Cash Game Cash Game Initial Buy-Ins and Top Offs - What are People Doing? (2 Viewers)

I run my game (25c/50c) with a 200BB initial cap, and rebuys to 200BB or half the big stack. I initially did match the stack and I will never do that again, it nearly broke the game and I had to do some serious rebuilding. I am on the fence about raising the stakes because initial raises are getting progressively larger, but everybody seems to bring about 600 BB to play with which is 3 buy ins, so I think we might be in a good spot. There is another larger game in town (1/2) that gets out of hand really fast because of 1-2 players, and it sounds like everybody else complains about them ruining the fun.

Right. That’s not my thing. But fortunately it’s not how my game plays. So like I said, if one guy gets down to $75 and wants to top off another $100 (in a .25/.50 game) sure, go for it. If it becomes a problem at some point, I’d stop it. But that’s not where we’re at.
Now that my game has matured this is where we are at. A few players want to buy in for $120-150 instead of the $100 and it's no problem, rebuys are fine too, nobody has gone wild. If it gets out of hand, I'll be sure to address it asap after the debacle I had while building a new game.
 
IDEA:

Players can buy back at any time in for the total amount each has put in.

1/2 game. I buy in for the $300 max initial amount.

If I bust, I can rebuy for $300.

If I bust again, now it’s $600.

Again? $1,200.

And so on.

Add-ons/top-offs would be treated as part of each player’s running tally.

In other words, I always have the chance to make my losses back.

The amount might be less than the big stack, or more, depending on how one’s losses got distributed.

PROBLEM: As a host, I don’t really want to keep track of that for a full table of players.

And I also don’t really like to remind players how much they are stuck…
 
IDEA:

Players can buy back at any time in for the total amount each has put in.

1/2 game. I buy in for the $300 max initial amount.

If I bust, I can rebuy for $300.

If I bust again, now it’s $600.

Again? $1,200.

And so on.

Add-ons/top-offs would be treated as part of each player’s running tally.

In other words, I always have the chance to make my losses back.

The amount might be less than the big stack, or more, depending on how one’s losses got distributed.

PROBLEM: As a host, I don’t really want to keep track of that for a full table of players.

And I also don’t really like to remind players how much they are stuck…
Your last sentence makes this a nonstarter for me. Best way to shame or scare people away.
 
To keep it sane reduce the craziness we changed it to $100 for your first and second buy in. Anything after that was $200 max for the rest of the night. It's worked out well so far with no one complaining that they couldn't match a stack since 800bb is pretty deep lol.

1/2 game. I buy in for the $300 max initial amount.

If I bust, I can rebuy for $300.

If I bust again, now it’s $600.

Again? $1,200.

And so on.

Add-ons/top-offs would be treated as part of each player’s running tally.

In other words, I always have the chance to make my losses back.

The amount might be less than the big stack, or more, depending on how one’s losses got distributed.

PROBLEM: As a host, I don’t really want to keep track of that for a full table of players.

I admit I don't hate this idea, but to solve the problem @Taghkanic points out as a host, the simpler version from @200 Motels above seems better.

This is an escalator I feel a little better about, it's more about giving players an option to buy in enough to double up and get even than about making sure everyone covers everyone. This approach incentivizes a 3rd buy in that may seem hopeless if they are limited to the original stack.

So I am thinking maybe this rule. If a player gets felted and has lost at least twice the cap over the evening, that player has the option to double the table cap. All player then may add on accordingly. Once any player uses this option, it is no longer available for the remainder of the session. One thing I would like about this rule is it kind of back-door encourages players to bring 3-4 buy ins for a session.
 
100BB or 200BB start will make little difference if you are playing match the stack- except to new players. If $25 is 100BB it feels like cheap game that most people can sit down at without too much stress. It just takes one all in for people to be allowed to buy in at $50 and one more for $100. After 6 all ins the stacks could be >$1600
 
Again, we admit the game has decidedly evolved into a soft aggressive game on all streets with a typical pre flop raise around $1+.

We talked last night (3 this morning) of increasing the buy-in some and only minimally, at most expanding the top off amount.

I think the game is at a mini turning point where we really want to find the most current sweet spot between the casual, yet regular, players and the slightly more serious, also regular, players.

