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Automatic card shuffler (2 Viewers)

I emailed them inquiring about how to order one and asking what the price is. They replied back asking what casino I work for or wanting to know the name of my business or something. I went back and forth with them for a few emails, and they wouldn’t give me info on how to buy it until I told them what casino I’m with. I got frustrated and said “nevermind. I’ll buy a shufflemaster”. I got really annoyed with their customer relations.
 
Why not just say that your interested in one for a private sale? Are these regulated so they can be sold to registered businesses only? I would think they would be happy to sell one to you as long as you had the money to pay them.
 
allforcharity said:
Why not just say that your interested in one for a private sale?
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I did.

I’m not sure what their rules are for sales, but they didn’t want to cooperate and after a few emails of me trying to pull teeth, I got frustrated. There was also a little bit of a language barrier too.

I’m pretty sure they sell to the home market though because I recall seeing these around on image posts in home games. It’s probly the next best thing to a deckmate IMO. I watched some YouTube videos on it and it seemed solid. But then again, there’s no way to tell how reliable it is from YouTube videos. They don’t have the track record that deckmate does. If you can find out the msrp, let us know.
 
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alpine0000 said:
I did.
I’m pretty sure they sell to the home market though because I recall seeing these around on image posts in home games. It’s probly the next best thing to a deckmate IMO. I watched some YouTube videos on it and it seemed solid. But then again, there’s no way to tell how reliable it is from YouTube videos. They don’t have the track record that deckmate does. If you can find out the msrp, let us know.
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I just found their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/shufflekingshufflers/
Someone was quoted AUS$8580 in early October. As today's exchange rate, that's about US$6750 excluding shipping. Head office/manufacturing in the Czech Republic?
 
Ok, I know there were some folks looking at Shuffletechs. I am getting ready to list one if interested pm me. It has only shuffled a deck less than 20 times and I cannot use it so literally brand new.


David
 
Looks like the price has come down. When I spoke to them in the summer of 2014 they wanted 12k Euros if I remember correctly.
 
T_Chan said:
Looks like the price has come down. When I spoke to them in the summer of 2014 they wanted 12k Euros if I remember correctly.
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For that price, I’d rather have a used deckmate. At least their track record is proven.
 
Not sure when it was released, or released to the public, but they emailed me in the summer of 2014 asking if I wanted to buy any. It was the Shuffle King II model, looks like the same model that's in the brochure they sent me.
 
T_Chan said:
Not sure when it was released, or released to the public, but they emailed me in the summer of 2014 asking if I wanted to buy any. It was the Shuffle King II model, looks like the same model that's in the brochure they sent me.
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Weird. I came across a fair amount of internet advertising stating that this was some new model for 2016. Probably some BS spin used to enter or test new markets. They probably concentrate on European- and maybe Asian-based customers.
 
Coyote said:
Has anybody used one of these?
I 'm curious if the 5X price in relation to the crappy ones ($100 vs $20) translates into any better reliability.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32978775460.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.cad83c00jIxwS0&mp=1
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  • Made out of plastic
  • Shown with paper "Bee" cards
  • Shown with dice chips
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alpine0000 said:
I have about 15 different set-ups (sets of cards), and I've run all of them through the shuffler 10x each to make sure that this thing likes all different brands of cards without any issues (since they're not all the exact same size... For example, Modiano's are about 1/16th of an inch wider than KEM's, and different brands radius their corners at different sizes). I tested KEM (Alpha, Arrow, and Circleback's that came from an actual casino), Modiano, and Copag. We use mostly KEM Circleback and Alpha's though, and occasionally something different (shown below).

So far, it's been flawless. Not a single jam or error. I've only tested bridge-sized cards. I may try to put a deck of poker-sized cards in here, but the manufacturer says this thing only does bridge-sized, so I wouldn't expect it to work (the DeckMate 2 can do both sizes, though).

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Sorry, I know its an old thread, but still. DeckMate1 can also shuffle poker sized cards. The only difference is the two metal mounting brackets that are fitted inside the shuffler card rack. They can be easily detached or fitted back, you just need to take the side covers off and unscrew.

So if your unit has bridge size brackets installed inside, then congrats, it can potentially be used for both card sizes.
 
