Cpc atlantic club - unimpressed (2 Viewers)

[xemulshionphilx]

@xemulshionphilx also understand that your talking to the poker chip 1%ers those web mold chips you like would represent the best chips any non chipper would ever play with or see for sure besides possibly casino chips that they have used at the casino.

Precisely this they are fit for purpose the dont break the bank, they bring flavour and personality to the game that would. They meet my needs and again as you pointed out all the other players would see these as the best of the best as im the only host.

 

[tabletalker7]

Yeah for sure alot of people seem to forget being in the uk its so hard to get anything of any quality above dice chips from an imports point of view tina is the most cost effective route for my needs and circumstance

Import fees going to the UK? Hum ....... Have you looked at the offerings over at https://www.apollonchips.com/ ? I always recommend our European friends check out Sun-Fly

 

[xemulshionphilx]

Import fees going to the UK? Hum ....... Have you looked at the offerings over at https://www.apollonchips.com/ ? I always recommend our European friends check out Sun-Fly

Yeah saw these im not a fan of them appearance wise i really like the tinas can cheaply mimic the classic edge spot designs at frac of the cost

 

[TomC727]

I wouldn't judge the entire CPC lineup based on a few samples. My CPC sets are absolutely stunning. The imperfections are what make them that much better.

If you really want to get a feel of them, buy a set of Rounders, Chesterfields, or Atlantic Club chips. Clean the dust off of them and oil them, and then see how you really feel about them.

CPC doesn't have hype to them, and they are definitely not overrated. All the various styles of chips, from ceramics, to Tina's, to CPC's have their place. It isn't economical to create a 5000 chip CPC tournament set, that you may use once a year, but a custom 500 chip set for a regular cash game may be a solid investment.

 

[merkong]

I’m all about CPC. HHR’s are my kryptonite.

 

[Darthhoodie]

I’m all about CPC. HHR’s are my kryptonite.

HHR feel great as well as the B mold, something about those two feel more substantial than some others. So many good molds.

 

[FearlessFred]

I felt the exact same when I received the very same samples that I sold on to you. Maybe they're seconds or something but if I'd spent far too much on a set and got something comparable to those samples I'd be devastated.

I am personally completely sold on web molds for my purposes but also like the look of no mold for certain applications

 

[BPTDirector]

+1 for CSQ and H molds.

 

[Darthhoodie]

HHR feel great as well as the B mold, something about those two feel more substantial than some others.

 

[Budha]

I felt the exact same when I received the very same samples that I sold on to you. Maybe they're seconds or something but if I'd spent far too much on a set and got something comparable to those samples I'd be devastated.

I am personally completely sold on web molds for my purposes but also like the look of no mold for certain applications

I had a similar experience with CPC samples, I wasn’t impressed.

I then ordered some Key West’s (CPC H-Mold) and it was nite and day. The Key West’s are weighted with the brass flakes, and I love the H-Mold personally.

Very different feel than the rounders samples in almost every way. I can’t say for sure, but the samples may not represent CPC’s best TBH. (Factory 2nds, rejects, etc).

 

[Timmah]

Also, I think it’s fair to say that some of the samples are B stock. I have both the Rounders samples and Atlantic hot stamp samples. Some of the hot stamps aren’t that sharp and look to be dull. However, I have many sample sets purchased on here from people who purchased large orders. They’re all fantastic!

 

[PlaidDragon]

I see people rave about the CPCs and recommend them highly from the samples ive received i would be so unimpressed if i bought a full set from CPC and they turned out to be like these samples.

The edgespots have random bits of colour that look out of place and look to have been molded in to it

each label is so off centre.

The edgespots dont reach the same points in the middle

Some edgespots are missing bits of colour

Yet looking at these tinas and pharohs in comparison they all look uniform and much more appealing

So i guess my question is. Why the hype for CPC?

CPCs manufacturing process is a lot more manual than that of plastic chips, thus there will be slightly more variance in production quality in comparison. This is just something that one must accept when ordering any set from CPC.

I think the variances in spots/colors/inlay position actually CONTRIBUTE positively to chip appearance rather than detract from it. A more handcrafted and nuanced look is something one generally does not get from mass-produced plastic. These variances are "features".... not defects.

I have three separate sets of custom CPCs constituting over 3700 chips. Of this total I can accurately say that no greater than 1% qualify as true defects. I'm even planning on a monster 4th set from them in the next year or so.

So, yes; if you want consistent and uniformed chips, mass-produced plastics/ceramics are probably for you. They WILL facilitate your home games very well. However, if you want brand new, casino-grade compression clay chips, CPC is the only manufacturer for the home market.

Spend some time searching here on PCF for the plethora of pics of peoples CPC sets. About every one of them is utterly pleasing to the eye... even their stock-designed chips as well.