I am of the persuasion that the player initiating this discussion most emphatically (we’ve been planning on assessing) is thinking more about they’re preferences and style and not for what’s in the best interest of the larger game which, as the host, is my responsibility.
How did it all turn out? I would say allow up to 200bbs or make the buy in 25, minimum buy in 15, with .25/.25 blinds
 
How did it all turn out? I would say allow up to 200bbs or make the buy in 25, minimum buy in 15, with .25/.25 blinds
Man, gotta be weeks ago now at least but after deciding to lean heavily in favor of increasing the game to .25/.50 I 11th houred and pulled back. No complaints and had fun putting together the announcement. (I’ll try to find it and post it).

We’re at .25/.25 no straddle and an initial of $25-40 with all the way up to the big stack from after the first hand until the room closes for the night. 10 players last night (last hand at 0200 and room cleared at 0345) and we had right around $1000 in the drawer.

Make changes slowly hosts and after careful consideration.

Ken (merkong) 500+ Sessions Spread
Owner/Operator/Founder:
*The Godfather Club MN (The Venue)
*The Executive Game, (The Current Game)
*Frogtown Card Club, St. Paul (Retired Venue)
*The Poker Family (Our Philosophy)
 
How did it all turn out? I would say allow up to 200bbs or make the buy in 25, minimum buy in 15, with .25/.25 blinds
Here’s the fun I had piecing together my, for the good of my game, slight decision reversal.

Everything is run by “Committees” at The Godfather Club. I just happen to chair them, co-chair them, and am the only member. Provides me with faux insulation and I’m not the lightning rod.

The Breaking News:

Breaking News
Just in from The Godfather Club:

Some time ago, Executive Game leadership and Godfather Club management began discussing changes involving the Friday night game including the retirement of the Rock Straddle, altering of the blind structure, and written guidance on pre-session buy-ins and add-ons. After much deliberation, a final proposal had reached club ownership and was scheduled for signature into policy.

A great deal of deliberation had reportedly taken place. Additionally, degrees of input and feedback had been received and taken into consideration from a small but vocal group of players in emphatic support of the retirement of the Rock Straddle and an increase in the blind structure to .25/.50.

The opinion coming out of the bilateral and unified Godfather Club and Executive Game Special Committee, tasked with weighing in on the matter, recommended swift ratification of language in support of these changes.

During a late night emergency meeting between the owner and founder of The Godfather Club and his first Lieutenant at an undisclosed location, the decision to ratify this language was discussed.

Only hours after this rendezvous and still under cover of darkness, another meeting reportedly took place in the club itself. The only confirmed or verified member being Godfather Club owner.

During a brunch briefing with the only other stakeholder in Club operations at his side, the games leader announced the scrapping of the plan to move forward with the changes that had relatively swiftly moved through committee and received the full endorsement of a small but invested group of the games regulars.

In confident fashion the games owner, manager, and spokesperson took the podium in the East Parlor and delivered a brief announcement.

“Ladies and gentleman, thank you for being here this morning. Everyone here knows what has been discussed and considered for the Executive Game. I’ve put much thought into this and I’ve decided against the somewhat well-received changes, that I proposed mind you, to the Executive Game played on Friday nights here at the Godfather Club. I’ve grown this chapter of my hosting career meticulously and methodically. No change has been made without intensive thought and consideration. I’ve gone to these lengths to protect the game itself and no players in particular, but all players and most importantly the game I’ve worked so hard to build and deliver. So at this time the changes that have been sent to my office for signature will not be put into place. More information to follow. Thank you for your time. I’ve slept very little and need some coffee. Thank you.”

The games manager left the East Parlor with his backer and disappeared into another area of the home.

Unnamed insiders cite managements decision to back off on proposed changes being tied to fundamental roots including an “open door policy for players to leave the game if it’s not big enough” and that games historically at the now retired Frogtown Card Club and at The Godfather Club boast “never having lost a player because the game had gotten too big.”

Those close to the spokesperson report a long night of contemplation and that the decision involved damage control for not implementing the much anticipated changes being “a hell of a lot more enjoyable than having to unravel an ill-conceived plan that wasn’t consistent to my over 20 years of managing a game.”

Anticipating disappointment and possible push back from players, the games leadership is said to be “sympathetic to their thoughts on the matter but the decision has been made” and that he expects players “loyalty to leadership and discretion in making their feelings known” to be driving forces to any potential shifts in how the game is tabled and operates week to week.

In an early week reference to an upcoming decision the manager hinted to his ongoing mixed feelings.

