SOLD Auction: 1100 TRK Deadwoods (2 Viewers)

[RainmanTrail]

^unlike^

That's not very helpful to the community.

Some wish to help the community, others wish to exploit the community. I'm not a fan of those who wish to exploit the community for small profits.

Speaking about the buyer of course, not Scott

 

[ssanel54]

I don't think these will be flipped. The buyer seems genuinely excited to have a nice playable set

 

[derekdd23]

Winning bid is going to be around 3200-3300. Winning bidder is a _________ and wishes to not disclose the price so that they can resell them for a profit and not let you use their purchase price for leverage.

Not everyone buys things to resell at a profit. I have privately bought many chips with no price disclosures or anyone knowing it was even me who bought them. I am not in the business of flipping and have even sold or traded extras at my cost to individuals who needed them to complete their sets, also privately. Just because you dont know what happens, doesn't make it wrong. While it is possible that someone will try to flip these, it seems like a lot of work since they were already priced near market value and wont make that much. Also since the breakdown is public, many people here wont even buy them if they feel they are getting gouged.

Also, I did not buy these. I would have a few weeks ago, but I am over budget currently.

 

[courage]

Some wish to help the community, others wish to exploit the community. I'm not a fan of those who wish to exploit the community for small profits.

Speaking about the buyer of course, not Scott

Please explain how you know this is the situation. Jesus, give it a rest.

 

[H|Q]

And since this sale has concluded I feel like I won't be detracting too much. But I have no problem with someone making money on chips. The seller needs/wants the money and the buyer supplies it. Opportunity has value, and if you have the opportunity to buy or sell go for it.

I have lost plenty on chips, so I certainly look to make a few bucks when I can. I don't buy chips to strictly make a profit, but I have made money or chips on sets. I know the buyers were happy and I was motivated enough seller to do it again.

 

[ruskba]

Some wish to help the community, others wish to exploit the community. I'm not a fan of those who wish to exploit the community for small profits.

Speaking about the buyer of course, not Scott

See the following from a thread where some of us were trying to buy a set of Bud Jones:

If I buy it, it would probably be to turn it for a profit though, and I'm just too busy to deal with that right now. Probably not a buyer, but I suspect there's money to be made on this lot.

Seems to me like you're just fine with exploiting the community for profit.

 

[jbutler]

Maybe the buyer will be only too happy to put up awesome new pr0n of the set when he receives it and therefore reveal his identity as the buyer, but doesn't want to disclose the price because:

(a) he overpaid and he knows it and wants to not think about it or hear about it anymore; or
(b) he underpaid and he knows it and doesn't want to see you all tell Scott what a sucker he was; or
(c) he doesn't want his wife/husband/girlfriend/cat seeing how much he spent on these chips; or
(d) he overpaid because he wanted this set something awful, but doesn't want others to feel like they can take advantage of him in the future.

Or all or none of the above or other reasons I can't think of. Blows me away that someone would assume the decision makes the buyer an asshole. Tells me more about those making the assessment to be honest.

 

[RainmanTrail]

Please explain how you know this is the situation. Jesus, give it a rest.

???

 

[BGinGA]

For the record, I never disclose the details of my chip expenditures to my cat. Ever.

 

[courage]

For the record, I never disclose the details of my chip expenditures to my cat. Ever.

^^unlike.

That's not very helpful to the community.

 

[David O]

Can we all get along? Member or thread bashing really does not help a community if we are all trying to help the community. Quarrel or disagreements are best left to private messages. We are all passionate for the hobby and will not always agree but as in life we can all learn to agree, to disagree. (Off of my soapbox)

NOW! CHIP ON!!!

 

[BGinGA]

The cat community can blow me.

 

[jbutler]

Buyer's cat when he goes through buyer's PMs and sees the price. This is why we keep these things private.

 

[RainmanTrail]

See the following from a thread where some of us were trying to buy a set of Bud Jones:



Seems to me like you're just fine with exploiting the community for profit.

You're missing the entire point. It's not about profiting from chips. It's about transparency. I have no problem profiting from chips. But I'm going to be forthright about it (as evidenced by that post). There isn't exactly a price guide, like Beckett, for these chips. Very rarely do we as a community get an opportunity to know what the market price is for a lot of these nicer sets. This information is very valuable to the community, and is beneficial for ALL of us to know about.

When I talk about exploiting the community, I'm talking about people who come in here solely to buy chips and flip them for a profit, who don't participate in the community. There are people here that sell chips below market value because they want to 'pay it forward' so-to-speak. But sometimes, they just get exploited when someone sells a set for $80 because that's what they paid 5 years ago, and the sale goes to the first PM, only to get bought up by someone that doesn't even participate here at all. Then, two days later, those chips are sitting on eBay at $300. If you don't think that's worth protecting against, then we have different viewpoints.