 

[tabletalker7]

I am truly impressed by the people here. This guy says specifically that he does not like something, and all you guys can do is tell him exactly how wrong he is. Way to make people feel welcome. Good job PCF.

 

[Eriks]

I am truly impressed by the people here. This guy says specifically that he does not like something, and all you guys can do is tell him exactly how wrong he is. Way to make people feel welcome. Good job PCF.

That’s rather snowflakey of you. Since when is it a crime to disagree with an opinion (and a quite uninformed one at that) and offer another? I also don’t see any disrespectful responses itt.

Maybe clay chips aren’t for him and I don’t care if he buys a set of ceramics and lives happily ever. Good for him and his wallet if so. But basing that opinion solely off of a crappy sample set of A-molds doesn’t really make for a fair assessment of CPC chips. He might feel different about, say a set of CSQ Rounders.

I mean, countless of pcfers who are now full blown clay addicts, first came here looking for that ”500 pc chip set on a $200 budget”.

 

[Darthhoodie]

I am truly impressed by the people here. This guy says specifically that he does not like something, and all you guys can do is tell him exactly how wrong he is. Way to make people feel welcome. Good job PCF.

You seem to be mistaken, the OP literally asked a community of chip enthusiasts to explain to him why the hype around CPC chips. Re-read the OP

So i guess my question is. Why the hype for CPC?

Also,

This is good news for you, if you like the tina chips better than cpc you will be saving thousands of $$$. I wouldn't recommend browsing through the chip database, there are many sets of cpc chips there that may change your mind. I like the web mold chips for what they are and have purchased a few sets, but they are not in the same category as a custom set of cpc chips. What I mean by that is feel, sound, looks, and also how they will wear down over time. The web molds are new so we don't really know how they will wear, but we know cpcs will last a lifetime. The other thing that makes a big difference is the cpc mold. Some molds feel, look, and sound much better to me than others. For example, I don't love the feel of the A mold. It all comes down to your taste and budget, the cpcs are a hand made, heirloom quality item than has a cost associated with them that reflects that. The tina chips are an excellent inexpensive mass produced chip that comes in at a price point that allows anyone to have a nice set of custom chips. Although I wouldn't mention tina chips in the same breath as cpc chips, the web mold chips are magnitudes better than dice chips or any of the older gen China clay chips. Good luck, and have fun!

Makes sense, at one point I had a set of 5k dice chips for a giant charity event I ran. I would imagine that unless you run a high stakes private game with a real need for security or you’re “one of us” spending 2k+ on a set of chips would seem crazy.

I honestly like having sets of different types, from plastic to Paulson and everything in between. Not saying I use them all but I definitely will horde them all. I enjoy the differences in feel and sound. Like Timmah said find your zen, mine is collecting as many chips of all types that I can get my hands on, and I don’t think I’m alone on this, especially around here.

This and that the longer you fool around with chips the more likely it is your taste will change and evolve. There was a point in my chipping life when I didn’t like ceramic chips and I hated rhc chips, now I have multiple sets of both and love them for what they are.

also understand that your talking to the poker chip 1%ers those web mold chips you like would represent the best chips any non chipper would ever play with or see for sure besides possibly casino chips that they have used at the casino.

Show me where I have either a) given bad advice, or b) told the OP he was wrong, or c) not made the OP feel welcome

The OP asked a question as to why we love CPC so much and we have spoken, not sure what you issue is with this. The OP asked to be educated on the subject of CPC hype, it was solicited advice, now you may not fully agree with some members options on the subject or they way they express themselves but this is an internet forum, and we have all seen much worse behavior. I feel that the majority of responses were welcoming and positive as well as informative. It's well established that CPC sends out junk samples, most people around here know that, I think its dumb but that's how they do it. Most posts say just that, to not judge the product based on those samples because they are known to be junk reject chips. Not really looking for an internet battel here just felt the need to defend PCF on this one.

 

[mattross1313]

came here looking for that ”500 pc chip set on a $200 budget”.

 

[PlaidDragon]

I am truly impressed by the people here. This guy says specifically that he does not like something, and all you guys can do is tell him exactly how wrong he is. Way to make people feel welcome. Good job PCF.

"So, yes; if you want consistent and uniform chips, mass-produced plastics/ceramics are probably for you. They WILL facilitate your home games very well."

Yup... that quote from my response was telling him he's "wrong".... Oh wait! It did nothing of the sort.

 

[upNdown]

So many good molds.

Exactly! They have at least 8 molds that are better than RHC.

This guy says specifically that he does not like something, and all you guys can do is tell him exactly how wrong he is.

Well, he was wrong.

 

[Coyote]

Do you have contact details of the lady?

 

[Darthhoodie]

Exactly! They have at least 8 molds that are better than RHC.