“If anyone, anyone questions my commitment to this game they need to take the blinders off. The amount of time, blood - yes blood, and sweat, not to mention the incalculable resources of many sorts that I’ve poured into this game is staggering. I welcome my partners in this thing we call poker into the room week in and week out. Players, on both sides of any decision that comes from the top, need to take that into consideration before they spend time asking about the forces that drive how the game is managed.”

Hinting toward how questions about the decision will be handled the manager simply stated; “Like all inquires historically in-session time is for poker. All discussion related to how the game is managed and how and why decisions are made on a more global level will require a sit down. I’m always happy to hear what the players are thinking.”

When asked about any untoward effects the decision might have on players he added “I can’t control who ultimately accepts a seat at my game. What I can control is making the game accessible to as many players as possible. No players, no game. Get it? And of course who actually gets invited. I’ve intentionally and unintentionally driven players out of my games and I don’t expect that to ever change.”

As of Sunday, July 21st at 2100 the official statement from The Godfather Club on the matter is as follows:

“As of Session 119 set for Friday, July 26th and moving forward, the Executive Game will operate as a .25/.25 ring game with no straddle as the Rock is on a hiatus of an undetermined length. Minimum buy-ins pre-session will remain at $25 and maximum pre-session buy-ins at $40. Players can freshen their stacks in any amount that does not put them in a position of being the largest stack. While these changes will disappoint some, they will not affect the vast majority of the player pool who had not been apprised that any structure decisions were being considered. The game is insistent that all inquires on these, and any other matters, be held directly with the game manager and outside of sessions. The decision exemplifies the philosophy leadership holds that changes of all types need to be considered only after intensive thought and input but ultimately lie within the jurisdiction of ownership.”

There is no other information available at this time.

Ken Merwin is the owner/operator/founder of The Godfather Club, Eagan, host and manager of The Executive Game, and founder of The Frogtown Card Club, St. Paul (retired). He has hosted and managed over 500 home games in the lifespan of game play at the two venues.
 
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Here’s the fun I had piecing together my, for the good of my game, slight decision reversal.

Everything is run by “Committees” at The Godfather Club. I just happen to chair them, co-chair them, and am the only member. Provides me with faux insulation and I’m not the lightning rod.

The Breaking News:

Breaking News
Just in from The Godfather Club:

Some time ago, Executive Game leadership and Godfather Club management began discussing changes involving the Friday night game including the retirement of the Rock Straddle, altering of the blind structure, and written guidance on pre-session buy-ins and add-ons. After much deliberation, a final proposal had reached club ownership and was scheduled for signature into policy.

A great deal of deliberation had reportedly taken place. Additionally, degrees of input and feedback had been received and taken into consideration from a small but vocal group of players in emphatic support of the retirement of the Rock Straddle and an increase in the blind structure to .25/.50.

The opinion coming out of the bilateral and unified Godfather Club and Executive Game Special Committee, tasked with weighing in on the matter, recommended swift ratification of language in support of these changes.

During a late night emergency meeting between the owner and founder of The Godfather Club and his first Lieutenant at an undisclosed location, the decision to ratify this language was discussed.

Only hours after this rendezvous and still under cover of darkness, another meeting reportedly took place in the club itself. The only confirmed or verified member being Godfather Club owner.

During a brunch briefing with the only other stakeholder in Club operations at his side, the games leader announced the scrapping of the plan to move forward with the changes that had relatively swiftly moved through committee and received the full endorsement of a small but invested group of the games regulars.

In confident fashion the games owner, manager, and spokesperson took the podium in the East Parlor and delivered a brief announcement.

“Ladies and gentleman, thank you for being here this morning. Everyone here knows what has been discussed and considered for the Executive Game. I’ve put much thought into this and I’ve decided against the somewhat well-received changes, that I proposed mind you, to the Executive Game played on Friday nights here at the Godfather Club. I’ve grown this chapter of my hosting career meticulously and methodically. No change has been made without intensive thought and consideration. I’ve gone to these lengths to protect the game itself and no players in particular, but all players and most importantly the game I’ve worked so hard to build and deliver. So at this time the changes that have been sent to my office for signature will not be put into place. More information to follow. Thank you for your time. I’ve slept very little and need some coffee. Thank you.”

The games manager left the East Parlor with his backer and disappeared into another area of the home.

Unnamed insiders cite managements decision to back off on proposed changes being tied to fundamental roots including an “open door policy for players to leave the game if it’s not big enough” and that games historically at the now retired Frogtown Card Club and at The Godfather Club boast “never having lost a player because the game had gotten too big.”