@BGinGA posted earlier about another chipper who just logged into this thread (almost certainly to post a bid on these as he replied "I don't know what you're talking about") that is well known as a chip flipper. He signed up here in 2014 but has all of 3 posts. You guys can sell to whomever you want, however you want, but this is what I'm talking about when I say that my preference would be to protect against exploitation.

I'm not interested in selling chips to secret bidders that want to keep their intentions hidden and that don't wish to contribute to the community. If I wanted to do that, I'd just post them on eBay.

Again, not mad at anyone here. I'm just saying how the chipping world would be if I were king. Which I'm not.

Carry on hating me though if you wish. I'm ok with that.

 

[BGinGA]

@BGinGA posted earlier about another chipper

Not me. I think it was @links_slayer (too lazy to go back and look).

 

[BGinGA]

I'm not interested in selling chips to secret bidders that want to keep their intentions hidden and that don't wish to contribute to the community. If I wanted to do that, I'd just post them on eBay or sell via private PM.

^FYP, at least how it applies to me.

 

[ssanel54]

@BGinGA posted earlier about another chipper who just logged into this thread (almost certainly to post a bid on these as he replied "I don't know what you're talking about") that is well known as a chip flipper. He signed up here in 2014 but has all of 3 posts. You guys can sell to whomever you want, however you want, but this is what I'm talking about when I say that my preference would be to protect against exploitation.

I'm not interested in selling chips to secret bidders that want to keep their intentions hidden and that don't wish to contribute to the community. If I wanted to do that, I'd just post them on eBay..

I think you are definitely seeing things that aren't there. If you are referring to Dolomite, he was not the buyer. He was more of my chip mentor. But he was a notorious flipper on CT, though seldomly for a profit. Used to be, if you ever bought a set, at one point Dolo probably owned them. Like I said though, he's in retirement.

 

[RainmanTrail]

I think you are definitely seeing things that aren't there. If you are referring to Dolomite, he was not the buyer. He was more of my chip mentor. But he was a notorious flipper on CT, though seldomly for a profit. Used to be, if you ever bought a set, at one point Dolo probably owned them. Like I said though, he's in retirement.

I think you're right

 

[links_slayer]

Not me. I think it was @links_slayer (too lazy to go back and look).

itt? i only have one post (prior to this one) in here. and i don't recall saying anything about anyone's join date/post count/flipping intentions (it's been a weird few weeks for me irl so it's entirely possible that i'm mistaken here).

edit: i see that scott just reference dolomite. not too many chippers have verbs named after them. "I totally just dolo'd this set and posted it for sale before it arrived in the mail"

 

[gopherblue]

You're missing the entire point. It's not about profiting from chips. It's about transparency. I have no problem profiting from chips. But I'm going to be forthright about it (as evidenced by that post). There isn't exactly a price guide, like Beckett, for these chips. Very rarely do we as a community get an opportunity to know what the market price is for a lot of these nicer sets. This information is very valuable to the community, and is beneficial for ALL of us to know about.

When I talk about exploiting the community, I'm talking about people who come in here solely to buy chips and flip them for a profit, who don't participate in the community. There are people here that sell chips below market value because they want to 'pay it forward' so-to-speak. But sometimes, they just get exploited when someone sells a set for $80 because that's what they paid 5 years ago, and the sale goes to the first PM, only to get bought up by someone that doesn't even participate here at all. Then, two days later, those chips are sitting on eBay at $300. If you don't think that's worth protecting against, then we have different viewpoints.

@BGinGA posted earlier about another chipper who just logged into this thread (almost certainly to post a bid on these as he replied "I don't know what you're talking about") that is well known as a chip flipper. He signed up here in 2014 but has all of 3 posts. You guys can sell to whomever you want, however you want, but this is what I'm talking about when I say that my preference would be to protect against exploitation.

I'm not interested in selling chips to secret bidders that want to keep their intentions hidden and that don't wish to contribute to the community. If I wanted to do that, I'd just post them on eBay.

Again, not mad at anyone here. I'm just saying how the chipping world would be if I were king. Which I'm not.

Carry on hating me though if you wish. I'm ok with that.