I can remember the first time I held an rhc chip, it was way way back years before Paulson cut us off. I thought "yuck" what a stupid mold, giant glossy inlay skinny outer rim with top hat so close to the edge you know they will chip. You couldn't really feel the clay part, I hated the mold. It probably was the Horseshoe Cleveland chips that altered my thinking a little. Now that mold is the predominant mold being produced by Paulson and I seem to tolerate it more than I ever have. But you are correct there are more than a few CPC molds better than RHC.

 

[Darson]

Would you rather have a hand knotted Afghan rug or a machine made rug? Would you rather have a hand built supercar or a Toyota Camry? Would you rather have a bespoke tailored suit or an off the rack one?

At the end of the day both categories exist to appease to different parts of the market and functionally both do the same thing. One for a much lower price - which I’m sure has the largest influence on your opinion than anything else. As it does for most of us when car shopping…

CPCs are the only way you can get custom hand made chips, don’t expect machine made perfection - expect passion, character and uniqueness. For me, well worth the price of admission.

 

[Coyote]

Would you rather have a hand knotted Afghan rug or a machine made rug? Would you rather have a hand built supercar or a Toyota Camry? Would you rather have a bespoke tailored suit or an off the rack one?

At the end of the day both categories exist to appease to different parts of the market and functionally both do the same thing. One for a much lower price - which I’m sure has the largest influence on your opinion than anything else. As it does for most of us when car shopping…

CPCs are the only way you can get custom hand made chips, don’t expect machine made perfection - expect passion, character and uniqueness. For me, well worth the price of admission.

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By the way, I do have an Afghan rug, purchased during my life's most dangerous trip to Kabul and Mazar-e-sharif.
What chips would you give me in exchange?

 

[upNdown]

Oh maybe he’s not wrong!

Would you rather have a hand knotted Afghan rug

No, actually I wouldn’t. Because a rug is made to be walked on - I don’t need artistic value there and the craftsmanship probably makes no difference for wear and tear on a rug. So if this guy is only interested in chips he can toss in a pot, then maybe he’s not wrong.

 

[Coyote]

Oh maybe he’s not wrong!



No, actually I wouldn’t. Because a rug is made to be walked on - I don’t need artistic value there and the craftsmanship probably makes no difference for wear and tear on a rug. So if this guy is only interested in chips he can toss in a pot, then maybe he’s not wrong.

Artistic value is ideally desired everywhere, from clothes to shoes to rugs to cars to tables and chairs, to curtains and ashtrays, etc, and to poker chips.
Few people can afford aesthetic value everywhere and have to make hard choices, opting for just utilitarian items in most cases.

 

[Taghkanic]

Would you rather have a hand knotted Afghan rug or a machine made rug?

An Afghan rug made of natural materials, not one made of plastics and formaldehyde… An Afghan rug which can last 100+ years. And still retain value. Unlike machine-made ones which hit a landfill within a decade.

 

[Taghkanic]

Anyway:

To me, the odd thing about this whole discussion is that new chips like Tinas *are striving to simulate* CPCs, ASMs, Paulsons and other classic clay chips, only at a lower cost.

Those who have spearheaded this (very interesting and promising) development seem to have been designing and assessing them based on how closely they can be made to resemble, sound and feel like OG clays… But those models for the Tinas are now being described by some as unimpressive.

It’s kind of like saying “I prefer the knockoff Rolex I bought off a folding table from a vendor in the subway to a real Rolex… Not because the fake is cheaper—because it’s better!”

 

[Darson]

Oh maybe he’s not wrong!



No, actually I wouldn’t. Because a rug is made to be walked on - I don’t need artistic value there and the craftsmanship probably makes no difference for wear and tear on a rug. So if this guy is only interested in chips he can toss in a pot, then maybe he’s not wrong.

I guess I shouldn’t let people in our living room then…

 

[BPTDirector]

as soon as you realize it does not matter which side you choose to anyone but you it makes it much easier to make your decision. My players appreciate my Tina ceramics just as much as my two CPC sets , my BCC set, or my Paulson set. Do I love the high end chips more, a little, but I also love the cheaper ceramics because they enabled me to go fully custom without breaking the bank now that I am retired. They are all in my rotation and all get oohs and aahs when they are being played. Chipping is fun!

 

[PlaidDragon]

I guess I shouldn’t let people in our living room then…

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Looks like that room needs to be condemned.

 

[xemulshionphilx]

Wow guys somone get the valium on tap.

Firstly i wouldnt say anyones really been un welcoming to me hear i asked a question and got the answers i was looking for. I may have been under the wrong impression about what i was expecting with the samples however i do find it really stupid theyd send out seconds and lesser quality samples just seems like they arnt putting thier best foot forward when trying to make sales idk thats just my thoughts on it. Funnily enough non of this has changed my mind still going to buy tinas as again they meet my needs at a reasonable price plus the more money i save than going cpc route means more money i can punt away using my cheap ceramics at my home game