Clay versus ceramic (2 Viewers)

I’ve been working in table games for over 25 years. I prefer the feel of clay. With that being said, I don’t have the budget for a quality casino grade set. By the time you get a cash set and a tournament set together, you could be into it $3000-$5000.

I found that a quality ceramic set will suit my needs in the mean time. I purchased 1700 of the Nevada Jack chips from BR Poker. My guests seem to like them a lot. I haven’t found any spinners with the BR ceramics. I have ordered cheaper ceramic samples and found them to be very inconsistent.

Bottom line, if you can afford clay, do it. If you go ceramics, buy a quality set and skip the cheap sets. Get samples. Many many samples.

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prefer Ceramic because they're cheaper, but are not bad in a way. you decide which you like more :D
 
I’ve owned clay, ceramic and China clays(basically recycled plastic lol?)

I prefer the look, feel and sound of clay. The China clays are certainly a great value if you’re looking at the Royals, Majestics etc.

The one thing I do love about my ceramic set from Br Pro is the zero maintenance factor. No oiling required and less delicate in dryer air conditions. My knock on ceramics is the sound.

Just my 2 cents
 
Majestic’s aren’t clay!
What are they? I thought they were China clay, which meant they were made the same as compression clay just in China. Curious as to why they have that dust and need oiled if they are not clay.
 
What are they? I thought they were China clay, which meant they were made the same as compression clay just in China. Curious as to why they have that dust and need oiled if they are not clay.
They are injection-molded plastic with additional materials added to make them feel more like clay.
 
where do i buy the

please help me, how can i buy these chips <3. it took me and my friend four hours to find this thread after seeing these chips for five seconds on some random youtube short.
I recommend making a new thread, maybe someone will know.
 
I think there's room in this world for both clay and ceramic (and plastic). I have an acquaintance who has a small $40 buy in nickel/dime blind game that is looking for a custom set (he currently has one of the horrible, and I mean horrible, slugged sets) and I recommended Tina or BR Pro to him unreservedly. Given his budget, stakes, and frankly how much he cares about chips, recommending clay would be stupid and/or irresponsible.
 
My friends love my chip collection which encompasses clay, ceramic, and plastic, but only one of the 20 or so guys who play poker at my house owns anything other than China Clay or sluggo chips. I choose to own nice chips and do not judge them.
 
I know I am 5 years late to the question, but I'd like to offer an answer from a more objective point of view, since I think the question will remain relevant as long as these 2 kinds exists. (Perhaps the author of the question doesn't even care about this matter anymore, but like me, there's new people joining every day so my answer is mostly aimed to them.)

The question was "Clay VS Ceramic: What makes one which better than the other?"

I want to, very respectfully, point out that most of the answers here actually answer a different question: "Which one do you like best?"

Don't take me wrong: I do think those answers are valuable and offer much perspective; from a very subjective point of view.

I've also seen some objective answers here, so I'm not even being original. (Just trying to be more comprehensive.)

I, too, think (as it was also stated here before) there's room in our world for both; but I'll go further and point out that one thing can objectively be better and yet, there will still be people who'll reject it, simply because they just like more the other one.

By leaving subjective parameters aside, we could get an objective answer:

Cost efficiency: Ceramics are better.
Ceramics are less expensive. The higher the quality, the more the gap widens. In general, to get Clays at a similar price as Ceramics, some quality will be lost.

Weight: Clays are beter.
Chip weights preference is subjective, but how much a chip can weight is not:
Currently, (I'd love to be wrong) the only way to control weight for Ceramics, is changing their size (or volume, like its thickness, for instance).
Clays can be slugged or not, have different ratios for its composite formula components, or even be weighted with brass flakes.
So Clay chips can have, at the same size, a wider range of weights.

Fragility: Ceramics are better.
I've seen Clays being snapped (way more difficult if metal slugged, true); some can be easily broken just by hand, while others will require a hammer blow.
But you'll need to do something like putting ceramic chips in a blender to be able to make a dent or two (before they break the blender).

Sound: Clays are better.
How a chip sounds is completely subjetive, but how it can sound is not:
Ceramics of the same size, pretty much sound the same.
Clays simply have a wider range of sound to them, to choose from.

Design flexibility: Ceramics are better.
Yes, designs are inherently subjective, but there's a way to evaluate this objectively…
Nowadays (especially if you request them to be aligned) you can make a ceramic chip look like a clay chip. You can't make a Clay chip look like the elaborate designs a ceramic chip can have.
The flexibility ceramics offer, to pretty much portray any design imaginable, objectively surpasses that of Clays.

Debossing: Clays are better.
Maybe I'm just missing something, but it seems to me Ceramics are just always flat; while Clays, rarely.
Clays can have, not just patterns, but even words debossed on them.
(Ceramics can have writing too, as part of their design flexibility. You can have printed text, even on the edges, yes, but I have never seen debossed text on them.)

Smell: Ceramics are better.
Yes, some chip smell, and if it does, you can bet it's not a ceramic chip. If the smell was good at least some times, this would be a subjective matter. But it's always bad (and maybe even toxic) which makes it binary: No smell is better.

Stackability: Ceramics are better.
Of course someone can say: "I don't like flat chips", but it's a simple objective truth that flatter chips stack better. The best Clays are flatter, yes, but even then not as flat as Ceramics.

Durability: Ceramics are better.
I've seen reports of Clays falling apart, crumbling (after many years, yes). Maybe something similar can happen to Ceramics, but I haven't seen it.
(I've read that ceramics' designs can fade, but it's supposed to happen only with heavy casino use.)

Spinners: Ceramics are better.
I've read people listing Spinners as being more common among Ceramics. I don't see how (but I am open to changing my mind).
As I understand it, spinners are a result of imperfections on the chips surface, some protuberance. Ceramics are very flat and the injection point is always (nowadays at least) on the side. I just don't see how could there be more spinners among Ceramics than in Clays.


Maybe I've left out enough (objective) parameters, where Clays are better, to conclude they are the better option. If that's the case, it was not intentional and I would gladly amend my list. As it stands, it is obvious to me that Clays are, objectively, better.

But!

What about subjective parameters?

Timbre, tactility, collecting value (like Paulsons, for example), nostalgia; to name a few, might even be more important for some, and I think that's just fine.

I am not trying to say that everybody should prefer Ceramics. I just think there are chip aspects that can be evaluated independently of personal preferences.

(I am still undecided myself, and also still awaiting for some more samples to arrive.)
 
As it stands, it is obvious to me that Clays are, objectively, better.
I am sorry, I made a mistake there. (It seems it is not possible to edit or delete that post.)

It should say:


As it stands, it is obvious to me that Ceramics are, objectively, better.


(There are more parameters, where Ceramics are better.)

I apologize: Writing that post took longer than expected and by the end, I was sleepy. :(
 
Maine difference is the price and level of respect you command in community....
 
(I am still undecided myself, and also still awaiting for some more samples to arrive.)
I've just finally taken the time to check out the last samples to arrive. Among those, is the sample set for Apache's The Bank. I didn't think I would like them as much as I do now. Pictures simply don't do them justice.

They do smell, as others have commented, but in my case, I need to bring them very close to notice. It's not a nice smell but I don't find it offensive really.
Everything else about them is just so much better than I expected. These are indeed high quality chips.

I thought I was going to end very much inclined towards ceramic chips, but right now I find myself liking them both very much.

My final assessment won't help anybody on the matter: I now know I'll eventually have a set of ceramic chips as well as one set of The Bank.
 

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