Those close to the spokesperson report a long night of contemplation and that the decision involved damage control for not implementing the much anticipated changes being “a hell of a lot more enjoyable than having to unravel an ill-conceived plan that wasn’t consistent to my over 20 years of managing a game.”

Anticipating disappointment and possible push back from players, the games leadership is said to be “sympathetic to their thoughts on the matter but the decision has been made” and that he expects players “loyalty to leadership and discretion in making their feelings known” to be driving forces to any potential shifts in how the game is tabled and operates week to week.

In an early week reference to an upcoming decision the manager hinted to his ongoing mixed feelings.

“If anyone, anyone questions my commitment to this game they need to take the blinders off. The amount of time, blood - yes blood, and sweat, not to mention the incalculable resources of many sorts that I’ve poured into this game is staggering. I welcome my partners in this thing we call poker into the room week in and week out. Players, on both sides of any decision that comes from the top, need to take that into consideration before they spend time asking about the forces that drive how the game is managed.”

Hinting toward how questions about the decision will be handled the manager simply stated; “Like all inquires historically in-session time is for poker. All discussion related to how the game is managed and how and why decisions are made on a more global level will require a sit down. I’m always happy to hear what the players are thinking.”

When asked about any untoward effects the decision might have on players he added “I can’t control who ultimately accepts a seat at my game. What I can control is making the game accessible to as many players as possible. No players, no game. Get it? And of course who actually gets invited. I’ve intentionally and unintentionally driven players out of my games and I don’t expect that to ever change.”

As of Sunday, July 21st at 2100 the official statement from The Godfather Club on the matter is as follows:

“As of Session 119 set for Friday, July 26th and moving forward, the Executive Game will operate as a .25/.25 ring game with no straddle as the Rock is on a hiatus of an undetermined length. Minimum buy-ins pre-session will remain at $25 and maximum pre-session buy-ins at $40. Players can freshen their stacks in any amount that does not put them in a position of being the largest stack. While these changes will disappoint some, they will not affect the vast majority of the player pool who had not been apprised that any structure decisions were being considered. The game is insistent that all inquires on these, and any other matters, be held directly with the game manager and outside of sessions. The decision exemplifies the philosophy leadership holds that changes of all types need to be considered only after intensive thought and input but ultimately lie within the jurisdiction of ownership.”

There is no other information available at this time.

Ken Merwin is the owner/operator/founder of The Godfather Club, Eagan, host and manager of The Executive Game, and founder of The Frogtown Card Club, St. Paul (retired). He has hosted and managed 500 home games in the lifespan of game play at the two venues.
I triple majored in Philosophy, Psychology, and Creative Writing in college before scrapping all that and becoming a Public Health Nurse. Ironically, it all still comes in handy.
 
I host a monthly .25/.50 dealers choice cash game. The max buy in is $100's. Everyone but one player buys in for $100. The other guy buys in for $70.

Rebuys and Add on's are $100 max, or half the deep stack. Most players only rebuy for $100 max.
 
I triple majored in Philosophy, Psychology, and Creative Writing in college before scrapping all that and becoming a Public Health Nurse. Ironically, it all still comes in handy.
Creative writing major here, too. Very impressed and bravo! I read the whole thing through and it was enjoyable and not a task at all.

What was the post-announcement feedback?
 
Here’s the fun I had piecing together my, for the good of my game, slight decision reversal.

Everything is run by “Committees” at The Godfather Club. I just happen to chair them, co-chair them, and am the only member. Provides me with faux insulation and I’m not the lightning rod.

The Breaking News:

Breaking News
Just in from The Godfather Club:

Some time ago, Executive Game leadership and Godfather Club management began discussing changes involving the Friday night game including the retirement of the Rock Straddle, altering of the blind structure, and written guidance on pre-session buy-ins and add-ons. After much deliberation, a final proposal had reached club ownership and was scheduled for signature into policy.

A great deal of deliberation had reportedly taken place. Additionally, degrees of input and feedback had been received and taken into consideration from a small but vocal group of players in emphatic support of the retirement of the Rock Straddle and an increase in the blind structure to .25/.50.

The opinion coming out of the bilateral and unified Godfather Club and Executive Game Special Committee, tasked with weighing in on the matter, recommended swift ratification of language in support of these changes.

