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CPC diameter check for racks (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter drdr
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It was RivieraDanny
...bit this is not the way to solve the problem.
Use the covered racks. Fits 39-43mm without a problem.
I seen a thread a while back where a guy sharpened up the edges of some pretty worn out chips. The look was drastically improved and he only took off a very miniscule amount. I don't remember how he did it tho.
I'd be tempted to do that if I was you, especially if they are on the high end diameter of all cpcs anyways.
I'd be tempted to do that if I was you, especially if they are on the high end diameter of all cpcs anyways.
I think I’d keep my CPCs in boxes before I start re-grinding their diameters to fit an ill-fitting rack.
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Vendors are all overseas. Shipping costs are a nightmare.
Almost did that. But the shipping was more than the racks. Still an option. But I'd love to know the diameter of your chips in comparison to mine.
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This is my kind of thread mate!
I'm going through different racks at the moment, each have their issues, so I've decided to get @alecnetwoodworks to make me some custom ones. I don't know for certain, but I suspect they'll be made using a 40mm channel, I believe thats what the racks I have for the Paulsons are, even though the chips themselves are 39mm, I might be wrong...
I found the racks that Tony sells to be much better in terms of chip diameter, they sit properly in the channel, but they require 1mm spacers as the racks are 68.5mm. The cheap chinese racks I have fit better in terms of barrel height, at 68mm but the chips don't sit properly in the channel. I was advised against Justin racks, by Justin (fair play) as there's known to be mixed results with CPCs.
Just got my calipers out to see what I'm dealing with...interestingly (to us nerds) the hundos are the smallest in terms of diameter but also the tallest in terms of stack size. They come in at 67.5mm whereas the rest are all 67.2mm, although I did a lot of sorting to pull out the "fat" chips when I got them.
FFS, just realised my calipers only go to 1 decimal place, now I need to buy new ones!
I'm going through different racks at the moment, each have their issues, so I've decided to get @alecnetwoodworks to make me some custom ones. I don't know for certain, but I suspect they'll be made using a 40mm channel, I believe thats what the racks I have for the Paulsons are, even though the chips themselves are 39mm, I might be wrong...
I found the racks that Tony sells to be much better in terms of chip diameter, they sit properly in the channel, but they require 1mm spacers as the racks are 68.5mm. The cheap chinese racks I have fit better in terms of barrel height, at 68mm but the chips don't sit properly in the channel. I was advised against Justin racks, by Justin (fair play) as there's known to be mixed results with CPCs.
Just got my calipers out to see what I'm dealing with...interestingly (to us nerds) the hundos are the smallest in terms of diameter but also the tallest in terms of stack size. They come in at 67.5mm whereas the rest are all 67.2mm, although I did a lot of sorting to pull out the "fat" chips when I got them.
FFS, just realised my calipers only go to 1 decimal place, now I need to buy new ones!
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drdr
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Much appreciate for checking diameter. Everyone's CPCs seem to be smaller than mine. Never thought I'd ever have reverse size envy.
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Am starting to wonder, actually. But I have had a glass of wine.
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Oh. My. Gord.
My old set of sluggos are actually 40 mm in diameter, almost exactly. My oversized CPCs fit those racks perfectly, depth and length. What are these mythical racks? Where might I find more of them? Any ultra rack nerds see these and just know what they are?
Sluggo set was purchased in 2005. Absolutely no markings or manufacturer logos on them. That help? Must I trawl online looking to buy multiples of this old set just for the racks? WTF would I do with all those sluggos?
My old set of sluggos are actually 40 mm in diameter, almost exactly. My oversized CPCs fit those racks perfectly, depth and length. What are these mythical racks? Where might I find more of them? Any ultra rack nerds see these and just know what they are?
Sluggo set was purchased in 2005. Absolutely no markings or manufacturer logos on them. That help? Must I trawl online looking to buy multiples of this old set just for the racks? WTF would I do with all those sluggos?
ThinkingFold
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I had bought this bird cage off of Amazon years ago and found the racks that came with it fit my Rounders best. So maybe Brybelly racks fit CPC best?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FI7MO04/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
Skeet shooting maybe?
*Also, great movie if you know where this gif is from.
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I could order just one. Probably have to pay $50 in shipping for a rack. But if it fits...
For reference, when I make racks, the 39mm racks are made with a 1.625in core box bit. This works out to ~41.2mm diameter. I've tried to source a 40mm bit, and found one once on AliExpress, but it never arrived after ordering it.
43mm racks are made with a 1.75in bit (~44.5mm). So until I get a CNC machine this is the best I can do with the tooling available to me. If someone outside of the US can find a source selling 40mm core box bit with a 1/2in shaft, that would be awesome.
Depending on the bit you may be able to have a machine shop chuck it up in a lathe and take 1mm off the diameter.
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What diameter are your CPCs?
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I'm serious guys!
Someone must know what these racks are.
Appear to be made specifically for 40 mm chips.
LeLe
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These look like they can be found on China Taobao site, those rack without the Made in China sign on the bottom
They are made mostly for metal slugged chips where some Version of chips are in 40mm rather than the norm 39mm
The link is in Chinese thou
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Interadasting! My wife is native Chinese, maybe will help with that website. I'm sure she'll be thrilled to cooperate with ordering chip racks (hmm).
