overpaying. At no point during the auction will I try to influence low bidders to increase their bids, because they have been outbid. You will not know where you stand until a winner is declared on Sunday, at which point you will either win the chips for your offer price, or they will be going to someone else. You can at any point during the auction increase or decrease your bid if you if you so choose.

Examples:
you bid 2860 and no one else bids, you win the chips for 2860

you bid 4000 and no one else bids, you win the chips for 4000

you bid 4000 and another person bids 3800, you win the chips for 4000

you bid 4000 and someone else bids 4005, you lose the chips

At conclusion of the auction, I would be willing to disclose to the winner the amount of the second closest bid (if they want to know), and with the winner's permission I would be willing to disclose both amounts publicly in this thread.

I have decided to let this auction run its course with the original rules set forth. I am happy to answer any additional questions, but will make no further comments regarding bidding activity.
 
I don't like the idea of locking up a few grand without any clue as to whether or not it's actually locked up. I don't understand the desire to keep the price a secret. Silent auctions are generally only held for items that sell for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, like artwork and rare jewels at an auction house where the bidders wish to keep their identities hidden. Add me to the list of serious potential buyers that has decided not to bid on these.
 
I don't like the idea of locking up a few grand without any clue as to whether or not it's actually locked up. I don't understand the desire to keep the price a secret. Silent auctions are generally only held for items that sell for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, like artwork and rare jewels at an auction house where the bidders wish to keep their identities hidden. Add me to the list of serious potential buyers that has decided not to bid on these.

FWIW,

I said I don't have any issue, with people posting their bid amounts if they want. Not sure why they would want to though
 
Someone has a serious shot at scooping these up at $2860! Would be a pretty sweet score!
 
Please note the end time of this auction is Sunday January 31st. I had mistakenly listed Sunday as Feb 1. Op has been updated.
 
I don't like the idea of locking up a few grand without any clue as to whether or not it's actually locked up. I don't understand the desire to keep the price a secret. Silent auctions are generally only held for items that sell for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, like artwork and rare jewels at an auction house where the bidders wish to keep their identities hidden. Add me to the list of serious potential buyers that has decided not to bid on these.


You may not like it, but your statements simply aren't true. Silent Auction format is commonly used and I've participated in many item purchases ranging from $25-1000. Also, an (I assume) unintended consequence of your comments is to malign a respected member of this community. Scott is perfectly capable of explaining his actions and it appears to me he's gone to great pains to do that.

I've made a number of purchases from Scott and have played poker with him many times. I'd rate him in the top 1% of people I've known regarding honesty and integrity.

Sorry if this sounds harsh or if would-be buyers are butt-hurt because a different style of selling was used and they lost the opportunity to negotiate and low-ball. If I owned this set, I'd wish I'd been half as clever and fair in finding a way of making it available.
 
I wholeheartedly uphold Scott's right to conduct his business transactions however he chooses (and don't question his integrity in the least), but it's my right to conduct my business as I choose, as well.

I was a very serious potential buyer of these chips, and chose to not participate in the sale as structured. Either give me a price, or at least let me know where I stand with my offer (aka auction), or I'll spend my money elsewhere. Did I lose out? Absolutely, but that was by my choice. Did Scott lose out? Probably (in terms of a resulting lower final sales price), but again, that was by his choice. We both got what we wanted. Or did we?

Not butt-hurt by any means, but I don't think the sales approach taken was all that clever, if it cost him potential bidders. However, it's all good, and I (again) wish Scott the very best with his sale.
 
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I don't like the idea of locking up a few grand without any clue as to whether or not it's actually locked up. I don't understand the desire to keep the price a secret. Silent auctions are generally only held for items that sell for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, like artwork and rare jewels at an auction house where the bidders wish to keep their identities hidden. Add me to the list of serious potential buyers that has decided not to bid on these.

I'd completely disagree with your statement for all the reasons @courage mentioned. There are plenty of good reasons sellers may not want to publicly disclose bid and sale amounts. If I wanted these chips I would not hesitate to buy them.
 
You may not like it, but your statements simply aren't true. Silent Auction format is commonly used and I've participated in many item purchases ranging from $25-1000. Also, an (I assume) unintended consequence of your comments is to malign a respected member of this community. Scott is perfectly capable of explaining his actions and it appears to me he's gone to great pains to do that.

I've made a number of purchases from Scott and have played poker with him many times. I'd rate him in the top 1% of people I've known regarding honesty and integrity.

Sorry if this sounds harsh or if would-be buyers are butt-hurt because a different style of selling was used and they lost the opportunity to negotiate and low-ball. If I owned this set, I'd wish I'd been half as clever and fair in finding a way of making it available.

I think you're reading way too much into this @courage. Scott is awesome! I have nothing against him.

Without question, I would have posted a bid for these if it were an auction format. I'm too new here to really have a feel for what these chips are worth though. I just don't have a strong enough sense of the market yet. I don't know if I should bid $2500, $3000, or $5000. If it were an auction format, and someone else bid $3000, I could place a bid at $3100, and be happy with my bid, knowing that if I later changed my mind and wanted to unload these back to the forums, that the most I'm likely to lose would be $100. But with this format, I might overshoot by a grand or more, then when I later decide to unload them, I find out what they're really worth and lose money. An auction format gives me a good sense of what others value these chips at and allows me to make an informed decision that I'm comfortable with. If the bids start to get too high, I can confidently bow out, but if they're in my target range, I can compete.

I'm not mad at Scott for selling his chips in the manner in which he chooses. That'd be silly. They're his chips. I'm just letting my voice be heard so that he can get a sense of what the potential buyers for these chips are thinking and make an informed decision on how he wants to sell them. If enough buyers share my viewpoint, he may decide to change his strategy.

FWIW, I'm still debating whether or not to bid on these chips. But if it were an auction format my first bid would have been posted days ago.
 
I don't have a dog in the fight and will apologize if I've mucked up Scott's thread, but I'll say that those who self-identify as "serious potential buyers" ITT yet didn't submit the minimum bid can't really lay claim to the label. In that sense it's not much different than a min bid on eBay hoping you win, regardless if one agrees with the format.
 
Perhaps someone will come in with some insane offer and he'll benefit because of it. But my hunch is that it's going to end up costing him money. I think Scott just enjoys a good gamble! Can't blame a man for that! :D But I hope he wins big on this auction.

I would have paid quite a bit for these chips (I just paid $5 a chip for those yellow Pick Hobson's in my profile pic from an auction earlier this month, and $8 a chip for a rack of those red, white and blue 100s). I love TRKs and don't mind spending my money on them.
 
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