During a late night emergency meeting between the owner and founder of The Godfather Club and his first Lieutenant at an undisclosed location, the decision to ratify this language was discussed.

Only hours after this rendezvous and still under cover of darkness, another meeting reportedly took place in the club itself. The only confirmed or verified member being Godfather Club owner.

During a brunch briefing with the only other stakeholder in Club operations at his side, the games leader announced the scrapping of the plan to move forward with the changes that had relatively swiftly moved through committee and received the full endorsement of a small but invested group of the games regulars.

In confident fashion the games owner, manager, and spokesperson took the podium in the East Parlor and delivered a brief announcement.

“Ladies and gentleman, thank you for being here this morning. Everyone here knows what has been discussed and considered for the Executive Game. I’ve put much thought into this and I’ve decided against the somewhat well-received changes, that I proposed mind you, to the Executive Game played on Friday nights here at the Godfather Club. I’ve grown this chapter of my hosting career meticulously and methodically. No change has been made without intensive thought and consideration. I’ve gone to these lengths to protect the game itself and no players in particular, but all players and most importantly the game I’ve worked so hard to build and deliver. So at this time the changes that have been sent to my office for signature will not be put into place. More information to follow. Thank you for your time. I’ve slept very little and need some coffee. Thank you.”

The games manager left the East Parlor with his backer and disappeared into another area of the home.

Unnamed insiders cite managements decision to back off on proposed changes being tied to fundamental roots including an “open door policy for players to leave the game if it’s not big enough” and that games historically at the now retired Frogtown Card Club and at The Godfather Club boast “never having lost a player because the game had gotten too big.”

Those close to the spokesperson report a long night of contemplation and that the decision involved damage control for not implementing the much anticipated changes being “a hell of a lot more enjoyable than having to unravel an ill-conceived plan that wasn’t consistent to my over 20 years of managing a game.”

Anticipating disappointment and possible push back from players, the games leadership is said to be “sympathetic to their thoughts on the matter but the decision has been made” and that he expects players “loyalty to leadership and discretion in making their feelings known” to be driving forces to any potential shifts in how the game is tabled and operates week to week.

In an early week reference to an upcoming decision the manager hinted to his ongoing mixed feelings.

“If anyone, anyone questions my commitment to this game they need to take the blinders off. The amount of time, blood - yes blood, and sweat, not to mention the incalculable resources of many sorts that I’ve poured into this game is staggering. I welcome my partners in this thing we call poker into the room week in and week out. Players, on both sides of any decision that comes from the top, need to take that into consideration before they spend time asking about the forces that drive how the game is managed.”

Hinting toward how questions about the decision will be handled the manager simply stated; “Like all inquires historically in-session time is for poker. All discussion related to how the game is managed and how and why decisions are made on a more global level will require a sit down. I’m always happy to hear what the players are thinking.”

When asked about any untoward effects the decision might have on players he added “I can’t control who ultimately accepts a seat at my game. What I can control is making the game accessible to as many players as possible. No players, no game. Get it? And of course who actually gets invited. I’ve intentionally and unintentionally driven players out of my games and I don’t expect that to ever change.”

As of Sunday, July 21st at 2100 the official statement from The Godfather Club on the matter is as follows:

“As of Session 119 set for Friday, July 26th and moving forward, the Executive Game will operate as a .25/.25 ring game with no straddle as the Rock is on a hiatus of an undetermined length. Minimum buy-ins pre-session will remain at $25 and maximum pre-session buy-ins at $40. Players can freshen their stacks in any amount that does not put them in a position of being the largest stack. While these changes will disappoint some, they will not affect the vast majority of the player pool who had not been apprised that any structure decisions were being considered. The game is insistent that all inquires on these, and any other matters, be held directly with the game manager and outside of sessions. The decision exemplifies the philosophy leadership holds that changes of all types need to be considered only after intensive thought and input but ultimately lie within the jurisdiction of ownership.”

There is no other information available at this time.

Ken Merwin is the owner/operator/founder of The Godfather Club, Eagan, host and manager of The Executive Game, and founder of The Frogtown Card Club, St. Paul (retired). He has hosted and managed over 500 home games in the lifespan of game play at the two venues.
I can tell you care a lot and I would feel honored and reassured having you run a club! Awesome man
 
Creative writing major here, too. Very impressed and bravo! I read the whole thing through and it was enjoyable and not a task at all.