ArielVer18
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I no longer have a rack of A-mold to test and confirm, but I remember reading somewhere Bud Jones racks fit A-mold and B-mold better than 67.7 racks.
Not so fast…
You’ll notice they show and measure different molds. Each mold varies in size, both diameter and thickness, because they use different cups.
The cups for each mold are created from a different master. (My terminology is wrong here, David has a post explaining this somewhere, BGinGA has also written something if I recall correctly). Then there are multiple cups for each mold made from the same master. Based on how each cup and master are made, you’ll naturally get some variation that extends first between the molds and then again to lesser degree within each mold.
I don’t recall the specifics, other than the crowns being the smallest. I think scroll was the biggest and A-mold was one of the bigger ones.
If you want to dive down a rabbit hole, there’s a whole thread on the best CPC racks including my post showing the up-close fit issues I was having with my B molds.
That's what I tried to explain earlier. "Mine CPC is bigger than yours" doesn't make any sense, it's the particular mold used that's important.
Here, SCrown in front, A-mold in the middle, FDL last.
Here, SCrown in front, A-mold in the middle, FDL last.
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Oh I know that thread well and I do recall your posts also.
Maybe I haven't articulated well in the thread. But I do understand the variance in chip dimensions amongst CPC molds. I learnt the hard way, accepting the consensus that KeyWest racks would suit, buying 20 of them, and finding they are two small. There is no point returning them for a refund since shipping is equal to the purchase price. This is why when someone tells me a certain rack is good for their CPCs I then ask what diameter their chips are.
Many kind posters have recommended racks but most recommendations don't specify chip diameter that fit in the racks. So far any diameter given to me is smaller than my chips. Thus I can not verify that my larger chips would fit/sit in their recommended rack.
From all my PCF forum searching I have yet to find any rack that is recommended for CPCs of around 39.5 to 39.65 mm, the size of my chips. Hence my frustration.
My post above regarding mystery racks for my 40 mm sluggos set is the closest option so far. But sourcing them seems difficult.
drdr
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Im trying to focus on diameter rather than mold, since I can't be certain there is no variance within each mold. CPCs are grinded after they are pressed, it is possible they get grinded differently by operator (I'm guessing).
If you told me you have SCrowns with a diameter of 39.55 and they fit in "RackX", then I'm going to try "RackX" for my A-crest with diameter of 39.55. Of course I will be considering barrel height too.
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You have A-molds, just focus on those (and/or FDLs which are fo similar diameter, potenitally a tad wider).
As for racks, there are SO many different manufacturers (especially in China) and, unless you buy from a respectable seller who knows what they're doing, like Apache or Spinetti, you can't really be sure what you'll be getting. Or Key West (@dennis63), if I remember correctly he too sells racks. It will be expensive, but youknow what you're getting and you avoid potential multiple orders because things you've received aren't good enough.
Point is - SCrowns are way narrower than A-molds. Don't ask why, they just are. Some molds are larger than others, and A-mold is one of them. If you ask someone "Do your CPCs fit RackX?" and they say yes without saying which mold it is or what diameter their chips have, you might have a problem.
You have A-molds, just focus on those (and/or FDLs which are fo similar diameter, potenitally a tad wider).
As for racks, there are SO many different manufacturers (especially in China) and, unless you buy from a respectable seller who knows what they're doing, like Apache or Spinetti, you can't really be sure what you'll be getting. Or Key West (@dennis63), if I remember correctly he too sells racks. It will be expensive, but youknow what you're getting and you avoid potential multiple orders because things you've received aren't good enough.
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Yup. Is why I have been asking diameters after each rack recommendation from CPC owners.
I started the thread after buying KeyWest racks and finding my chips don't fit, since my chips are larger diameter for CPCs. Good racks, great vendor, just don't suit my chips.
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Local Australian vendor claims to have racks for 39-40 mm chips that definitely fit my CPC diameter and barrel height. Sending a free sample rack to me to try out.
We'll see...
Edit, fixed typo that said 34-40 mm.
We'll see...
Edit, fixed typo that said 34-40 mm.
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Curious. 34-40mm is a wide range
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Original 34-40 was a typo. I updated it to 39-40.
Am curious too how they are. I'm hoping they originate from China where many chips made are 40mm.
Am curious too how they are. I'm hoping they originate from China where many chips made are 40mm.
drdr
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Four months later looks like the local vendor never bothered to send the sample rack. Did send a reminder email, even offered to pay postage, but got no response.
Keep in mind that the finished diameter of a CPC chip is not only related to the specific mold, but also dependent upon the post-compression manual grinding process.
Not all A-molds (or any mold) are the same diameter, or even in the same diameter range. They will typically be closer for a given batch or run of chips, but performing the grinding step on different days or by different operators (or varying degrees of attentiveness or hangover) can create significantly different results (and diameters), even within the same set.
Not all A-molds (or any mold) are the same diameter, or even in the same diameter range. They will typically be closer for a given batch or run of chips, but performing the grinding step on different days or by different operators (or varying degrees of attentiveness or hangover) can create significantly different results (and diameters), even within the same set.
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Absolutely. That's why I had been asking for chip diameter when helpful people provided the racks they use. No diameters provided were as large.
40 mm racks would be great, but difficult to find in the right barrel length. But looks like the new Justin racks in development for CPCs are a good option, since they are 40 mm also.
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