Cash Set breakdown help wanted (1 Viewer)

[Mental Nomad]

By my count, that pot only has a dozen nickels in it!

Betting $0.30 is one quarter and one nickel.... Calling $1.40 is putting up $1.50 in quarters and getting two nickels out of the pot...

The quarter and singles are the "workhorse" chips, not the nickels or the fives... But I like the fives as the "value accumulation" chips. If Rob and a few others can be in for $200, then one or two people can be up well over two hundred... And having thirty barrels of singles and quarters is sometimes frustrating.

 

[jbutler]

I see it the other way around. I've walked with five digit payouts from tournaments but never left a cash table with more than a few thousand in profit. That's a lot of chicken fingers.

Professor Tree, trash talking with no objective support for my claims is one of my few pleasures.

 

[Mr Tree]

Professor Tree, trash talking with no objective support for my claims is one of my few pleasures.

I apologize profusely. Life is hard so no reason to take away a man's happiness.

Plus it jives with one of my phrases I live by, "never let the facts get in the way of a good story."

 

[ChaosRock]

My only concern for your current buyin setup is that I would assume you will have a lot of chip exchanging that could get annoying. With only 0.50 in blind money you could lose most if it in 2 hands.

The 5 chips are kind of worthless chips since most pots aren't going to require them. For example, someone raised 0.30 gets 2 callers so let's say there is 1 in the middle, next bet is 0.60 and there is 1 caller (2.2 in the middle). On the turn you bet 1.4 and player calls (5.00 in the middle). River you bet 3.75 or 4. The 5 dollar chips are really never used unless you get huge multiway action.

Feels that with your buyin amount you will have people changing 5s for 1's and asking for more 0.05 chips constantly.

I was actually gonna go the opposite direction...

I haven't seen many cash games lately that PF raise is only 3BB... Maybe in $5/$10 or $10/$20... And tourneys of course (2.5x)... Now, for lower stakes cash, it's more like 5 or 6x imo... But I know, it's totally dependent on the group of players... Our 25¢/50¢ standard raise is to $3 and 50¢/$1 is to $5... For small stakes, more often than not I see the third denom being a bit more of the workhorse...

I think ultimately though, CR's breakdown is a good one... I would personally get fewer 25¢s and more $1s for his friend's stakes but if the game is played ~3x the breakdown is pretty spot on imo...

 

[Messiah]

By my count, that pot only has a dozen nickels in it!

Betting $0.30 is one quarter and one nickel.... Calling $1.40 is putting up $1.50 in quarters and getting two nickels out of the pot...

The quarter and singles are the "workhorse" chips, not the nickels or the fives... But I like the fives as the "value accumulation" chips. If Rob and a few others can be in for $200, then one or two people can be up well over two hundred... And having thirty barrels of singles and quarters is sometimes frustrating.

Without understanding his game it is hard to give really good advice since most games don't have a 0.10 BB and $200 buyin. This is why i asked in my initial post what the raises looked like.

Its my personal preference, but i find it annoying having people make change in the pot constantly. I look at his $20 buyin (0.10 bb) game how I would play a $5-10 NL game at the casino with a $2k buyin. I would not buyin with $50 worth of reds (this just seems slightly too little to me). I would want about $100 in reds, a few hundred in greens and the rest in hundreds. This is essentially his buyin, but with a slight increase in the 0.05 chips and more 1s. 5 dollar chips are essentially a $500 chip in my example which seems less useful in a $2k buyin.

 

[Chicken Rob]

My only concern for your current buyin setup is that I would assume you will have a lot of chip exchanging that could get annoying. With only 0.50 in blind money you could lose most if it in 2 hands.

The 5 chips are kind of worthless chips since most pots aren't going to require them. For example, someone raised 0.30 gets 2 callers so let's say there is 1 in the middle, next bet is 0.60 and there is 1 caller (2.2 in the middle). On the turn you bet 1.4 and player calls (5.00 in the middle). River you bet 3.75 or 4. The 5 dollar chips are really never used unless you get huge multiway action.

Feels that with your buyin amount you will have people changing 5s for 1's and asking for more 0.05 chips constantly.

Someone bets .30, gets 2 callers, now there is 1 in the middle. From the flop on, all bets are in increments of quarters. It's how the game plays.

All of this is moot though, as we may need to go to 1000 chips. I might be going with Game On ceramics after reports of the 9 Dragons chips that just came out.

 

[CO0LHand]

Not that I know of, but he seems busy and backed up (based on rumor from the community), so you never know...

Just not counting on it until he accepts.

It's worth the wait the guy is bulletproof with design and while he might get super busy if you are patient you will get the results you didn't even know you wanted.

 

[Messiah]

Does he have a gallery with his work?

 

[Shaggy]

Does he have a gallery with his work?

Approx 90% of the artwork done for the custom chips here at PCF and over at Chiptalk are done by J5 (Johnny5).

 

[Mr Tree]

Yeah, if there's a set you really like there's a good chance he devised it. I think he had designed something like seven or eight of the sets that went in the HOF this year.

 

[Chicken Rob]

It's worth the wait the guy is bulletproof with design and while he might get super busy if you are patient you will get the results you didn't even know you wanted.

Oh, believe me, I am well familiar with his work. He has a project in initial mock up stage for me for my personal set.