FS21 said:
I found this tidbit interesting... Card shufflers might have been created to keep bad players in the game, consequently increasing the rake.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/...ter-deckmate-boon-bad-holdem-players-1287956/
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Fake news. The Deckmate 1 does not have any type of camera or card reading device inside. The cards are simply given a random place in the deck by a RNG and then inserted into that position. Connected cards “clumped” together within the deck before shuffling means nothing because each card is given a new spot between 1 and 52. The first and second card to be shuffled may be placed next to each other or at completely opposite sides of the deck. Anyone who thinks the Deckmate 1 is rigged for more connected boards doesn’t understand how the machine works. Deckmate 2 on the other hand is a different animal. Not sure I trust a shuffler with a camera inside that can sort cards back into new deck order!
 
Buge said:
... Deckmate 2 on the other hand is a different animal. Not sure I trust a shuffler with a camera inside that can sort cards back into new deck order!
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Agreed. It seems, if you can program it to sort back to the original order, you can program it to set the deck in any order.
 
Entities, such as the Nevada Gaming Commission, look very closely at electronic devices used for gambling. I would find it extremely unlikely that they would allow such a device to unfairly "rig" a deck.

I would be willing to bet that the guy that wrote that article/post is also one of those people that think online poker is also rigged.
 
Poker Zombie said:
Entities, such as the Nevada Gaming Commission, look very closely at electronic devices used for gambling. I would find it extremely unlikely that they would allow such a device to unfairly "rig" a deck.

I would be willing to bet that the guy that wrote that article/post is also one of those people that think online poker is also rigged.
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I'd be more concerned about a DM2 in a private high stakes game than a casino. The risk to reputation/ruin is too great for a licensed reputable card room to try it.
 
I have and have used a Shuffletech ST-1000 mounted in my table for a year or so.

I have mixed views on it. The game moves substantially faster but I am constantly (3-4 times a night tbh) plugging and unplugging the machine to initiate the automatic reset or clearning jams. It has only damaged one card after I would say 500 - 750 hours of use though.

It's certainly not a robust feat of engineering but it has served it's purpose well. I am planning to retire it when I get a new table and just engage a dealer to work for tips. I feel the speed gains are huge vs your average player but I know from experience that good dealers can do it quicker and quieter.
 
OzzieJim said:
I have and have used a Shuffletech ST-1000 mounted in my table for a year or so.

I have mixed views on it. The game moves substantially faster but I am constantly (3-4 times a night tbh) plugging and unplugging the machine to initiate the automatic reset or clearning jams. It has only damaged one card after I would say 500 - 750 hours of use though.

It's certainly not a robust feat of engineering but it has served it's purpose well. I am planning to retire it when I get a new table and just engage a dealer to work for tips. I feel the speed gains are huge vs your average player but I know from experience that good dealers can do it quicker and quieter.
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...and you would be surprised at how quickly the "average player" can learn to deal with the speed and efficacy of a (mediocre) dealer.
 
OzzieJim said:
I have and have used a Shuffletech ST-1000 mounted in my table for a year or so.

I have mixed views on it. The game moves substantially faster but I am constantly (3-4 times a night tbh) plugging and unplugging the machine to initiate the automatic reset or clearning jams. It has only damaged one card after I would say 500 - 750 hours of use though.

It's certainly not a robust feat of engineering but it has served it's purpose well. I am planning to retire it when I get a new table and just engage a dealer to work for tips. I feel the speed gains are huge vs your average player but I know from experience that good dealers can do it quicker and quieter.
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Do you clean the rollers? The center roller (especially) needs to be cleaned regularly. Blow it out occasionally, as well. Make sure it’s not over tightened in the bracket…just a tiny amount of over compression can tweak it enough to cause malfunctions.

I may be wrong, but this is what I’ve observed…
 
OzzieJim said:
I have and have used a Shuffletech ST-1000 mounted in my table for a year or so.

I have mixed views on it. The game moves substantially faster but I am constantly (3-4 times a night tbh) plugging and unplugging the machine to initiate the automatic reset or clearning jams. It has only damaged one card after I would say 500 - 750 hours of use though.

It's certainly not a robust feat of engineering but it has served it's purpose well. I am planning to retire it when I get a new table and just engage a dealer to work for tips. I feel the speed gains are huge vs your average player but I know from experience that good dealers can do it quicker and quieter.
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I have the shuffletech and a dealer, I'm not sure I would deal for just tips if I had to shuffle all night.

There are actually a few variables, felt quality, padding of the table, cleanliness of the felt - if its too gummed up you can't shuffle on it, it needs to be some form of clean. I wouldn't hand shuffle with poker sized cards, I really like to have 2 decks used every other hand, I wouldn't do this if I was hand shuffling. The stakes of the game, if its not 5/5 + I'm not likely to deal w/ hand shuffle.

You'll have a few jams per night, but if you're a dedicated dealer thats better than hand shuffling all night.
 

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