What was the post-announcement feedback?
I appreciate the feedback. I like to make a big production out of everything.

Even though I’ve only had this crew together for about two years, I make no misassertions about who they’re dealing with; a fun and dedicated host who’s got they’re back. As long as they’ve got mine.

The players that were driving hard to the net about scrapping the straddle and taking the blinds and buyins up thought I might have been hasty in not doing so. Those who rallied to leave it as was said they knew I’d do the right thing and that I had to go through “my process.” That said, everyone knows how things operate at TGC and how they operated in my previous life at FCC. They know I know what I’m doing. With 1K consistently in the drawer the game is right where it needs to be; big but well accessible to all.

Thanks again and I’m glad you enjoyed the read. It took me an entire morning and pot of coffee to put it together but it had to be exactly how it was so that the news came out and I got to have a little fun with it.

Hosting needs to be fun for the host.
 
I appreciate the feedback. I like to make a big production out of everything.

Even though I’ve only had this crew together for about two years, I make no misassertions about who they’re dealing with; a fun and dedicated host who’s got they’re back. As long as they’ve got mine.

The players that were driving hard to the net about scrapping the straddle and taking the blinds and buyins up thought I might have been hasty in not doing so. Those who rallied to leave it as was said they knew I’d do the right thing and that I had to go through “my process.” That said, everyone knows how things operate at TGC and how they operated in my previous life at FCC. They know I know what I’m doing. With 1K consistently in the drawer the game is right where it needs to be; big but well accessible to all.

Thanks again and I’m glad you enjoyed the read. It took me an entire morning and pot of coffee to put it together but it had to be exactly how it was so that the news came out and I got to have a little fun with it.

Hosting needs to be fun for the host.
Agreed, I do the same with my writeups / meetings for a recovery workshop I do weekly with my crew, I think that’s why it resonated so much with me. Thanks again for the effort and enjoyable read!
 
100 BB buyin with matching the half the biggest stack played very much different from 200 BB buyin with matching to the biggest stack.
Why do you think this is? My game has always done 100bb start and match the stack. I always assumed that since after the first all in were at 200bb anyway that they would basically be the same game just delayed by a few minutes. The only reason we cap initial buys at 100bb is to keep it seemingly friendlier for those who don’t want to play huge
 
I'm in two games.

1) I host a 0.05/0.10 weekly casual NLH game where the goal is to have a fun night of cards. Initial buy in is $10 and most will buy another 2-3 times through the night. I've limited this to at most half the largest stack because sometimes there is sentiment that it becomes a money game. Since this is a weekly game that has some new players and is designed for entertainment, it made sense to somewhat protect players and let them take money home (to bring back again next week:p).
So far everyone is happy and only really lost 1 player (a more seasoned player who is accustomed to playing much larger stakes).
Looking to re-evaluate this at the 1 year mark, maybe add a 0.25/0.25 game once a month to play some more realistic poker.

2) I play in a once a month-or-two dealers' choice with 0.50/1. Initial buy-in is $50 and re-buys are usually $100 or more. The players are very splashy with straddles for action and so this game gets quite big for the stake. There are consistent re-buys and all-ins through the night. In this game, most people are down to get re-buy another $100. If someone is down quite a bit, then a $150 or $200 re-buy is usually deemed good by the players. Re-buying a huge stack early is usually the only no-go.

Considerations:
- If you want a casual, fun game for learning - Keep the stake small and avoid match the stack to not make it a "most money in wallet" game.
- If you want a "real" game of poker - Consider upping the stake and let players decide if they want to try and win it all back.
 
- If you want a casual, fun game for learning - Keep the stake small and avoid match the stack to not make it a "most money in wallet" game.
- If you want a "real" game of poker - Consider upping the stake and let players decide if they want to try and win it all back.
*Pretty* much this. While there are two distinct camps, they can coexist to an extent.

Some players will sharpen their skills and decide to dedicate more of their funds for more realistic poker and some will decide that low stakes poker is more their preference.

Casual/Fun and Higher stakes. The two are *not* mutually exclusive.

We play .25/.25 $25-40 initial with up to the big stack. Our game is casual and fun but we also will bank between $700 and $1000 in the drawer.

Really all the host decides which of two styles of game they want to spread; lower or higher stakes.

It remaining casual and fun is on the host; keep players in who like where the game is and is trending and to replace those that find it to be casual and fun but a little spendier with new players.

ABR
Always be recruiting.
 

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