Chip Cheat (4 Viewers)
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I think this is the way for me. I'dont mind waiting or paying for security. I'll design a set from scratch that I will keep forever from CPC.
Will definitely need something in the meanwhile. I really like the Hollywood Casino in Batton Rough LA those are unique colorway.
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Darthhoodie
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Good choice on the CPC route! Makes me happy to know another custom set will be brough into the world! As long as its healthy am I right
ThinkingFold
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If going CPC, don't forget to browse the chip database to get some ideas on what colors/combos you like.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/poker-chip-database/categories/custom-sets.2/chip-search?mfr_brand=1
Darthhoodie
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I would also hire an artist who has experience with chip design, there are many talented people around here for this so ask around. I would also suggest getting a sample set of the different molds and colors. It is surprising how completely different the various molds feel. The colors also look different in your hand, so its best to see for yourself, you don't want any surprises.
As a couple others have noted, there have been some reports of duplicated chips from Tina without the consent of the original customer. Depending on how persistent your offender is, you’re leaving the door open to future issues if security is your biggest concern. CPC and BRpro have a strong history of refusing to produce without express consent from the art owner.
One option would be to cycle through a few sets until your customs are completed. Even if it’s buying what’s available in the classifieds here and reselling after a session or two
One option would be to cycle through a few sets until your customs are completed. Even if it’s buying what’s available in the classifieds here and reselling after a session or two
Bluegrass Poker
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If that’s iceman then stay away.
You can also buy various used fantasy and casino chips and customize those, either by replacing the inlays with custom designs, or milling and hotstamping them. Those options take some time, too.
In theory anything still could be faked, but by creating a degree of difficulty like the above you reduce your risk to close to zero.
You also might want to consider how you think the cheat did it. What denom of chips was introduced? 100s, I would guess?
I ask because realistically there isn’t much upside to sneaking 1s or 5s or even 25s into a 1/2 game. Too many chips to get though.
In theory anything still could be faked, but by creating a degree of difficulty like the above you reduce your risk to close to zero.
You also might want to consider how you think the cheat did it. What denom of chips was introduced? 100s, I would guess?
I ask because realistically there isn’t much upside to sneaking 1s or 5s or even 25s into a 1/2 game. Too many chips to get though.
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Great idea. Only drawback is they're the cash equivalent so mind your game's security and where you store them while not in play.
I like thinking out of the box like that…
To play devil’s advocate, couldn’t that incentivize ratholing / going south? Players could cash out chips snuck off their stacks at your game at the casino. I only think of it since the player pool is apparently untrustworthy.
ekricket
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You need a custom hot stamped set. If you are interested in that route contact me. I’ve got some I’d sell. Definitely unique.
Darthhoodie
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But then you have their cash so nothing gained by rat and nothing lost by hero. ReallyGoodUsernam has a real potential issue, because you basically have 15k sitting around at all times so you better have some tight security.
I suppose. I never even thought of that. On the other hand, if going south is the worst thing that ever happened at a game that was previously cheated out of $1200, that’s almost a win.
jamesjkim
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You may also want to consider having two (or more) separate sets and putting them in play randomly so any regs that want to chip cheat won't be able to or will at least be on their toes.
ekricket
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?? Sure but you’d have their buyin money they didn’t cash from you. If they bought them in from the casino you could always just go cash them back out for face.
You as host have the cash of whoever bought those chips originally. So it’s neutral for you, sure. Apart from the PITA of going back to the casino to replace those chips in your live set.
But: The players in the game are still worse off if someone ratholes, because the money has been removed from the table. The players who lost chips to the ratholer can no longer win them back.
The rat gains because he can guarantee the value of those chips without having to leave the game. (Of course anyone can get up and leave after winning some nice pots, but then it looks like a hit-and-run.)
If someone buys in for $500, goes up, then sneaks $500 off the the table, he can freeroll the game.
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Fastest turnaround on customs I've ever had was 3 months from payment to delivery for an A-Mold order.
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jamesjkim
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In addition, you could consider a fully mixed set with multiple options across your denoms to achieve the same goal. I imagine it would be very challenging for your players to guess what will be in play on a given night.
If you go the custom route, get in contact with @mattross1313 for all aspects of design work.
divinerites
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This is the way for sure. He his my main design provider.
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That is a very good point. They had 2-$100 and 2- $500 chips. Not sure how they introduced them into the game. Maybe they got change or something. I spent time analyzing and worrying just gives me a headache. First time shame on me right. Won't make the same mistake.
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Maybe just switch out 25/100/500 each session. I don't want one bad apple to ruin the bunch, but I felt like I got caught with my pants down.
ngmcs8203
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Is there evidence of this happening?
The saying is - First time shame on them, SECOND time shame on you
You might not be able to stop the first time, but the second time you should know better
I'm not sure about solid evidence of it having happened, but there are pictures of members' custom chip designs used as advertising. Not a far step for someone to see it, decide they like it, and get the exact same stuff made. After all, they already have the art, and sure aren't afraid of repercussions from individuals like you and me.
Tonystark137
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So was the bank light vs chips at the end of the night?
ngmcs8203
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Ah gotcha. That sucks that they’d advertise them.
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