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Controversial Chip & Poker Opinions (21 Viewers)
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extreme517
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I don't have the patience to read through this whole thread, but here's something I see way too often:
1) People listing for sale murdered Paulsons as mint and asking top dollar
1) People listing for sale murdered Paulsons as mint and asking top dollar
This could turn into a thread of its own
Sometimes it can save you money if that's the goal before you buy, but generally, yeah, that's kinda wacky.
And it should!
extreme517
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LOL...I just saw a post where someone has 2 racks of the same chip...asking more for the murdered rack than the unadulterated rack. LIke they put in work?!?
(For the record, I am great with anyone doing whatever they want to do with chips that they purchase. Just please don't think you added value by messing with them.)
(For the record, I am great with anyone doing whatever they want to do with chips that they purchase. Just please don't think you added value by messing with them.)
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RichMahogany
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I’m torn on this.
I don’t disagree necessarily because if you’ve ever had to murder chips on your own, you’d understand.
It’s a pain in the fucking ass for anything other than CPCs, especially linen inlay chips
CallingStation614
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I saw those light purple 8vs as well lol.
It's like removing the paint of the hood of a car with sandpaper, and then proceed to ask more than the list price on a marketplace...
1.a) They did put in work (a lot)
1.b) They paid someone to do it for them (not cheap either, also extra shipping to/from the murderer)
2. For someone who is planning on relabeling chips of that type, this IS, in fact, added value.
Murdered chips always go for less than market. Love to see any outliers. Maybe the NCV tigers would be the only ones.
Even tho it’s a huge value to someone who is already going to relabel.
Even tho it’s a huge value to someone who is already going to relabel.
ekricket
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Or customizing your chips by adding an extra edgespot with a marker then charging for all the work
My favorite spot design is the bear claw however not the side angle shot. Just the face shot. Kinda don’t like small edges on the side.
That's literally my entire role as a vendor here.... And I'm busy....
extreme517
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Josh, I get that and am cool with it. It would be like ordering a custom guitar...hugely valuable to the original person that commissions the work, but loses a lot of resale value to others. The cost to the original buyer is generally not recoupable if resold. If I have a custom instrument made I better be pretty well married to it unless I like hemorrhaging thousands of dollars upon resale (which I see people do).
This doesn’t quite flow for me.
Some chips are hard to remove inlays on for this reason or because lack of interest or time, some people pay to have inlays removed.
Some chips are used predominantly as relabel candidates. A large % of snappers from previous TCR sales get turned into fracs. There are tens of thousands of NAGB chips and many many many have been relabeled, bought and sold, labeled again, etc.
Now put 2 and 2 together.
A) there are X% of all chips that are chips that primarily have value as relabel candidates + B) some Y% of people pay to have chips murdered = any given chip has an XY% chance of being worth more once murdered
Is it worth more to you? Idk, but is it worth more to someone? Maybe.
Like the card club RHCs @ReallyGoodUsername sold. These were awful to murder and I think that’s what most people intended to do with them. If you would pay someone $1/chip to do it for you, why wouldn’t you pay $1/chip more if it’s already done?
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extreme517
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And now there are less and less original, top condition of a given chip over time that are still worth whatever they cost new. Everything that is murdered or played in starts dropping toward utility value of maybe 50% of new price as they get further away from true new/mint/unmolested condition. In my opinion of course...and I am great with people buying/selling for any amounts the two parties agree on.
It all depends on who the buyers are. If you're interested in non-murdered chips, then the murdered ones won't be something for you. But they sure as hell will be for someone else who had similar plans for them.
I really don't see the problem.
You are thinking too black and white.
Take a rack of canary THCs with a generic hot stamp of Initials. A good mill job would 100% add value to those chips.
It's a free market, and some custom choices can add value. I would argue @JeepologyOffroad Macon's I redid for him hold more value now than before, as they were pretty trashed. It's all dependant on what the buyer is looking for at that time.
I've had offers on my Pete's set that are more than what I spent, and that's about as custom as you can get.
I would pay more for a NAGB rack that Gear removed the inlay than stock if I needed NAGB chips for a project.
It all depends on what is wanted, and how the current chip market is at the time.
This is a fiction I’ve been trying to fight. Playing chips actually has very little effect on their market value. Sure if you played them from mint to a casino worn / good / barely stand on edge condition, yeah that would drop their value 50%. But that’s practically never happening.
1000%
That depends on the buyer, of course. And even with the explosion of popularity of this sort of thing, I’d still argue that the percentage of chip buyers who are interested in that kind of project is still low-ish. So it’s an interesting question - if you’ve added value for 25% of the market, but stripped value for 75% of the market, have you added value? Maybe?
Yes, because you know Gear’s work. How would you feel about buying chips if the inlays had been removed by Joe Shit Thenewguy? Because we see a lot of those kinds of posts in the classifieds- people who don’t know what the hell they’re doing, who then give up.
From the amount of PMs I get weekly asking if I have a rack of canary/arc/RR/blurple/pink/horizon blue milled for sale and throwing out offers, I don't doubt my position at all.
Let me know if we get a crazy offer for those 98 canaries.
Kidding.
But I only “need” 2 barrels
the ones I just attacked look like I used a toenail clipper, but the work means they're worth the hours I put in.
Already got a PM and sent them your way. Lol
Haha yeah got it. Thx.
extreme517
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That Pete's set is amazing! Functional art.
Well, then.... enough said, I guess.
Sorry, couldn't help myself -- if y'all are gonna tee it up, don't be surprised when somebody takes a swing.
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