I mean the following as a friend to all, and with malice towards none:

Uhhhh, Rainman, I know you're new here and what not, but dial it down a bit. I believe the "flipper" that baginga was referring to is Dolomite, and he was not a flipper for profit, per se, he was known for buying grail sets then selling them off shortly thereafter when another "grail set" showed up. Rather than call him a flipper, I'd just call him fickle. In the best possible way and with all due respect. He's like the grand poobah of chip set collecting--odds are if the set is out there, he owned it (at least for 15 minutes). And he probably lost money on most of his sales.

This is a small community and there is a LOT of past history about which you are totally ignorant. Sit back, have a pint, and cool your jets.

 

[monkeydog]

You're missing the entire point. It's not about profiting from chips. It's about transparency. I have no problem profiting from chips. But I'm going to be forthright about it (as evidenced by that post). There isn't exactly a price guide, like Beckett, for these chips. Very rarely do we as a community get an opportunity to know what the market price is for a lot of these nicer sets. This information is very valuable to the community, and is beneficial for ALL of us to know about.

When I talk about exploiting the community, I'm talking about people who come in here solely to buy chips and flip them for a profit, who don't participate in the community. There are people here that sell chips below market value because they want to 'pay it forward' so-to-speak. But sometimes, they just get exploited when someone sells a set for $80 because that's what they paid 5 years ago, and the sale goes to the first PM, only to get bought up by someone that doesn't even participate here at all. Then, two days later, those chips are sitting on eBay at $300. If you don't think that's worth protecting against, then we have different viewpoints.

@BGinGA posted earlier about another chipper who just logged into this thread (almost certainly to post a bid on these as he replied "I don't know what you're talking about") that is well known as a chip flipper. He signed up here in 2014 but has all of 3 posts. You guys can sell to whomever you want, however you want, but this is what I'm talking about when I say that my preference would be to protect against exploitation.

I'm not interested in selling chips to secret bidders that want to keep their intentions hidden and that don't wish to contribute to the community. If I wanted to do that, I'd just post them on eBay.

Again, not mad at anyone here. I'm just saying how the chipping world would be if I were king. Which I'm not.

Carry on hating me though if you wish. I'm ok with that.

If post count actually meant something, than in this case 3>429...especially when most of the 429 posts are childish, offensive or pointless bragging.

Just sayin'.

 

[jbutler]

I think you are definitely seeing things that aren't there. If you are referring to Dolomite, he was not the buyer. He was more of my chip mentor. But he was a notorious flipper on CT, though seldomly for a profit. Used to be, if you ever bought a set, at one point Dolo probably owned them. Like I said though, he's in retirement.

Please excuse me while I clean my screen after it sinking in that this guy was thinking that Dolo was metabolically capable of selling chips for more than he paid. @dolomite128 flipped all the sickest sets of all time. If Jay Leno collected chips instead of cars, he would worship Dolo.

 

[gopherblue]

+1

Butler...it's cheating if you use pics of your mother as your avatar.

 

[BGinGA]

dolo'd ... LOL

Haven't heard that used in awhile, but it was epic to watch. You always knew it was coming, no matter what he said..... it was like a secondary disease to the chip sickness.

 

[BGinGA]

the "flipper" that baginga was referring to

Again, not me. I now believe Scott brought it up in an attempt to drum up bids-ness (see what i did there?)..

 

[RainmanTrail]

If post count actually meant something, than in this case 3>429...especially when most of the 429 posts are childish, offensive or pointless bragging.

Just sayin'.

It's not a very challenging task to block my posts...

 

[David O]

Ok, I am not a chip flipper but will sell my 2nd edition trops for .......

“One million dollars…..baawaahahahahah!”

David

 

[RainmanTrail]

I mean the following as a friend to all, and with malice towards none:

Uhhhh, Rainman, I know you're new here and what not, but dial it down a bit. I believe the "flipper" that baginga was referring to is Dolomite, and he was not a flipper for profit, per se, he was known for buying grail sets then selling them off shortly thereafter when another "grail set" showed up. Rather than call him a flipper, I'd just call him fickle. In the best possible way and with all due respect. He's like the grand poobah of chip set collecting--odds are if the set is out there, he owned it (at least for 15 minutes). And he probably lost money on most of his sales.

This is a small community and there is a LOT of past history about which you are totally ignorant. Sit back, have a pint, and cool your jets.

I have much to learn. I think I was reading into his post way too much here...

 

[k9dr]

The cat community can blow me.

Careful, sharp teeth and rough tongue

 

[jbutler]

One of my biggest cases of non-buyer's remorse is the Gardena Club hotstamped set Dolo put together back in the day. Breakdown was awful (for my games), but I still wish I had picked it up. Just too sick.

Unfortunately the vast majority of the pics were lost in the great CT Pr0n Holocaust, but I do have one.